It buggers sensiblilty to make people pay for the test when we are going into a pandemic.  Yet the government here expects people living hand to mouth to cough up 1000 baht. Morons ????

5 minutes ago, Dumbastheycome said:

Why is it that there seems  so much  conviction that the Thai authorities  are  telling lies?

They can only report the numbers of confirmed victims,  ongoing status and any  deaths.

What people seem to want to ignore  is the thousands that have  come under investigation, ongoing or cleared. That  airport arrivals feature  is obviously because they are being screened  like ducks in a row. Expectations that other than those who have the financial capacity  to pay  for a  test unless they  present at a  medical facility in dire need of intervention how would it be possible to screen and test a population at large? Testing is  a "confirmation" of positive  or negative. Useful if positive to attempt to identify others at possible  cross infection.

But the obvious reality is that it is already in the community. Instead of  harping on  about "testing" people  should adopt  best practice and advise others to do also without involving hype and pointless  paranoia.

 

They may not lying but more likely just don’t know.

 

At least they should come out with measures like closing cinemas and banning public gatherings. Thais congratulate themselves on not shaking hands or kissing in public but they need to be told to stop dipping spoons that have been in their mouths into a common dish. In restaurants I am still having to ask for extra spoons to serve the food.

Looks like we're going to be seeing large jumps in new cases on a daily basis. Hope not. The unnecessary food panic buying will surely start soon. Please no Bangkok lockdown. 

 

39 minutes ago, fcbkk said:

And where can they be seen??

Thanks

https://ddc.moph.go.th/viralpneumonia/eng/news.php

12 minutes ago, Grumpy John said:

It buggers sensiblilty to make people pay for the test when we are going into a pandemic.  Yet the government here expects people living hand to mouth to cough up 1000 baht. Morons ????

 

Ladies...got a fever, dry cough, breathing difficulties?

Do a quick short time and you could have what it takes

to get your COVID test done with no problems.

20 minutes ago, Canuck1966 said:

https://twitter.com/Chu_OnlineNews/status/1239082108326297600?s=20

 

I assume it was a private/military plane

 

BP says TG-945 from Rome arrived UTP at 6.15am 15MAR20

We have everything 100% under control !!

2 minutes ago, Tops said:

We have everything 100% under control !!

Well, at least the information.

35 minutes ago, fcbkk said:

And where can they be seen??

Thanks

In the news, just read it.

1 hour ago, Canuck1966 said:

9 at Muay Thai stadium, 3 at the pub, 3 at Suvarnabhumi, 7 from holidays abroad, 2 foreigners.

 

Amazing how only people from overseas and a few in BKK have it.

The rest of the country is under the dome

Like something out of a Stephen King novel!

Maybe it seems to be strange,  but in my province ( Prachinburi and I know some others ), virus doesn't seem to be here; very, very few people have  a mask ( maybe less than 10 % ), and life is absolutely normal 

Thailand reported very early the first cases but did not see any mushrooming of cases. That is because the coronaviruses in general are highly temperature sensitive. The best temperature zone for spreading is 6-12 Celsius and it is a steep looking curve. With 30 C the virus dies quite quickly in most surfaces, couple of hours instead of days.

 

ICUs would have been overflowing two weeks before Italy easily if the spreading were as effective as in Italy.

 

This does not mean you should not be cautious and wash your hands especially when coming from errands and not touching your face when outside. Also do not eat with your bare fingers. You can also buy very small hand spray disinfectant pocket sprays, costs like 150 Baht per 5-6 bottles in sites like Lazada.

1 hour ago, Muzzique said:

Now you can fart and no-one will know who did it. ))) Great idea !!

 

1 hour ago, Canuck1966 said:

I wouldn't like to smell one from that big guy! You'd be able to cut it with an axe

 

1 hour ago, Parsve said:

As a friend of me said when I complained about his fart. "I do not understand you. Why the he.. do you snort up in your nose what I not even want in my ass"?

 

1 hour ago, Susco said:

 

Previously I would always cough to disguise a fart....................These days I do the opposite

 

1 hour ago, MikeyScars said:

Someone farts, everyone turns around and says "who did it!", and they all catch the virus!

So, it won't work!

 

 

And above we can examine all the intelligent comments from TVF´s Infant Fart Brigade.

9 minutes ago, Aforek said:

Maybe it seems to be strange,  but in my province ( Prachinburi and I know some others ), virus doesn't seem to be here; very, very few people have  a mask ( maybe less than 10 % ), and life is absolutely normal 

Yes about 3 weeks ago life was normal in all of Europe. 

1 minute ago, Timwin said:

Thailand reported very early the first cases but did not see any mushrooming of cases. That is because the coronaviruses in general are highly temperature sensitive. The best temperature zone for spreading is 6-12 Celsius and it is a steep looking curve. With 30 C the virus dies quite quickly in most surfaces, couple of hours instead of days.

 

ICUs would have been overflowing two weeks before Italy easily if the spreading were as effective as in Italy.

 

This does not mean you should not be cautious and wash your hands especially when coming from errands and not touching your face when outside. Also do not eat with your bare fingers. You can also buy very small hand spray disinfectant pocket sprays, costs like 150 Baht per 5-6 bottles in sites like Lazada.

Scientists are still not sure if the virus is disabled by the mix of heat and huminity.
If we look to Brazil (hot and humid) the number of people infected with the Wuhan virus is just taking off. At the moment there are 151 confirmed cumulated cases (151 active, 0 deaths, 0 recovered). I'm sure that we'll see a 4 digit number not later than by the end of the week.
India also seems about to enter the phase of exponential growth. They are at 102 confirmed cumulated cases (96 active, 2 deaths, 4 recovered).

