Time to sue China?

[Youlike]

We also should sack and imprison the WHO...they let china kept the virus secret for 6 days and after that they started praising them for trying to stop it so well....

 

It's because of that WHO that the virus spread all over the world caused they called it a flu and didn't warn us.Lock them all up.

[johnray]

You all believe Donald Trump.  It's hilarious.  A nation with a history of dropping viruses on their own people and a recent history of wanting to destroy the economy of China and yet you all think the virus comes from a market in Wuhan.  I think that's called a suspect with the motive means and opportunity.

 

I would even go as far as saying Prince Charles, Boris Johnson and few other celebs are playing their parts and faking the illness.  Why would anyone trust the US government?

[RJRS1301]

5 minutes ago, johnray said:

A nation with a history of dropping viruses on their own people

Evidence please.

I am not a DJT supporter and always skeptical regarding admin in most countries, but I need convincing of that claim.

 

Dropping barrel bombs on others yes and other unsavoury acts: but virus on its own citizens ??  

Edited April 19, 2020 by RJRS1301

[chessman]

From the Harvard business Review.

 

https://hbr.org/2020/02/how-much-money-does-the-world-owe-china

 

Key paragraph: 

"In total, the Chinese state and its subsidiaries have lent about $1.5 trillion in direct loans and trade credits to more than 150 countries around the globe. This has turned China into the world’s largest official creditor — surpassing traditional, official lenders such as the World Bank, the IMF, or all OECD creditor governments combined."

 

anybody have any idea what would happen if all those countries collectively decided to not pay China back?

 

[Onrai]

Suing China for a zoonotic transmitted disease originating in bats is about as logical as all ocean species suing the world for irreparably polluting their habitat. I’d put my money on a porpoise or whale to make a convincing indictment against mankind.

[ravip]

Just saw this stuff on FB. If these are hard facts, it will be difficult for the US to boycot China... if so, where would the other countries stand?

QUOTE

By George Soros:

If you are an American not living in a very remote & isolated place, how come you don’t know that :-

???? *400,000+ Chinese students* are studying /living in America and each year they will spend about _*30 billion US Dollars*_ in America ?
There is no any other single country that can contribute so much to the American economy & education.
Imagine how many teachers will lose their jobs if these Chinese students are not here?

???? Do you know that there are about *two million Chinese visitors* each year coming to the US?
Do you not notice that all major tourist sites & stores in the US have signs in the Chinese language?
Each Chinese tourist will spend *_$6,000-$7,000_* in America;
imagine how many jobs have been created by that.

???? Do you know that China will purchase about *7,000 Boeing aircraft* in the next 20 years
_(China has already bought thousands of Boeing planes)._
Is there any other country that contributes so much to America’s economy?
But the trade war will be a nightmare for Boeing; _China will buy more from Airbus now. _

???? Do you know that besides America and Russia, China is also able to send *astronauts to space* and has the ability to build a _*permanent space station*_?
China is the first country that has landed a *probe* to the *_”dark side”_* of the moon.

????Wonder if you know that the *railroad & new trains* in Africa built by Chinese are even _*better*_ than rail / trains in America?
And LA, Boston, NYC all have ordered subway trains *made in China* and the first group of newly China-built trains have been in operation in Boston subway.
By the way , high speed train systems are all over China with a speed of *350 km/ hour* while here in the USA we don’t have any of it. Even in the richest state - California -we don’t have funds to build one.

????Do you know that China is the *biggest overseas market* for three major _*US automakers*_ ?
In 2017, Buick sold _*1,229,804 cars*_ in China, Ford sold _*951,396*_ and Chevrolet sold _*538,671*_.
Isn’t that the dream of any automaker in the world?

????Maybe you don’t know that in 2017 China Box office *Hollywood movies* raked in _*3.26 billion US dollars*_ ?
Is there any bigger overseas market for Hollywood ?
Nope.

????Do you know that the Chinese have bought many *American icon businesses* including Forbes Magazine, Chicago Stock Exchange, AMC _*(2.6 billions)*_, Smith Foods _*(7.1 b)*_, Legendary movie studio _*(3.5 b),*_ GE Appliance division _*(5.4 b),*_ The Waldorf-Astoia _*(2 b),*_ Ingram Micro _*)6 b),*_ Motorola _*(2.9 b),*_ Ritz-Carlton _*(3.9b).*_

????If you are an American, do you know that the *largest foreign holder of U.S. debt* is China, which owns more than _*$1.24 trillion*_?
Without borrowed money from China, the US government will be closed.

????Do you know that without *China’s vote*, the UN could not pass _*sanctions against N. Korea*_?

