In bid for unity, ex-rival Sanders backs Biden to challenge Trump

[luckyluke]

1 minute ago, Kelsall said:

The Dems should just forfeit this election

Has to been seen as a test,

how much votes will Mr. Biden get, despite his 'handicaps".

Democrats should  accept that Mr.Trump will be  potus for another 4 years,

and than will be history.

Democrats should also be happy that the Republicans don't have /even never had, the media, and maybe even education  in their hands.

Being mentioned regularly, also now in another topic, that the media is left winged.

It seems that the Democrats always want it all.

[ChouDoufu]

33 minutes ago, Kelsall said:

The Dems should just forfeit this election and concentrate on getting a non-senile candidate for 2024.

 

With Governors Newsom (D-CA) and Cuomo (D-NY) recently endorsing Trump's coronavirus efforts, as well as the cheering New York crowds when the USNS Comfort arrived a couple of weeks ago, there is strong evidence Trump will take both those states.  Expect a Trump landslide victory in November.

maybe, trump and cuomo have been friendly the past week once trump backed off of a federal quarantine of the northern states.

 

that's in the past, now trump is claiming absolute authority to reopen, while the states are holding back.

 

i realize the press is anti-trump, so the article linked below must be read with a carload of salt.  but if trump isn't careful, he's gonna lose a big basket of states rights deplorables.

 

https://apnews.com/ba9578acf23bdb03fd51a2b81f640560

[sucit]

8 minutes ago, luckyluke said:

Has to been seen as a test,

how much votes will Mr. Biden get, despite his 'handicaps".

Democrats should  accept that Mr.Trump will be  potus for another 4 years,

and than will be history.

Democrats should also be happy that the Republicans don't have /even never had, the media, and maybe even education  in their hands.

Being mentioned regularly, also now in another topic, that the media is left winged.

It seems that the Democrats always want it all.

It wont even be close. You are right. If there is any hope for Biden at all, it is only because this situation we are in. 

 

Trump is moving left of centrist dems like Biden on many issues like the checks currently being delivered and even medicare. Biden does nothing to bring Bernie supporters on board. He goes on the news and proclaims how he will shut down medicare for all if he got the chance. 

 

Trump has much more savvy and political maneuverability. The Bidens of the world are tied to their donors, and it is quite obvious. Voters say "Biden would go out of his way to strike down legislation important to me? I will go out of my way not to support him". Trump knows this and it is wise of him to capitalize on it, these are swing votes. 

 

There will be a lot of dems voting none of the above and even Trump. There wont be any republicans voting for Biden or abstaining. 

 

Maybe in 2024 dem voters will finally have learned their lesson. 

[earlinclaifornia]

39 minutes ago, Kelsall said:

The Dems should just forfeit this election and concentrate on getting a non-senile candidate for 2024.

 

With Governors Newsom (D-CA) and Cuomo (D-NY) recently endorsing Trump's coronavirus efforts, as well as the cheering New York crowds when the USNS Comfort arrived a couple of weeks ago, there is strong evidence Trump will take both those states.  Expect a Trump landslide victory in November.

Are you by chance willing to bet some money on that. Or just FAKE all around?

[blazes]

 

No one on this thread (so far) (except #28) has attempted to analyse why Bernie never made it.  There are the usual arguments that the Great American Public is not yet ready for a red-in-tooth-and-claw SOCIALIST.

 

But I would submit that Bernie was happy not to win, since he (at 78+) would face grindingly awful opposition from his own "party" if he were to attempt to bring in Medicare for All (which most of us from non-American backgrounds regard as par for the course in modern society).  And of course his Dem "friends' would fling at him his youthful travels to the Soviet Union!

 

He deserves to lose, though, since he joined in, back in early 2017, the baying chorus of Democrats who were petrified that Trump was going to forge a new friendship with Russia (at the expense, of course, of China and its multitude of treasonous acolytes in Washington D.C.).   These last four years have been all about the loss of Power by the Democrats if Trump was successful in opening up a new friendship with Russia.  Lots of jobs depend on Russia being, once again, the old enemy.....

[earlinclaifornia]

10 minutes ago, sucit said:

It wont even be close. You are right. If there is any hope for Biden at all, it is only because this situation we are in. 

