Thailand reports 89 new coronavirus cases, one more death

[stephenterry]

2 minutes ago, GAZZPA said:

thats old news fella. Yes vulnerable people are at risk but its killing people of all ages many in perfect health.

While I'm in agreement with the vulnerable people scenario, it's extremely unlikely that the majority of the population are in perfect health because such a perfect condition doesn't exist. We all begin to deteriorate one way or another from early age, some sooner than others. What is more accurate is to state no obvious medical disease symptoms identified at point of death, or similar. 

 

Nit picking, I know, and clearly not a life situation anyone of any age could imagine as being their mortality date earlier than anticipated. On that note, it's clear that the immune system failed those people who would consider themselves as being healthy - clearly for whatever health reasons they weren't able to survive the virus onslaught.

 

 

 

[AgentSmith]

Just now, GAZZPA said:

there is a big difference between "painty a gloomy picture" and getting to grips with the facts. This is a very serious issue, one like we have never seen,, fact, face it, treat is seriously. I would 100% rather be in the UK then in a country that cant even test people to understand the spread. Also I would rather be here (in the UK) because I know what the situation is, there is very clear advice and should things go wrong for me and I contract it i have medical help on my doorstep without the demand of 20,000 baht just to step in the door. Im glad you were not around to fight the war instead of my Grandfather.... 

Some people have decent insurance in LOS. If I or my family need medical assistance then we simply get it. Unconditionally, everything covered. I much rather be in Thailand right now than in the west where the situation is much more grim and where the chance of contracting this virus is way higher. And... to each his own. I just wish people wouldn't be so derogatory towards others and the country they're currently staying in. It's painfully disrespectful and serves no purpose. And leave wars out of it. This pandemic is bad enough as it is.

[eeworldwide]

2 minutes ago, GAZZPA said:

i have no words. Carry on as usual, mix in crowds, eat out and go buy stuff from the shop wherever you can. The rest of the sensible people in the world will carry on doing their bit to beat the virus. I guess you will be one of the cannon fodder.

Im assuming you realise that my post was sarcastic?

[Odin Norway]

5 minutes ago, Dap said:

It is absolutely frightening to see how many posters here believe the virus is retreating. This has a long way to go before it will be safe to be out and about socializing at your favorite night spots the way you did 2 months ago. I would think that the incredibly high numbers of dead and dying folk around the world as well as the overburdened medical facilities and staff might have struck some sense of reality into some of you. You people are downright scary 

Exactly spot on.No wonder they only find around 100 a day when they only do 700 tests in 1 day.

 

[stephenterry]

16 minutes ago, Wavel said:

Their is less people that have been tested for Covid 19 here in Thailand than have died in the UK. Thank your lucky stars that your here.

We haven't even begun our infection cycle yet. That will happen soon, and I'd rather be in Vietnam right now, that's a fact. 

[AgentSmith]

1 minute ago, stephenterry said:

While I'm in agreement with the vulnerable people scenario, it's extremely unlikely that the majority of the population are in perfect health because such a perfect condition doesn't exist. We all begin to deteriorate one way or another from early age, some sooner than others. What is more accurate is to state no obvious medical disease symptoms identified at point of death, or similar.

You're seeing it backwards. People who do fall in the category of having a perfect health are also getting very sick from this virus. Nothing we do can protect us from getting sick apart from social distancing and waiting this out until there's either a cure or a vaccine, or both. This virus simply doesn't discriminate and every single human being is at serious risk of getting either really sick or dying in this pandemic.

[DrTuner]

8 minutes ago, stephenterry said:

While I'm in agreement with the vulnerable people scenario, it's extremely unlikely that the majority of the population are in perfect health because such a perfect condition doesn't exist. We all begin to deteriorate one way or another from early age, some sooner than others. What is more accurate is to state no obvious medical disease symptoms identified at point of death, or similar. 

Thanks for pointing this out. I previously asked folks here when they had their last full checkup. Crickets. 

 

Diabetes f.ex. is one of the risk conditions. Which is tightly connected to obesity. If one takes a look at how people have gotten fatter in the last few decades, it's obvious diabetes and pre-diabetes are rampant, as often reported in the news. Same goes for high blood pressure, etc, etc. 

[stephenterry]

4 minutes ago, AgentSmith said:

You're seeing it backwards. People who do fall in the category of having a perfect health are also getting very sick from this virus. Nothing we do can protect us from getting sick apart from social distancing and waiting this out until there's either a cure or a vaccine, or both. This virus simply doesn't discriminate and every single human being is at serious risk of getting either really sick or dying in this pandemic.

