7 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:

The Bidens should be thoroughly investigated.

Fine have at it through proper channels and not under the table with the caveat to find what I want or you won’t get the aid approved by Congress turned over to you!

11 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Giuliani, Graham and Barr all names participants in Trump’s attempts to obtain Ukrainian interference in the upcoming US elections.

 

You can add Nunes in there too.

What does that have to do with the goods on Hunter Biden?

11 hours ago, Puchaiyank said:

Meanwhile, USA infrastructure has become so neglected that in many places it is unsafe to travel over old bridges and many other problems...

 

Mud slinging is apparently in vogue these days...

Do you have any specific examples of old bridges too unsafe to travel on? And if so, who is responsible for the maintenance of the bridges in question?

4 hours ago, Sujo said:

Was never an issue for trump. Do you hold others to a different standard.

 

Plus it was a joke and everyone laughed. Jeez really pushing the truth meter there.

Trump is joking when he calls Warren "Pocahontas". And many people, including myself, think it's funny.

3 hours ago, Paul Henry said:

Guliani should be charge with conspiring with a foreign government. He has no legal authority to represent the USA. Tramp once again is play close to the wind even though he will deny it. Biden was a representative of the USA when he visited Ukraine and was acting on specific orders from the White House. If The Republicans believe Biden did the wrong thing then they should get the US government to investigate not some washed up lawyer. This is the same game that Tramp played with Ukraine just announce an inquiry don't run one. Guliani will throw enough mud that some will stick even if it is totally fabricated.Barr will put out press releases stating perfunctory messages to add some degree of legitimacy to the <deleted> that Tramps personal lawyer will spew.

I'd like to explore your claim about "Biden was a representative of the USA when he visited Ukraine and was acting on specific orders from the White House."

 

Based on your claim, does it make sense that the president himself can act on behalf of the White House?

3 hours ago, cycolista said:

Well there’s this little tidbit from the Washington post. 
 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/secret-service-has-paid-rates-as-high-as-650-a-night-for-rooms-at-trumps-properties/2020/02/06/7f27a7c6-3ec5-11ea-8872-5df698785a4e_story.html

$650? Wow, sounds cheap compared to the $8,400 per night spent on Michelle Obama's suite.

 

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/mar/24/michelles-hotel-8400-night-it-was-deemed-too-price/

 

Honestly sir, what is it I am supposed to be outraged about?

2 hours ago, stevenl said:

Your statement has been debunked a long time ago already, and this has happened many times already.

 

So it can't be ignorance leading to you posting this.

Specifically, what has been debunked?

36 minutes ago, Tug said:

Fine have at it through proper channels and not under the table with the caveat to find what I want or you won’t get the aid approved by Congress turned over to you!

 

a guy called adam schiff has already ruined himself doing what you're doing:

making up imaginary conversations.

7 minutes ago, Crazy Alex said:

Specifically, what has been debunked?

And by whom?

we wanna know.

13 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:

A full investigation of how the Bidens got so rich so quickly from their involvement in Ukraine is long overdue.

How rich how quickly? How much would an ok amount of wealth be, for an ex Vice President of the United States ( in his 70’s), and his well educated lawyer son... in your opinion?

 

Supposedly they have a combined estimated wealth of 12 million.... is that really worth describing as “so rich”

11 minutes ago, jany123 said:

How rich how quickly? How much would an ok amount of wealth be, for an ex Vice President of the United States ( in his 70’s), and his well educated lawyer son... in your opinion?

 

Supposedly they have a combined estimated wealth of 12 million.... is that really worth describing as “so rich”

Well yes, curious people wonder how a man with a history of drug addiction, kicked out of the Navy, gets lucrative jobs amid his father being vice president. And given Biden flat out bragged about extorting Ukraine, rational people will be even more curious as to how a crack addict becomes so wealthy. Would you say a net worth of millions is pretty impressive for a crack addict?

31 minutes ago, Crazy Alex said:

Specifically, what has been debunked?

See one of my previous posts in this thread.

1 hour ago, Thingamabob said:

A full investigation of how the Bidens got so rich so quickly from their involvement in Ukraine is long overdue.

So Joe Biden got rich with Ukraine? Unlike the other crook, he made 20 years of tax returns publjc. Where did you see it?

21 minutes ago, Crazy Alex said:

Well yes, curious people wonder how a man with a history of drug addiction, kicked out of the Navy, gets lucrative jobs amid his father being vice president. And given Biden flat out bragged about extorting Ukraine, rational people will be even more curious as to how a crack addict becomes so wealthy. Would you say a net worth of millions is pretty impressive for a crack addict?

If I were to assume you are on a retainer  to pump the Trump would it be  anything near that which a real associate can be paid  just for the advantage of  profile?

5 minutes ago, Dumbastheycome said:

If I were to assume you are on a retainer  to pump the Trump would it be  anything near that which a real associate can be paid  just for the advantage of  profile?

I will make an effort and ask you to post a substantive rebuttal. Thank you in advance.

39 minutes ago, Crazy Alex said:

Do you have any specific examples of old bridges too unsafe to travel on? And if so, who is responsible for the maintenance of the bridges in question?

