Trump vows to end protests; tear gas fired on protesters near White House

[Throatwobbler]

If anyone wants to see the difference between the way whites and blacks are treated then watch this video.

Two black college kids attacked by police in Atlanta

If you want to see the difference go to 1.48 and you will see the white girl driving a car lean out of the window and smile and wave for the cameras. When she does that look at what is starting to happen to the 2 black kids behind her.

 

Edited June 2, 2020 by Throatwobbler

[heybruce]

10 hours ago, CorpusChristie said:

Threatening to use violence to stop the protests can hardly be considered to be inciting the protests

Complete opposite actually, had Trump stated that he wouldn't use force, that would have incited the protestors 

Trump employed violence against peaceful protesters in order to clear a path to a church for a photo op.  He also encouraged police brutality https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/07/29/trump-tells-law-enforcement-dont-too-nice-suspects/522220001/  and ridiculed Colin Kaepernick for peaceful protest against police violence.

 

Combine this with Trump's constant assault on the press and it's clear that Trump is the enemy of the First Amendment.  Not surprising, the First Amendment is a far better guard against tyranny than the Second Amendment, and Trump is definitely a tyrant wannabe.

[EVENKEEL]

4 hours ago, Throatwobbler said:

And you just encourage racism everywhere you go. Your earlier post when you were enraged and insinuated that no black man's life was worth that of a cop shows that. You applaud racism.

Again with the race baiting, but this is what so many rely upon. You don't believe some of the cops who are killed were black as well. I believe the good citizens of Chicago should be protesting about the 100's of black men murdered by other blacks each year. No, no we don't want to talk about that.

 

Just like we don't hear mentioned that one of the 4 cops involved with Floyd is black.

[jcsmith]

His speech told you everything you need to know about him. After refusing to give public statements and hiding in a bunker he gasses peaceful protestors, has rubber bullets shot into the crowd, then gives a speech where he promises to "dominate" the streets. Then he walks to a church for a photo op. This guy is not a leader. He's a wannabe authoritarian.

[simple1]

12 hours ago, herwin1234 said:

grievances doesnt give ANYONE the right to burn and loot, to shoot and kill, to burn and destroy. Its pure mob violence. How about the majority of other ppl the citizens who are terrorized by these riots? Riots are NOT protests. A true leader wouldnt wait but restore order in the cities. Arrest everybody and lock them up in a football stadium. And shop owners should patrol their shops with a gun in their hand and protect their shops.  

trump adds fuel to the fire as he has done for years. trump makes statements to try address social divisions and within the same speech or immediately afterwards encourages further division - one step forward, two step back is not behaviour of a leader / healer. It is crystal clear trump is unfit to represent the Office of the President of the USA.

[metisdead]

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[simple1]

1 hour ago, jcsmith said:

His speech told you everything you need to know about him. After refusing to give public statements and hiding in a bunker he gasses peaceful protestors, has rubber bullets shot into the crowd, then gives a speech where he promises to "dominate" the streets. Then he walks to a church for a photo op. This guy is not a leader. He's a wannabe authoritarian.

Plenty of Christian leaders condemning trump's use of religious props. No doubt the evangelicals will continue to support him, but will trump's tactic backfire with trying to gain more votes from others in the religious community?

Edited June 3, 2020 by simple1

[Phulublub]

3 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

Again with the race baiting, but this is what so many rely upon. You don't believe some of the cops who are killed were black as well. I believe the good citizens of Chicago should be protesting about the 100's of black men murdered by other blacks each year. No, no we don't want to talk about that.

 

Just like we don't hear mentioned that one of the 4 cops involved with Floyd is black.

Which one is black?

 

Tou Thao, J Alexander Kueng, or Thomas K Lane?

 

PH

[EVENKEEL]

51 minutes ago, Phulublub said:

Which one is black?

 

Tou Thao, J Alexander Kueng, or Thomas K Lane?

 

PH

Alexander Kueng

[The Barmbeker]

16 hours ago, CorpusChristie said:

Why do Black people need to riot?

As you could clearly see, IF you were really looking, you would notice that PEACEFULL DEMONSTRATIONS are held by black and white people TOGETHER!

And the riots and the looting (which is by far the minority of things happening) are also done by whites and blacks!

But that would not fit your agenda, so you kindly overlook that!

By the way: you were not answering my question!