I think that population density. the intensity of social contacts and hygiene standards are much more important for the spreading of that virus than heat / humity.

58 minutes ago, Canuck1966 said:

 

https://ddc.moph.go.th/viralpneumonia/eng/news.php

Thank you, but the latest report is from the 14th and there is none of the info published that you quoted earlier. So can i repeat my question - where did you get the info from and what/where does “3 at the pub” refer to? 

1 hour ago, Canuck1966 said:

no wonder nobody gets tested, it's a week or more wages for most Thai folk

 

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/the-costs-of-testing-for-covid-19-infection/?fbclid=IwAR3sbDl8cPZIw3lNDuLudkmpIHuRNx8_m2oLm8PXNKbj75TfhrrNJ5wh8JY

Some private hospitals are charging a months wage. 

1 hour ago, khunpa said:

I think they might have realized it is too hard to hide anymore, when sick people are starting to post of social media.

Because no one is scared of the government anymore, they are more concerned with the true spread of the virus.  Can not wait to see how they can possibly spin this other than community spread....

So finally Thailand is catching up with the rest of the world. Exercise caution everyone and try to think 2 steps ahead of the ruling gov

30 minutes ago, Timwin said:

Thailand reported very early the first cases but did not see any mushrooming of cases. That is because the coronaviruses in general are highly temperature sensitive. The best temperature zone for spreading is 6-12 Celsius and it is a steep looking curve. With 30 C the virus dies quite quickly in most surfaces, couple of hours instead of days.

Prove it please. In addition, a virus can never die because it does not have the basic condition for dying, namely to be a living organism. Your claim is as stupid as to say that a stone can die.

29 minutes ago, Aforek said:

Maybe it seems to be strange,  but in my province ( Prachinburi and I know some others ), virus doesn't seem to be here; very, very few people have  a mask ( maybe less than 10 % ), and life is absolutely normal 

Not that strange, cases are either imported from abroad by a few “dirty foreigners” or many Thais returning from overseas trips, or they have had contact with one of those groups. Either way, the vast majority of cases will be in Bangkok, that is where most flights from abroad arrive, and where they will be detected at the airport.

 How many people from Issaan make overseas trips compared to people from BKK ?

 Eventually there will be cases in the provinces when somebody in Bangkok infects a waitress or taxi driver before they realize they are contagious and then that waitress heads home to Issaan, possibly infecting more people on the bus, and her family, before she starts showing symptoms too.

3 minutes ago, MikeN said:

Not that strange, cases are either imported from abroad by a few “dirty foreigners” or many Thais returning from overseas trips, or they have had contact with one of those groups. Either way, the vast majority of cases will be in Bangkok, that is where most flights from abroad arrive, and where they will be detected at the airport.

 How many people from Issaan make overseas trips compared to people from BKK ?

 Eventually there will be cases in the provinces when somebody in Bangkok infects a waitress or taxi driver before they realize they are contagious and then that waitress heads home to Issaan, possibly infecting more people on the bus, and her family, before she starts showing symptoms too.

sounds a lot like what will happen in a month or so for Songkran

Edited March 15, 20206 yr by Canuck1966

They could close down the whole bar scene 

10 minutes ago, Parsve said:

Prove it please. In addition, a virus can never die because it does not have the basic condition for dying, namely to be a living organism. Your claim is as stupid as to say that a stone can die.

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3074131/coronavirus-highly-sensitive-high-temperatures-dont-bank-summer

 

It is sensitive to temperature. Otherwise Thailand with 10 million Chinese tourists per year, compared to 2 million in Italy, would have been much worse two weeks before Italy! The epidemic is much slower spreading in Thailand and that is very good news. 

Edited March 15, 20206 yr by Timwin

6 minutes ago, Canuck1966 said:

sounds a lot like what will happen in a month or so for Songkran

That’s exactly what I am afraid of ......

9 minutes ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

Do you have evidence for that claim? There have been two major coronavirus outbreaks in the last two decades: SARS and MERS.

 

I'm not sure about the temperature-related statistics for SARS but MERS is most prevalent in Saudi Arabia where it  doesn't seem to have have any problem with temperatures well above 40°C and sometimes touching 50°C. In fact most years since it started, there has been an increase in cases in the spring and summer.

 

So I'm not sure we can say that coronaviruses in general are susceptible to high temperatures.

 

I provided the link in other post. It can survive as infectious pathogen in hot temperatures but the optimum is lower, 6-12 C temperatures. Both SARS and MERS were btw pretty much direct close contact based spreading viruses, where the outside temperature does not affect at all. In other words they could not spread nowhere near as effective as this one via indirect ways.

Edited March 15, 20206 yr by Timwin

1 hour ago, ukrules said:

In the news, just read it.

I do read the news from quite a few sources incl Thai and none shows the information quoted. If you actually saw it published somewhere then you could have made a positive contribution by posting a link, or otherwise remaining quiet. 

2 hours ago, Canuck1966 said:

In other news the air in Chiang Mai is well over 400

They closed the schools in BKK when it was 170

170 is considered a good day with fresh air in CM.

15 minutes ago, ChipButty said:

They could close down the whole bar scene 

They did in Vietnam from 6pm Saturday.

District 1 Saigon ghost town.

26 minutes ago, ChipButty said:

They could close down the whole bar scene 

the world is closing so yes the bar seen will also close

3 hours ago, seasia said:

Big % rise.

Perhaps a start on the way to reality and truth.

he cases were always going to rise gradually.

That way face is saved