People are getting sick because their immune system is not perfectly healthy. That's factual, and there are many avenues to improve immune systems to the maximum your body can realise - e.g. high nutritional diet, no obesity etc etc.. 

[Krataiboy]

42 minutes ago, GAZZPA said:

goodness. Have you been keeping up with current affairs? People are dying a lot, the best estimate right now is 3.5% of people are dying, it is dangerous for everyone. We all have to do our bit to avoid infection of yourself and in turn our families and so forth. Time to face facts fella and wake up! This is not overblown news hype, we are in a global pandemic, it is a very contagious disease that can make you very sick. As for hidden agenda well most of the world is trashing its economies in order to tackle the virus. So are you suggesting that all the leaders of all the countries in the world have a secret agenda that all the people cannot know? WAKE UP AND STOP BEING A BUFFOON!

 

Sounds like you are the one in need of a wake-up call. So yourself a favour and watch the video before commenting, however inanely, again.

 

 

Edited April 4, 2020 by Krataiboy

[Mises]

41 minutes ago, AgentSmith said:

There's too many deaf ears and blind eyes. Some won't believe how deadly this virus is until people are starting to collapse around them. Perfectly healthy and fit people and not just the sick and elderly. Let's just hope they get so wrapped up in their conspiracy theories that we don't have to deal with them anymore.

What was the average age of those who died in Italy? I think you will find it was 78.5

[Burma Bill]

4 hours ago, cornishcarlos said:

Right, it's going down... Get those Chinese tourists back in !!!

Not just yet, but when Pattaya "converts" to a Gambling Resort!

[ExpatOilWorker]

Chitlom April 4th.

 

[yokat]

Is it free to get tested yet ? What qualifies someone to get a free test ? How many test are being done each day ?

The reported number of test that was done each day before they stopped including it and removed it from all previous report 2 days ago was somewhere between 300 and 500 tests per day. The last backlog they reported was over 7000 tests awaiting lab results.

 

If they are not trying to hide the fact that they don't test enough why have they replaced the old report with ones that don't show the tests numbers ?

Without test number ( Creation Date: 4/2/2020, 6:06:53 PM) : https://ddc.moph.go.th/viralpneumonia/file/situation/situation-no86-290363_4.pdf

With test number ( Creation date: 3/30/2020, 4:46:31 PM): https://ddc.moph.go.th/viralpneumonia/file/situation/situation-no86-290363_3.pdf

 

I digged a little into the old report and found one that's not linked on the MOPH page : https://ddc.moph.go.th/viralpneumonia/file/situation/situation-no89-010463.pdf

In this report the backlog is only ~2000 (5000 less than a day before)... I still have my doubt though, somehow they tested 10 times more than on previous days but didn't find more cases

 

Don't get me wrong, I believe that the situation will get better soon, people are working from home, wearing masks, not eating at restaurants... It can only get better. But now is too early for it to start being visible in the number of reported cases. People that self quarantine at home are extremely likely to infect others in their household and each next generation of infection can take more than a week to develop symptoms. I believe the current curve would be more realistic two weeks from now.

Edited April 4, 2020 by yokat

[Chiang Mai Bill]

The super-fit, super-healthy (? super-human) Thais are doing incredibly well coping with this pandemic! Just how do they do it? It's beyond belief that Thailand alone seems to be so mildly affected! Only 20 dead to date!

 

Perhaps super-gullible would be a better term?

[Trip Hop]

1 hour ago, spermwhale said:

Have you thought maybe they are not testing that many because not many people are showing up at hospital with symptoms? If you have symptoms they will test you. 

 

According to the G/F yesterday, they are telling people not to turn up to the hospital unless you are really sick?

[ThailandRyan]

1 minute ago, Mises said:

What was the average age of those who died in Italy? I think you will find it was 78.5

And just how many were in their teens or twenties that dropped it down to 78.5.  Wow another brilliant person, who does not look at the whole world in general.  This is not just about the Old, the infirm, the very young.  It does not discriminate.  I have lost three friends now in 2 weeks, 2 in the last two days, ages 42, 48, and 60.  My daughter who is an ICU Nurse in Florida has had a 6 month old and a 17 year old boy die in her ward in the last two days as well.  So take a guess again, and tell me it just affects the old.....