 

Trump is moving left of centrist dems like Biden on many issues like the checks currently being delivered and even medicare. Biden does nothing to bring Bernie supporters on board. He goes on the news and proclaims how he will shut down medicare for all if he got the chance. 

 

Trump has much more savvy and political maneuverability. The Bidens of the world are tied to their donors, and it is quite obvious. Voters say "Biden would go out of his way to strike down legislation important to me? I will go out of my way not to support him". Trump knows this and it is wise of him to capitalize on it, these are swing votes. 

 

There will be a lot of dems voting none of the above and even Trump. There wont be any republicans voting for Biden or abstaining. 

 

Maybe in 2024 dem voters will finally have learned their lesson. 

I read all the Republican postings but so far you have to be the funniest and at the same time most incoherent to date

[earlinclaifornia]

27 minutes ago, blazes said:

 

No one on this thread (so far) (except #28) has attempted to analyse why Bernie never made it.  There are the usual arguments that the Great American Public is not yet ready for a red-in-tooth-and-claw SOCIALIST.

 

But I would submit that Bernie was happy not to win, since he (at 78+) would face grindingly awful opposition from his own "party" if he were to attempt to bring in Medicare for All (which most of us from non-American backgrounds regard as par for the course in modern society).  And of course his Dem "friends' would fling at him his youthful travels to the Soviet Union!

 

He deserves to lose, though, since he joined in, back in early 2017, the baying chorus of Democrats who were petrified that Trump was going to forge a new friendship with Russia (at the expense, of course, of China and its multitude of treasonous acolytes in Washington D.C.).   These last four years have been all about the loss of Power by the Democrats if Trump was successful in opening up a new friendship with Russia.  Lots of jobs depend on Russia being, once again, the old enemy.....

What part of my post is confusing to you wanting to make a financial bet with Kesall I dare you to answer!

[earlinclaifornia]

1 hour ago, Kelsall said:

The Dems should just forfeit this election and concentrate on getting a non-senile candidate for 2024.

 

With Governors Newsom (D-CA) and Cuomo (D-NY) recently endorsing Trump's coronavirus efforts, as well as the cheering New York crowds when the USNS Comfort arrived a couple of weeks ago, there is strong evidence Trump will take both those states.  Expect a Trump landslide victory in November.

 I was 100% sure I would get dead silence from you. Please keep up your opinions especially like you wanting to see Hillary run 

[WalkingOrders]

8 minutes ago, earlinclaifornia said:

 I was 100% sure I would get dead silence from you. Please keep up your opinions especially like you wanting to see Hillary run 

What's yer opinion on that? You think you might get a last minute entance from her or anyone else?

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[Andy from Kent]

1 hour ago, Kelsall said:

The Dems should just forfeit this election and concentrate on getting a non-senile candidate for 2024.

 

With Governors Newsom (D-CA) and Cuomo (D-NY) recently endorsing Trump's coronavirus efforts, as well as the cheering New York crowds when the USNS Comfort arrived a couple of weeks ago, there is strong evidence Trump will take both those states.  Expect a Trump landslide victory in November.

 

I thought many Yanks believe Donald Trump shows signs of dementia.

 

[WalkingOrders]

1 hour ago, ChouDoufu said:

maybe, trump and cuomo have been friendly the past week once trump backed off of a federal quarantine of the northern states.

 

that's in the past, now trump is claiming absolute authority to reopen, while the states are holding back.

 

i realize the press is anti-trump, so the article linked below must be read with a carload of salt.  but if trump isn't careful, he's gonna lose a big basket of states rights deplorables.

 

https://apnews.com/ba9578acf23bdb03fd51a2b81f640560

Trumps base is solid as a rock obvious even to the Chinese Communist Party.

[WalkingOrders]

1 minute ago, Andy from Kent said:

 

I thought many Yanks believe Donald Trump shows signs of dementia.

 

About as much as Boris, which is still a far cry from Sleepy ("Rub the hairs on my leg" ) Joe.

[WalkingOrders]

1 hour ago, sucit said:

It wont even be close. You are right. If there is any hope for Biden at all, it is only because this situation we are in. 

 

Trump is moving left of centrist dems like Biden on many issues like the checks currently being delivered and even medicare. Biden does nothing to bring Bernie supporters on board. He goes on the news and proclaims how he will shut down medicare for all if he got the chance. 