Do your own research.

9 minutes ago, Crazy Alex said:

I will make an effort and ask you to post a substantive rebuttal. Thank you in advance.

Go right ahead and present me  with something worthy of a substantive rebuttal which I presume would be based on my question?

 

10 minutes ago, Puchaiyank said:

Do your own research.

 

Fake. This was a new crossover bridge in Florida that failed during construction. 

Crack in one of the supports.

 

Edited February 10, 20206 yr by rabas

1 minute ago, rabas said:

Fake. This was a new crossover bridge in Florida that failed during construction. 

Crack in one of the supports.

 

Crossovers have been known to fail during their transition...

13 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Giuliani, Graham and Barr all names participants in Trump’s attempts to obtain Ukrainian interference in the upcoming US elections.

 

You can add Nunes in there too.

Nonsense 

52 minutes ago, Puchaiyank said:

Do your own research.

OK, I see two photos. One is obviously a brand new bridge. One is another bridge of unknown age and unknown cause of collapse. Do you have any associated facts to present?

What many GOP politicians and voters don't seem to understand is that such an investigation should be independent.

I don't know if Hunter Biden did something illegal. If he did something illegal in the Ukraine then it should be investigated over there. And if he did something illegal within the USA then if should be investigated within the USA.

But should the Attorney General do that? Why?

And even if Hunter Biden is prosecuted and declared guilty does that make is father guilty as well? Is that how the law works in the USA? Son guilty = father guilty? Lock them up? Really?

Maybe the Attorney General should use his time and investigate if POTUS commit crimes. And if he did then prosecute him. Call witnesses who know what's going on. Or is the Attorney General concerned about what he will find?

4 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

What many GOP politicians and voters don't seem to understand is that such an investigation should be independent.

I don't know if Hunter Biden did something illegal. If he did something illegal in the Ukraine then it should be investigated over there. And if he did something illegal within the USA then if should be investigated within the USA.

But should the Attorney General do that? Why?

And even if Hunter Biden is prosecuted and declared guilty does that make is father guilty as well? Is that how the law works in the USA? Son guilty = father guilty? Lock them up? Really?

Maybe the Attorney General should use his time and investigate if POTUS commit crimes. And if he did then prosecute him. Call witnesses who know what's going on. Or is the Attorney General concerned about what he will find?

Well, I think it's safe to say the Democrats have the investigating Trump thing covered- not to mention the failed Mueller witch hunt.

 

I can only speak for myself and say that it appears Joe and Hunter are fairly crooked with their dealings in Ukraine. I'll be happy to let an investigation make its findings. Personally, I think it's entirely possible Hunter worked the scam without daddy involved. But it also appears daddy stepped in when it looked like Hunter was in trouble. A good investigation will get to the truth.

2 minutes ago, Crazy Alex said:

A good investigation will get to the truth.

Then let the investigators do their job and investigate. And if they found enough evidence then prosecute.

Or do you think that is a job for POTUS and his personal lawyer to manage?

2 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Then let the investigators do their job and investigate. And if they found enough evidence then prosecute.

Or do you think that is a job for POTUS and his personal lawyer to manage?

I am fine with letting the Justice Department handle it. That said, who's the boss of the Justice Department? The president, yes?

1 hour ago, Chiphigh said:

Nonsense 

If you want to deny facts, at least put in an effort.

1 hour ago, Crazy Alex said:

OK, I see two photos. One is obviously a brand new bridge. One is another bridge of unknown age and unknown cause of collapse. Do you have any associated facts to present?

 

Pretty sure that's the I35 bridge in my hometown of Minneapolis. A design flaw was the actual cause of the collapse. 

 

However when the interstate system was built most bridges were built to have a lifespan of 50 years. There are certainly a high number of bridges that are in danger. Make no mistake about it the infrastructure in the USA is crumbling. Parts of the East coast have roads that make the highways in Laos look good. 

 

States are having to scurry and raise gas taxes to fund things on their own as the house seems to be pre-occupied with impeachment. Normally I agree with you on many things but every level of infrastructure in the USA is lagging behind. Whether it be roads, 5G, internet, airports. 

 

Anyway getting back to Hunter Biden. I would like simply to hear what a typical day at work was like for him and what his specific duties were. That's all it would take to figure out what he did is about 15 minutes of him detailing his day with a few follow up questions.

 

If anybody has ever scene a Q&A session with Hunter you will know he isn't very sharp. I would love a simple explanation of how he added value to that company and perhaps a brief walk through of the dynamics of how the oil industry in Ukraine works. 

 

I am probably more knowledgable about it than he is. 

 

 

3 hours ago, Dumbastheycome said:

Go right ahead and present me  with something worthy of a substantive rebuttal which I presume would be based on my question?

 

Write a book.

I suspect nothing will come of this other than provide a cloud over Biden's head and damage his nomination process. Once again trump uses government resources to further his personal and political ambitions.

The sooner this sociopath is out of the White House the better, then we are left with the problem of all the idiots that support him, That's a bigger problem because they are not going anywhere any time soon.   

11 hours ago, Crazy Alex said:

Specifically, what has been debunked?

Specifically the post he replied to.