[stevenl]

60,000 people were peacefully protesting in Houston. The Houston police chief made strong comments about this beforehand and personally joined the protest. So yes, with common sense this can be solved.

[EVENKEEL]

17 hours ago, lannarebirth said:

 

Because you would be in fear of your life or in fear of losing your property? I've got a shotgun I haven't fired it in 33 years but I can't imagine shooting someone over personal property. Maybe if they threatened my wife or children.

When they cross the threshold of my abode damned skippy lead will fly. You think they're breaking in to make a pot of tea??

[Opl]

5 minutes ago, stevenl said:

60,000 people were peacefully protesting in Houston. The Houston police chief made strong comments about this beforehand and personally joined the protest. So yes, with common sense this can be solved.

 

Washington, (Dustin Chambers - Reuters)

[CorpusChristie]

13 minutes ago, The Barmbeker said:

As you could clearly see, IF you were really looking, you would notice that PEACEFULL DEMONSTRATIONS are held by black and white people TOGETHER!

And the riots and the looting (which is by far the minority of things happening) are also done by whites and blacks!

But that would not fit your agenda, so you kindly overlook that!

By the way: you were not answering my question!

Yes, that it quite obvious , so obvious, that it doesn't need to be said .

You stated that I have an agenda, can you tell me what my agenda is ?

You still haven't told me what "Whites get everything by default in the USA" , is referring  too 

What do Whites get by default in the USA ?

[The Barmbeker]

14 hours ago, NordicDemon said:

Generally speaking, that might be true. However, statistics from the Department of Justice show that White people, more often than any other group in the U.S, are shot to death by the police. From 2017 until 2020, about 40% of those shot to death by the police were White, about 22% were Black, about 16% were Hispanics and about 22% were others. 

...and now, put that in perspective of how many white people there are in the USA and how many black people...

See the problem?

[The Barmbeker]

Some of the world's greatest leaders have retreated to bunkers in times of crisis...

[The Barmbeker]

9 hours ago, Throatwobbler said:

If anyone wants to see the difference between the way whites and blacks are treated then watch this video.

Two black college kids attacked by police in Atlanta

If you want to see the difference go to 1.48 and you will see the white girl driving a car lean out of the window and smile and wave for the cameras. When she does that look at what is starting to happen to the 2 black kids behind her.

 

What the actual ....?

[Throatwobbler]

4 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

Again with the race baiting, but this is what so many rely upon. You don't believe some of the cops who are killed were black as well. I believe the good citizens of Chicago should be protesting about the 100's of black men murdered by other blacks each year. No, no we don't want to talk about that.

 

Just like we don't hear mentioned that one of the 4 cops involved with Floyd is black.

So are you saying that there is no systemic racism in the US police force?

[CorpusChristie]

11 minutes ago, tomazbodner said:

Apparently not, according to this guy:

 

That guy wasn't making a factual statement , its a video from 2016 and they guy involved get fired

[spidermike007]

I think young people who are on social media a lot are getting more real time info on police killings and they're not getting the watered down official versions that their parents are getting on the evening news (he didn't die from asphyxiation, he died from high blood pressure, etc). So if someone is not closely following the endless police violence then it may be hard for them to wrap their heads around the anger and frustration and youthful "let's mess stuff up" response. 
This brings up some interesting points about policing policy...

 

https://theintercept.com/2020/05/29/george-floyd-minneapolis-police-reform/?utm_medium=email&utm_source=The Intercept Newsletter

 

From a good friend in LA, who was out in the streets, participating in one of the many peaceful protests: I've been out to some,  friends have too. I think it's a lot of factors but young people are fed up, everyone is out of work,  anxious about getting evicted, not sure how they're going to pay bills,  etc, stir crazy from Covid, and they're watching the police and white supremacists murder black people on video around the country, from Amad in Georgia. The young paramedic (I think?) In Kentucky and  Floyd in Minnesota. It's the perfect recipe for an uprising. I just hope some positive things come of it. The US needs a good therapist lol! I understand people have a visceral response to the looting,  it's scary,  they don't like it. But compared to the big companies that got the majority of PPP money,  Trump's corporate tax write offs, the real looting is happening right under our noses.

 

 

[spidermike007]

12 hours ago, ChouDoufu said:

 

who exactly are "these kind" of guys?