[humbug]

The virus has been around this land for too long, Public knowledge 13th jan, probably going back December to November, that’s too long to think testing a few hundred a day, and creepy lockdowns, hiding other reasons by the men in green, is going to do anything now, the world will be turning to ‘herd immunity’ on mass soon, no one will be able to take another 4 weeks of the crashing of economies

[Trip Hop]

16 minutes ago, Mises said:

What was the average age of those who died in Italy? I think you will find it was 78.5

I have a friend here in the UK who is currently in an induced coma due to Covid-19 and they don't know for sure as to whether he will make it?  He's 42 and suffers from mild asthma.  On the whole I would say that he was healthier than myself (no pre-existing conditions and regular check ups due to work) as well as the majority of the TV members?  Just wondering where this fits in with your theory?

Edited April 4, 2020 by Trip Hop
changed to past tense

[Chassa]

13 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

And just how many were in their teens or twenties that dropped it down to 78.5

Must have had some 200 year olds to average out the teens and twenties!

[Tingnongnoi]

8 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

I just can't believe this. Have you looked at the figures from Brazil, Equador, Philippines,etc. How can you justify such nonsence. Typical coronavirus? Why do they call it novel?

Brazil and Ecuador nowhere as hot as here and Phillipines has 3000 cases. He said the spreading rate is slower in tropical countries, if you look at a lot of other countries with similar temperatures to here then it does look that way.

[rech]

4 hours ago, cornishcarlos said:

Right, it's going down... Get those Chinese tourists back in !!!

 

Clearly Thailand won't be hit as strong as Europe.

Why so much drama here when nothing happened yet ?

 

 

[cornishcarlos]

Just now, rech said:

 

Clearly Thailand won't be hit as strong as Europe.

Why so much drama here when nothing happened yet ?

 

 

 

Yes you must be right.. No travel restrictions here. No alcohol bans here. No curfew here. No panic buying here.

What's all the fuss about ??

[hotchilli]

4 hours ago, kevin612 said:

I think the peak is over, tmr probably around 75 cases.

Numbers are going down, restrictions are going up and you think the peak is over??

So why aren't restrictions which have only been in place for a few days not being relaxed?

[Trip Hop]

11 minutes ago, Chassa said:

Must have had some 200 year olds to average out the teens and twenties!

If you understood mathematics, then you would understand just how idiotic that statement really is?

[rech]

7 minutes ago, cornishcarlos said:

 

Yes you must be right.. No travel restrictions here. No alcohol bans here. No curfew here. No panic buying here.

What's all the fuss about ??

 

do you see the nurses video saying how overcrowded are hospitals ?

don't be ridiculous, nothing happened here and nothing will happen, it's just preventive.

How can you be so gullible...

 

 

 

Edited April 4, 2020 by rech

[Ian C HH]

I’m not 100 percent sure that the numbers tested is much of an indicator here. Logic dictates the more you test the more will bee confirmed positive, so it will be tough to identify a trend ( either growth or decline) just by positive tests. Wouldn’t it? 
however DEATHS can’t be hidden I hope, so reported deaths can show a trend, and daily deaths an even better one. With one massive caveat- we just despatched thousands of potentially positive cases up to Isaan and the North, it’ll take 5 to 25 days for the worst ones to manifest themselves into new daily deaths. So best keep the restrictions in place until THOSE numbers flow into the statistics don’t you think? 

[rech]

5 minutes ago, Ian C HH said:

I’m not 100 percent sure that the numbers tested is much of an indicator here. Logic dictates the more you test the more will bee confirmed positive, so it will be tough to identify a trend ( either growth or decline) just by positive tests. Wouldn’t it? 
however DEATHS can’t be hidden I hope, so reported deaths can show a trend, and daily deaths an even better one. With one massive caveat- we just despatched thousands of potentially positive cases up to Isaan and the North, it’ll take 5 to 25 days for the worst ones to manifest themselves into new daily deaths. So best keep the restrictions in place until THOSE numbers flow into the statistics don’t you think? 

 

yes for sure, things can be hidden in a country with 50 millions mobile phones at least...

 

so funny.

 

 

[Basil B]

If the recording of cases and deaths is in line with recording of injuries and deaths from road accident then I am not surprised the figures are low.

 

Wonder if they can hide the total number of deaths in the Kingdom when they start to climb well above the seasonal average?

[peterb17]

I’m not saying we should not worry - but my ex home country- similar population had over 600 deaths yesterday- they get shouted at by the police if they even open their front doors. 
Put things into perspective- less conspiracies.

 

I'm more concerned we are running out of water . 

[felicitous]

Am I the only one or others than me experience electric shortance in power? (Yes, its covid-19 related)
 

normal I can pull out 8-10kw on the meter per hour, now only 2-3kw an hour last 2 weeks. 
 

my theory are since more than normal ppl stay home and use their aircon/water pump and so on, more now have to share.

 

can hardly cool Down the house and might only get worse if the 24h curfew starts.