Obviously people don’t know these facts because they don’t get any positive news from the American media,
no matter if the media is left or right, CNN or FOX.
*Media wouldn't tell people the truth about China. *
_*They only feed you negatives news about China.*_ ????

UNQUOTE

[Lacessit]

10 minutes ago, ravip said:

Just saw this stuff on FB. If these are hard facts, it will be difficult for the US to boycot China... if so, where would the other countries stand?

QUOTE

By George Soros:

If you are an American not living in a very remote & isolated place, how come you don’t know that :-

???? *400,000+ Chinese students* are studying /living in America and each year they will spend about _*30 billion US Dollars*_ in America ?
There is no any other single country that can contribute so much to the American economy & education.
Imagine how many teachers will lose their jobs if these Chinese students are not here?

???? Do you know that there are about *two million Chinese visitors* each year coming to the US?
Do you not notice that all major tourist sites & stores in the US have signs in the Chinese language?
Each Chinese tourist will spend *_$6,000-$7,000_* in America;
imagine how many jobs have been created by that.

???? Do you know that China will purchase about *7,000 Boeing aircraft* in the next 20 years
_(China has already bought thousands of Boeing planes)._
Is there any other country that contributes so much to America’s economy?
But the trade war will be a nightmare for Boeing; _China will buy more from Airbus now. _

???? Do you know that besides America and Russia, China is also able to send *astronauts to space* and has the ability to build a _*permanent space station*_?
China is the first country that has landed a *probe* to the *_”dark side”_* of the moon.

????Wonder if you know that the *railroad & new trains* in Africa built by Chinese are even _*better*_ than rail / trains in America?
And LA, Boston, NYC all have ordered subway trains *made in China* and the first group of newly China-built trains have been in operation in Boston subway.
By the way , high speed train systems are all over China with a speed of *350 km/ hour* while here in the USA we don’t have any of it. Even in the richest state - California -we don’t have funds to build one.

????Do you know that China is the *biggest overseas market* for three major _*US automakers*_ ?
In 2017, Buick sold _*1,229,804 cars*_ in China, Ford sold _*951,396*_ and Chevrolet sold _*538,671*_.
Isn’t that the dream of any automaker in the world?

????Maybe you don’t know that in 2017 China Box office *Hollywood movies* raked in _*3.26 billion US dollars*_ ?
Is there any bigger overseas market for Hollywood ?
Nope.

????Do you know that the Chinese have bought many *American icon businesses* including Forbes Magazine, Chicago Stock Exchange, AMC _*(2.6 billions)*_, Smith Foods _*(7.1 b)*_, Legendary movie studio _*(3.5 b),*_ GE Appliance division _*(5.4 b),*_ The Waldorf-Astoia _*(2 b),*_ Ingram Micro _*)6 b),*_ Motorola _*(2.9 b),*_ Ritz-Carlton _*(3.9b).*_

????If you are an American, do you know that the *largest foreign holder of U.S. debt* is China, which owns more than _*$1.24 trillion*_?
Without borrowed money from China, the US government will be closed.

????Do you know that without *China’s vote*, the UN could not pass _*sanctions against N. Korea*_?

Obviously people don’t know these facts because they don’t get any positive news from the American media,
no matter if the media is left or right, CNN or FOX.
*Media wouldn't tell people the truth about China. *
_*They only feed you negatives news about China.*_ ????

UNQUOTE

China is not the problem. It is the CCP that is the problem.

Many of the positives from China are due to having very cheap labor, and total disregard for worker safety.

For example, China dominates the rare earths industry, used in smartphones and TV's. 95% of rare earth production. That's because basic safety standards in mining toxic elements are ignored. Rare earths are not all that rare, most nations have them.

The CCP suppressed information in the initial stages of the outbreak, even going so far as to silence or ostracise front-line health workers. They also permitted hundreds of thousands of Chinese from Wuhan to travel to other countries, spreading the infection.

IMO the best way to penalise the CCP at no cost is to recognise Taiwan as a sovereign independent nation, and the CCP can fork off if they don't like it.

If you want to be an apologist for the CCP, fine. Don't expect your post to go unanswered.

[Salerno]

 

[Salerno]

I think the CCP is pushing back a little too hard what wit the threatening Australia, breaking diplomatic protocols with Australia and the propaganda video above ... are they pushing for a confrontation?

[Laza 45]

Time for China to sue USA for exporting swine flu to China?  

[Quickmill]

Yes, why not, if China will be found to be responsible for the "virus creation and subsequent spreading" i think they should to be sued.

But what other countries did to fight the "virus"  it could not be taken under China responsibility.

Note that i think that something weird does exist ( by all sides) in all this crazy period, but searching for a scapegoat is not the way to solve the actual situation.