Prosecutors won’t appeal construction tycoon Premchai’s sentence

[Just Weird]

6 hours ago, rosst said:

Everybody on this site is aware of just how crooked the system is. 

Thailand, hang your head in shame. 

Go on, then, explain what has been so "crooked" in this man's (and his cohorts') case after being sentenced to prison without suspension in addition to multi-million baht fines.

 

Rosst, hang your head in shame.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

On 3/13/2020 at 10:00 AM, Grusa said:

A Thai friend explained to me that he will never go to jail: "only his name will go". I never found out quite how that works, but seemingly it is common.

 

I believe I've heard in the past, of some kind of a "hire a person to serve a prison sentence for you" arrangement that has been known to occur here, at least in some cases.

[Reigntax]

4 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

I believe I've heard in the past, of some kind of a "hire a person to serve a prison sentence for you" arrangement that has been known to occur here, at least in some cases.

By they are probably fattening him up now so he at least looks the part. Just need a few more weeks of eating exotic animals and he'll be ready.

[CGW]

9 hours ago, Just Weird said:

Not if they're on bail pending an appeal, they don't and bail isn't only for "the rich".

How many "poor" people are on bail at this time? you seem to be something of an expert, links will suffice.

[CGW]

8 hours ago, Just Weird said:

Your friend was talking nonsense, there are quite a few 'influential' people inside. 

You seem to have appointed yourself as defender of the rich and justice is served, which "influential" people are in jail and how does their sentence compare with others that are poor and have committed similar crimes within the fair for all justice system that you are defending?

[BeltAndRoad]

15 hours ago, rosst said:

Everybody on this site is aware of just how crooked the system is. 

Thailand, hang your head in shame. 

Thailand hang your head in shame? that's a bit much isn't it?  Are you aware that after the Persian/Gulf war in 1990-91, due to sanctions imposed, that roughly half a million children were killed in Iraq.

 

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Edited March 14, 2020 by BeltAndRoad

[Just Weird]

9 hours ago, CGW said:

You seem to have appointed yourself as defender of the rich and justice is served, which "influential" people are in jail and how does their sentence compare with others that are poor and have committed similar crimes within the fair for all justice system that you are defending?

Rational commenting does not translate to "an appointment of defender of the rich"!  If you followed the news every day you'd know that influential people have been convicted and given surprisingly long sentences.  Which poor people in similar cases are you referring to?!

 

Is there anything in my comments on this thread that is untrue or inaccurate?  Point them out and I'll apologise and correct them.  Over to you.

[Just Weird]

9 hours ago, CGW said:

18 hours ago, Just Weird said:

Not if they're on bail pending an appeal, they don't and bail isn't only for "the rich".

How many "poor" people are on bail at this time? you seem to be something of an expert, links will suffice.

No idea, but logically there are probably many of them throughout the country.   Do you think that every person charged with a crime is remanded in custody? You tell me how many "poor people" in similar circumstances have been denied bail?  Links will suffice.

[canopy]

On 3/14/2020 at 4:53 PM, Just Weird said:

That is total nonsense.  All those involved, with one exception who was on a minor charge, were found guilty and sentenced to prison and multi-million baht fines.

The cook at the camp faced 6 charges, many of them quite serious, not "a minor charge" as you put it. Yet the cook received a suspended sentence and because of this has decided not to bother to even appeal. And the multi-million baht fine is collective. Care to guess how much the cook is going to pitch into the collective fund? Not one baht one thinks. Not to worry, we'll just sweep this miscarriage of justice under the rug of a poor person who was in on killing and eating protected wildlife doesn't even get a slap on the wrist. I got an idea, let's switch back to hating Premchai, ignore the other people at the camp, and discuss how the rich get off and the poor don't.

 

[Just Weird]

15 hours ago, canopy said:

The cook at the camp faced 6 charges, many of them quite serious, not "a minor charge" as you put it. Yet the cook received a suspended sentence and because of this has decided not to bother to even appeal. And the multi-million baht fine is collective. Care to guess how much the cook is going to pitch into the collective fund? Not one baht one thinks. Not to worry, we'll just sweep this miscarriage of justice under the rug of a poor person who was in on killing and eating protected wildlife doesn't even get a slap on the wrist. I got an idea, let's switch back to hating Premchai, ignore the other people at the camp, and discuss how the rich get off and the poor don't.

 

You're deluded if you really think that Premchai "got off".  He did get three years, not suspended, and he did get a multi-million baht fine.  So explain which are the "poor" in this case that have taken the rap for the rich Premchai.

[Oxx]

39 minutes ago, Just Weird said:

You're deluded if you really think that Premchai "got off".  He did get three years, not suspended, and he did get a multi-million baht fine.

 

He has, so far, spent a single night behind bars.  He's out now, and most unlikely to go back inside.

 

To him a few million baht fine doesn't even qualify as a gentle slap on the wrist.

 

He most definitely did get off.

[Just Weird]

On 3/16/2020 at 11:42 AM, Oxx said:

On 3/16/2020 at 11:02 AM, Just Weird said:

You're deluded if you really think that Premchai "got off".  He did get three years, not suspended, and he did get a multi-million baht fine.

 

He has, so far, spent a single night behind bars.  He's out now, and most unlikely to go back inside.

 

To him a few million baht fine doesn't even qualify as a gentle slap on the wrist.

 

He most definitely did get off.

Good grief, he's out because he's on bail conducting an appeal!  As he's got a non-suspended, increased, sentence already hanging over him, it's quite likely that he will get locked up.  The size of the fine is limited by statute according to the crime so there's no point in your complaining about that and comparing it to his net worth, that is the same for everyone.

 

So, so far, he has not got off; so far all that's happened is that his original sentence has been increased.

[Oxx]

12 minutes ago, Just Weird said:

So, so far, he has not got off; so far all that's happened is that his original sentence has been increased.

 

You appear to have no understanding of how "justice" works in Thailand.  Rich people don't go to prison (well, unless they <deleted> off someone really powerful).  They typically delay things as much as possible.  (It's now been over 2 years since he slaughtered the cat and he's still not behind bars.)  And then they flee the country.  (If things look really bad, they flee the country first.)

 

 

 

 

[Just Weird]

10 minutes ago, Oxx said:

26 minutes ago, Just Weird said:

So, so far, he has not got off; so far all that's happened is that his original sentence has been increased.

 

You appear to have no understanding of how "justice" works in Thailand.  Rich people don't go to prison (well, unless they <deleted> off someone really powerful).  They typically delay things as much as possible.  (It's now been over 2 years since he slaughtered the cat and he's still not behind bars.)  And then they flee the country.  (If things look really bad, they flee the country first.)

Well, you have no understanding of how justice is going to work in this case (and this is the only one that is being discussed) as the case isn't over until the appeal has finalised.  Maybe you shouldn't be so sure with your pre-judgement! 

 

The final verdict can only be delayed for as long as the Supreme Court takes to make it's decision, there's nothing to delay the implementation of the sentence it after that.

 

Saying that "rich people don't go to prison" is a blinkered, Thaivisa poster reaction that ignores the fact that rich, once-influential people are seeing the wrong side of jail bars right now.