 

Trump has much more savvy and political maneuverability. The Bidens of the world are tied to their donors, and it is quite obvious. Voters say "Biden would go out of his way to strike down legislation important to me? I will go out of my way not to support him". Trump knows this and it is wise of him to capitalize on it, these are swing votes. 

 

There will be a lot of dems voting none of the above and even Trump. There wont be any republicans voting for Biden or abstaining. 

 

Maybe in 2024 dem voters will finally have learned their lesson. 

Trump is NOT moving left of "Centrist Dems" on ANY issue. The stimulus is NOT a leftist move, its an emergency neccessity being carried out in a state of crisis.

Edited April 14, 2020 by WalkingOrders
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[earlinclaifornia]

1 hour ago, ChouDoufu said:

maybe, trump and cuomo have been friendly the past week once trump backed off of a federal quarantine of the northern states.

 

that's in the past, now trump is claiming absolute authority to reopen, while the states are holding back.

 

i realize the press is anti-trump, so the article linked below must be read with a carload of salt.  but if trump isn't careful, he's gonna lose a big basket of states rights deplorables.

 

https://apnews.com/ba9578acf23bdb03fd51a2b81f640560

Good point as I do see the base does indeed support States Rights wholeheartedly. The part I find most interesting was trump saying he has an abundance of supporting evidence that he has the ultimate say over the States but offers ZERO proof of that. Big Joke! Constitution is VERY clear on what he dose have authority on.

[ChouDoufu]

4 minutes ago, WalkingOrders said:

Trumps base is solid as a rock obvious even to the Chinese Communist Party.

is it?  he got my vote by absentee ballot to texas in the last election.  more of a vote for "not her" than for trump, though.  i had some hope he would be different, but in a good way.  i was disappointed.  i see him selling his soul to his donors, and we're still in afghanistan/iraq/syria/etc, and still regime-changing.  i was fooled thinking his blowhard, know-nothing public image was just an act.

 

can't see voting for a creature like biden, not even as a "not him" vote.  if it comes down to those two, think i'll just save myself the trouble of printing off the ballot and expense of an airmail stamp.  what difference, at that point, would it make?

[Eric Loh]

15 minutes ago, WalkingOrders said:

Trumps base is solid as a rock obvious even to the Chinese Communist Party.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2017/03/22/poll-trump-s-base-support-is-eroding

[WalkingOrders]

7 minutes ago, earlinclaifornia said:

Good point as I do see the base does indeed support States Rights wholeheartedly. The part I find most interesting was trump saying he has an abundance of supporting evidence that he has the ultimate say over the States but offers ZERO proof of that. Big Joke! Constitution is VERY clear on what he dose have authority on.

None of this matters man....everyone....the whole world... wants to re-open. People are suffering.

[earlinclaifornia]

6 minutes ago, ChouDoufu said:

is it?  he got my vote by absentee ballot to texas in the last election.  more of a vote for "not her" than for trump, though.  i had some hope he would be different, but in a good way.  i was disappointed.  i see him selling his soul to his donors, and we're still in afghanistan/iraq/syria/etc, and still regime-changing.  i was fooled thinking his blowhard, know-nothing public image was just an act.

 

can't see voting for a creature like biden, not even as a "not him" vote.  if it comes down to those two, think i'll just save myself the trouble of printing off the ballot and expense of an airmail stamp.  what difference, at that point, would it make?

Interesting that you are just the third poster to admit that during the last three years that I know of.

[WalkingOrders]

4 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2017/03/22/poll-trump-s-base-support-is-eroding

The CCP would probably go to the daily beast for info on Trumps base, but I sure don't. And FYI, turnout of Democat voters is what will make or break the Democrats. They still have a few more months to create an exciting Biden image!

[WalkingOrders]

12 minutes ago, ChouDoufu said:

is it?  he got my vote by absentee ballot to texas in the last election.  more of a vote for "not her" than for trump, though.  i had some hope he would be different, but in a good way.  i was disappointed.  i see him selling his soul to his donors, and we're still in afghanistan/iraq/syria/etc, and still regime-changing.  i was fooled thinking his blowhard, know-nothing public image was just an act.

