18 minutes ago, Yinn said:

Irony you call me deluded

 

1) you deluded believe you important, that “government” care what you do. If you billionaire, spy, gangster or politician, maybe. You?

 

2) you complain thailand “not testing”. Not true, thailand first country test outside China. 

Thisplan is for MORE free testing, now you complain? Again

Deluded.

 

 

There is a supposition that a differing point of view is seen as a sign of self importance . This is not the case and not the proper use of deluded.

To single someone out as "self important " because they go against the "mainstream beliefs" is a shaky standpoint in a debate. In the present type of debate it is also somewhat ironic.

The picture above is somewhat of a revelation in that we all generically become "the public".

Lets hope we all enjoy becoming a biological resource. (sarcasm)

Few comments:
* I work in IT and more specifically in BI and Data Analytics,
* Data Analytics can achieve a lot nowadays...Even more worrying when IT partnerships and contractors involved come from a country where Democracy and Human Rights aren't a priority (understatement),
* Interestingly, the PDPA (Thailand Personal Data Protection Act) has been, recently, postponed (cf. articles on main news sources),
* About Thai posters on Thai Visa Forum: not their faults, being born and raised in Thailand exposed them to local customs and education system. Their "ways of thinking" have been formatted (adhere to the system, don't question or challenge the authority(ies)).

That's bad, really bad

44 minutes ago, Yinn said:

Charlie have a smart phone? 

If yes the “government” know where you already 

I can find the video but years ago Jeremy Clarkson drove around while a policeman or mobile phone guy  with a radio told him exactly where he was and which direction he was going. Just by phone signal triangulation.

Oh and forget all that stay on the line stuff for caller ID tracking. Takes about 7 seconds.

It is a control thing and you can bet your info will never be safe guarded and will be open to be stolen, analyzed or even secretly sold. It is a complete farce and a loss of freedom in many ways just in order to get a better hold on everyone to track you. Getting to be so much like the snooping control freak China now. Maybe this was one of China's few reasons for allowing the virus to get out. Economy and better control. You can probably guarantee the foreigners will be all put into a different data base and snooped on repeatedly. I am sure most the common Thai are not going to be on the radar being snooped on like the outsiders, but the young Thai kids and Thai people who do not like the military government who voiced and opinion and voted not for them will be probably be on the list as well.

Sad day yet again for this country.

COVID-19 APP WILL TRACK BUSINESS CUSTOMERS, GOV’T SAYS

 

May 15, 2020 10:30 am
Taweesin said the Thai Chana app would serve 70 to 80 percent of the people who use mobile phones.

The application will facilitate the government’s attempts to quickly track people infected with COVID-19 and those in close contact with them.

 

https://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/crimecourtscalamity/2020/05/15/covid-19-app-will-track-business-customers-govt-says/

51 minutes ago, Fab5BKK said:

Few comments:
* I work in IT and more specifically in BI and Data Analytics,
* Data Analytics can achieve a lot nowadays...Even more worrying when IT partnerships and contractors involved come from a country where Democracy and Human Rights aren't a priority (understatement),
* Interestingly, the PDPA (Thailand Personal Data Protection Act) has been, recently, postponed (cf. articles on main news sources),
* About Thai posters on Thai Visa Forum: not their faults, being born and raised in Thailand exposed them to local customs and education system. Their "ways of thinking" have been formatted (adhere to the system, don't question or challenge the authority(ies)).

That's bad, really bad

totally agree

 

people like Yin don't realise they would have more freedoms and rights in the UK (for example) as a foreigner than they have in their own country, in fact they would be treated as equals, yes some things they couldn't do like vote in elections and stuff but that also disappears once nationalised.

 

freedoms we have experienced all our lives 

25 minutes ago, SkyFax said:

Taweesin said the Thai Chana app

Thai China app is closer to the mark and is likely where it came from

27 minutes ago, SkyFax said:

COVID-19 APP WILL TRACK BUSINESS CUSTOMERS, GOV’T SAYS

 

May 15, 2020 10:30 am
Taweesin said the Thai Chana app would serve 70 to 80 percent of the people who use mobile phones.