 

i spent a lotta time in texas, new mexico, arizona, idaho.  met plenty of states rights, 2nd amendment and militia guys.  a fair number of guys with "military experience", as in records clerks and coffee nco's, not so many combat vets.  mostly a bunch of grocery clerks doing army cosplay in the woods.

There is an awful lot of that in the US. Basically juvenile minds, carrying serious weapons, which make them feel like really big dogs. And they rarely like people of color, totally buy into the fake narrative that Latinos are taking away our jobs, and blame everyone but themselves, and their own, on the problems in their lives, the issues in their community, and the plague facing the nation. 

 

As a centrist democrat, I have no issues with gun ownership. But, limit it to three per family, or household. Nobody needs anything more than a pistol, a rifle (for hunting) and a shotgun in the house. Anything more than that is overkill, and perhaps a desperate attempt to fill a void of masculinity that is seriously lacking.

[spidermike007]

8 hours ago, heybruce said:

Trump employed violence against peaceful protesters in order to clear a path to a church for a photo op.  He also encouraged police brutality https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/07/29/trump-tells-law-enforcement-dont-too-nice-suspects/522220001/  and ridiculed Colin Kaepernick for peaceful protest against police violence.

 

Combine this with Trump's constant assault on the press and it's clear that Trump is the enemy of the First Amendment.  Not surprising, the First Amendment is a far better guard against tyranny than the Second Amendment, and Trump is definitely a tyrant wannabe.

So he could hold up a bible and pander to his evangelical base. Does anyone actually think he has ever read the good book? Does anyone think he has ever spent even five minutes in prayer, meditation, contemplation or introspection? In his lifetime? This man is the polar opposite of a spiritual man, in everything he does, everything he says, and everything he represents. 

[J Town]

What a waste! THOUSANDS have been arrested when they only needed to arrest four.

[ravip]

10 hours ago, Throatwobbler said:

If anyone wants to see the difference between the way whites and blacks are treated then watch this video.

Two black college kids attacked by police in Atlanta

If you want to see the difference go to 1.48 and you will see the white girl driving a car lean out of the window and smile and wave for the cameras. When she does that look at what is starting to happen to the 2 black kids behind her.

 

All this time the BiB were getting ALL the flak.

Now they look like innocent infants, compared to these morons acting like terrorists.

(Like an iceberg, 2/3 of the real thing is hidden below - Life in La la land is not how its written in the fairy-tales)

[tomazbodner]

57 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

That guy wasn't making a factual statement , its a video from 2016 and they guy involved get fired

Yes, video is 4 years old. Are you trying to say George Floyd was the first and only black person killed by police in US? So whatever happened more than a week ago is completely irrelevant to you?

 

Racism is cancer of America and has been for many years.

[chokrai]

Just watched a Video of a retired Black police captain get shot in the back of the head by looters stealing TV's. Can't bear to read anymore posts from Liberal/Democrats you people sicken me. Enjoy the world you created. 

[simple1]

8 minutes ago, chokrai said:

Just watched a Video of a retired Black police captain get shot in the back of the head by looters stealing TV's. Can't bear to read anymore posts from Liberal/Democrats you people sicken me. Enjoy the world you created. 

Utterly ridiculous accusation. No one party are responsible for crime in the US. Fortunately crime overall in the US has been dropping for a number of years in the major cities, which are generally governed by Dems. Unfortunate, currently the US has a President continually inflaming social tensions, Have to wait and see what motivated the murder of the African American retired police captain, personally I would assume gang crime related.

[Neeranam]

On 6/2/2020 at 10:43 AM, Jingthing said:

Hopefully. 

But no guarantees. 

His strategy is to suppress voting. 

Very dark times indeed made 100 times worse with the worse president in American history. 

If he had an ounce of decency he would just resign.

 

One of the better ones in my opinion. Are you seriously saying Bush Jr was better?

I wouldn't be surprised if you though Hilary would have been better.

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[ChouDoufu]

1 hour ago, CorpusChristie said:

You are comparing Trump to Hitler and wanting Trump to commit suicide ?

why is that a problem?  the poster was NOT inciting violence.

 

they were both protected in their bunkers spouting nonsense about winning and military movements while their people were dying.  the main difference is the man with the funny moustache at least was a combat veteran.

 

i don't see a lot of complaints when people post we should nuke beijing or assassinate kim/assad/khomeini, or send a flock of cruise missiles to the enemy of the day.