 

can't see voting for a creature like biden, not even as a "not him" vote.  if it comes down to those two, think i'll just save myself the trouble of printing off the ballot and expense of an airmail stamp.  what difference, at that point, would it make?

Yeah the US Department of State needs to Tighten up on granting absentee citizenship. It's a Trojan Horse.

[ChouDoufu]

Just now, WalkingOrders said:

Yeah the US Department of State needs to Tighten up on granting absentee citizenship. It's a Trojan Horse.

are you joking, or do you not understand absentee ballots?  ????

[Eric Loh]

7 minutes ago, WalkingOrders said:

The CCP would probably go to the daily beast for info on Trumps base, but I sure don't. And FYI, turnout of Democat voters is what will make or break the Democrats. They still have a few more months to create an exciting Biden image!

I am just a bearer of good news. 
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/16/trump-maga-coronavirus-movement-130831

[WalkingOrders]

4 minutes ago, ChouDoufu said:

are you joking, or do you not understand absentee ballots?  ????

No I am not joking at all. I want to halt immigration, and greencards to Chinese citizens, except in very limited circumstance, and drive a huge stake up the CCP's fat ass! But yeah I understand perfectly absentee ballots. I use one myself.

[WalkingOrders]

7 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

I am just a bearer of good news. 
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/16/trump-maga-coronavirus-movement-130831

Politico.....yeah the same insanity makes the same circle-jerk liberal round of papers. Thats how they convinced themselves of Hillary's win last time. None of that bs makes Joe Biden more exciting. But it might convince Democrats they don't need to vote.... so yeah... keep spreading the news!

[ChouDoufu]

7 minutes ago, WalkingOrders said:

No I am not joking at all. I want to halt immigration, and greencards to Chinese citizens, except in very limited circumstance, and drive a huge stake up the CCP's fat ass! But yeah I understand perfectly absentee ballots. I use one myself.

cause now i'm confused.  i voted absentee, you said the state department needs to cut back on granting "absentee citizenship,"  (is that a thing?), and now you're talking about green cards.

 

green card holders can't vote, absentee or otherwise.

[GroveHillWanderer]

1 hour ago, sucit said:

There will be a lot of dems voting none of the above and even Trump. There wont be any republicans voting for Biden or abstaining. 

I wouldn't be so sure. According to a nationwide survey published in The Hill in January:

 

Quote

Republican voters are more drawn to former Vice President Joe Biden than to the rest of the candidates in the crowded Democratic presidential primary field, according to a new nationwide survey.

 

The Hill-HarrisX poll [...] shows that 33 percent of GOP respondents named Biden as the Democratic candidate who came the closest to sharing their political views.

Now, that doesn't mean those people would vote for Biden (that wasn't what they were being asked) but it shows that if there's any Democratic candidate that Republicans might be likely to vote for, it's Biden.

[earlinclaifornia]

23 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

I am just a bearer of good news. 
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/16/trump-maga-coronavirus-movement-130831

Right wing pollster has today finally caught up 

 

Poll	Results	Spread
President Trump Job Approval	Rasmussen Reports	Approve 43, Disapprove 56	Disapprove +13

[WalkingOrders]

4 minutes ago, ChouDoufu said:

cause now i'm confused.  i voted absentee, you said the state department needs to cut back on granting "absentee citizenship,"  (is that a thing?), and now you're talking about green cards.

 

green card holders can't vote, absentee or otherwise.

No but former Chinese citizens who live in China but are US citizens can vote, and before they become citizens they get green cards. 

 

So I wish to curtail the practice of bucking the US system being used by the CCP against the USA for their own benefit. American Citizens in name only, who reside in China, that practice must stop! And yeah look it up....California is filled with them.

[WalkingOrders]

6 minutes ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

I wouldn't be so sure. According to a nationwide survey published in The Hill in January:

 

Now, that doesn't mean those people would vote for Biden (that wasn't what they were being asked) but it shows that if there's any Democratic candidate that Republicans might be likely to vote for, it's Biden.

Honestly polls are meaningless. Especially now. Meaningless. Common sense though should tell anyone that Democrat Victory lay in getting out the vote....or they could put the word out not to worry because Trumps base will vote for Biden.....yeah good idea. Get the word out!