The application will facilitate the government’s attempts to quickly track people infected with COVID-19 and those in close contact with them.

 

https://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/crimecourtscalamity/2020/05/15/covid-19-app-will-track-business-customers-govt-says/

Ironically that piece of news is issued by Xinhua !

13 minutes ago, cmsally said:

Ironically that piece of news is issued by Xinhua !

My mobile not smart

 

2 hours ago, smedly said:

the alternative for the same effect would be to issue everyone with a QR code Id that must be scanned everywhere you go -

An easier alternative would be to have the QR codes tattooed on everyone's forehead. 

 

After all, these QR codes have a nice futuristic design, very fashionable if you ask me, and such a policy would provide work for the many tattoo parlors that grace the cities. 

20 minutes ago, cmsally said:

Ironically that piece of news is issued by Xinhua !

Which is not surprising in the least or the app to be renamed Thai China App. My opinion is this is all world master minded by China and the Thai military are playing in on it.

This is straight out of Nanjing playbook. Rules there are draconian but seems to have been effective. A Japanese film maker that lives there has made a video on what it's like to live there and what precautions they took. Including how quarantine of his colleagues looked like, what steps they took in office, how zones were sealed off... When you see news reports from other parts of the World, it is clear many are copying what Nanjing did. But just bits of it, not the whole thing, as most outside China would not have accepted that kind of a lockdown.

3 hours ago, Yinn said:

Why farang so anti help together? 

Not want wear mask. Not want stop go bar. Not want do this for victory. 

 

Virus not care human rights. Why worry if government know where you? You a secret spy? They not care you cornishcarlos. For what? You imagine the government care you. 555555

 

Important thing is win corona= normal life again. 

Please work together.

This sort of app is not in Vietnam or Malaysia, or even China as far as I know.   If a place is too crowded, I will just go elsewhere.  Why do you need an app for that?  Why do you need government help for that?  Are you a supporter of the current government? 

Well regardless of where KhaoSod picked up the dispatch it seems from their report Taweesin recognizes that  20-30% of Thais do not own (smart) mobile phones. What happens remains to be seen if you try to enter a registered commercial site without a smart phone.

6 minutes ago, SkyFax said:

Well regardless of where KhaoSod picked up the dispatch it seems from their report Taweesin recognizes that  20-30% of Thais do not own (smart) mobile phones. What happens remains to be seen if you try to enter a registered commercial site without a smart phone.

I can answer that since a friend of mine just entered Terminal 21 in Pattaya.

 

Not having the app, he was asked to write his name and phone number in a big blank book.

 

I would rather go with this option since it is much less invasive than the app.

 

Edited May 17, 20206 yr by Brunolem

1 hour ago, smedly said:

freedoms we have experienced all our lives 

Yet here you are in Thailand having merrily relinquished all those freedoms except the one to get on a pedestal and lecture.

 

Relax, it's an app that tracks only which shop you are in. And the rest of the time? Do you carry a smartphone? Then the government knows your coordinates to within meters every second of the day. And can send a black helicopter to pick you up in minutes depending on who you called and what you said (which they know as well).

 

But like somebody above said nobody gives a rats about us so take it easy.

Edited May 17, 20206 yr by Why Me

3 hours ago, CharlieH said:

The longer all this is dragging on, the more "for your benefit" we are being fed, the more suspicious I am becoming.

starts to look more and more like control freak China

53 minutes ago, cmsally said:

1 hour ago, SkyFax said:

COVID-19 APP WILL TRACK BUSINESS CUSTOMERS, GOV’T SAYS

 

May 15, 2020 10:30 am
Taweesin said the Thai Chana app would serve 70 to 80 percent of the people who use mobile phones.

The application will facilitate the government’s attempts to quickly track people infected with COVID-19 and those in close contact with them.

 

https://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/crimecourtscalamity/2020/05/15/covid-19-app-will-track-business-customers-govt-says/

Ironically that piece of news is issued by Xinhua !

Yes, Khaosod English which is quite critical of the present government has recently been publishing some Xinhua articles.

I know Xinhua offer their 'articles' free as part of China's attempt to influence the media, but it's still odd. I've noticed that it seems ironic too.

7 minutes ago, Brunolem said:

I can answer that since a friend of mine just entered Terminal 21 in Pattaya.

 

Not having the app, he was asked to write his name and phone number in a big blank book.

 

I would rather go with this option since it is much less invasive than the app.

 

Jane Doe  099 000 9911   

45 minutes ago, Brunolem said:

An easier alternative would be to have the QR codes tattooed on everyone's forehead. 

 

After all, these QR codes have a nice futuristic design, very fashionable if you ask me, and such a policy would provide work for the many tattoo parlors that grace the cities. 

I always wondered about those barcodes tattooed on the back of some peoples necks...

 

 

3 minutes ago, bluesofa said:

Yes, Khaosod English which is quite critical of the present government has recently been publishing some Xinhua articles.

I know Xinhua offer their 'articles' free as part of China's attempt to influence the media, but it's still odd. I've noticed that it seems ironic too.

Actually not that surprising :

https://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/2019/07/25/khaosod-signs-partnership-with-chinas-xinhua/

2 minutes ago, cmsally said:

Jane Doe  099 000 9911   

you must be a mind reader as I just completed the form using similar name and #

2 minutes ago, NightSky said:

I always wondered about those barcodes tattooed on the back of some peoples necks...

I thought that was the 'best before' date.

3 hours ago, Yinn said:

Important thing is win corona= normal life again. 

Please work together.

 

Why don't you work together to open the borders?

 

You can not "win" corona. Corona is here and is just a fact of life like every other disease.

 

Important thing is for everyone of working age to get the virus and recover, thereby developing antibodies. Only then can we have a normal life. And that will come a lot faster if we stop these stupid lockdown rules and open the borders back up.

 

This "win corona" religion has got to stop before the entire world is driven into abject poverty.  You are free to be a hermit and cower in a corner if you want. That is your choice. I will not be signing up to your dogma however. 

I understand the fear of giving too much away although let’s think about this..

 

this tracking system isn’t an app on your phone, it’s only recording places where your phone checks in.

 

Im sure there are apps on your phone tracking your every move and conversation already to send to Facebook, google, microsoft, apple and amazon.

2 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

you must be a mind reader as I just completed the form using similar name and #

Presumably yours was John !! Never mind they will just assume we are related!

Hope not needed for short-time rooms. lol

2 minutes ago, cmsally said:

Actually not that surprising :

https://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/2019/07/25/khaosod-signs-partnership-with-chinas-xinhua/

looks more and more like Deja Vu..... as I said on a previous post

4 hours ago, Thaiwrath said:

I can see this being more of a Thai Failure, once people see their every move is being traced by the authorities, and refuse to take part.

I see it along the lines of the other apps the government has created that have failed, or do not work properly for many people, or do not work at all, or are only in Thai, so no one but a Thai can use it......who the heck knows. I will not be doing it either....

3 minutes ago, cmsally said:

Actually not that surprising :

https://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/2019/07/25/khaosod-signs-partnership-with-chinas-xinhua/

OK.

The blurb about the partnership above includes the sort of thing you'd expect:

“Most Thai media have been relying on external sources to tell stories about China,” said Teeranai, who’s also a regular contributor to Khaosod’s “China Watch” section. “Now Matichon Group can let the Chinese people themselves tell their own stories with their own voices.”

 

What seem odd is Khoasod English are using Xinhua for Thai news articles.

There was another Thai news article they published from Xinhua a week or so back - I can't remember what it was offhand.