Facebook takes down Trump ads over 'organized hate' policy

[dundee48]

1 hour ago, farang51 said:

I think, what they are protesting is the bad things done by people now.

Such as?

Edited June 19, 2020 by dundee48

[DoctorG]

2 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

No I think removing those who violate policies against spreading hate from a social media site is fine. 

and then they came ......  for you

[heybruce]

4 hours ago, dundee48 said:

Rarely,apparently,,primarily.Hilariously.

Prove me wrong:  Give examples of the red triangle being used by Antifa in the US.

 

If the Trump re-election campaign had wanted a symbol associated with Antifa to drum up support in the US, it would have used a symbol associated with Antifa in the US.  Instead they used a symbol associated with the Nazis.  Who are they trying to appeal to?

[OZinPattaya]

9 minutes ago, heybruce said:

Prove me wrong:  Give examples of the red triangle being used by Antifa in the US.

 

If the Trump re-election campaign had wanted a symbol associated with Antifa to drum up support in the US, it would have used a symbol associated with Antifa in the US.  Instead they used a symbol associated with the Nazis.  Who are they trying to appeal to?

Call me ignorant, but this is literally the first time I've ever heard of an inverted triangle--or what the F is it?-- being a symbol of the Nazi's. You guys seriously need to find some new material. You do understand, right, that the hand-gesture "A-okay" is now considered a "racist" gesture?

 

[simple1]

14 minutes ago, OZinPattaya said:

Never said the inverted triangle was not a Nazi symbol, only that it is hardly a well-known symbol, <SNIP>

The symbol and others used in Nazi concentration camps is well known to those who have taken an interest in Nazism and the holocaust. Seems so far you haven't bothered to inform yourself whereas many have.

[Odysseus123]

The symbol is very well known by those who have chosen to study WW2 and Germany's role in it.

[RJRS1301]

22 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

And he would be right. If you read the article you would understand that antifa are allowed to use the inverted red triangle, yet the President of the United States is not. Double standards on steroids. No logic at all in this decision, and leads to the inevitable conclusion that facebook is interfering with the 2020 election. Platform vs publisher? Not much doubt about that now is there.

Are they using it on faecesbook though?

An organisation can use the symbol should they choose to in their own material i guess, but on another platform , another matter.

 

[metisdead]

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[heybruce]

2 hours ago, OZinPattaya said:

Call me ignorant, but this is literally the first time I've ever heard of an inverted triangle--or what the F is it?-- being a symbol of the Nazi's. You guys seriously need to find some new material. You do understand, right, that the hand-gesture "A-okay" is now considered a "racist" gesture?

 

It's the first time any people have heard of the inverted triangle, but among those who have it is clearly better known as a fascist symbol than an Antifa symbol. 

 

So I keep getting back to the question, why did Trump's re-election campaign use it?

[Bluespunk]

4 hours ago, DoctorG said:

and then they came ......  for you

Oh dear, hyperbole.

[Damual Travesty]

Long long after Trump is gone. Facebook is still going to be here. So my worry is certainly not about Trump.

[Damual Travesty]

1 hour ago, heybruce said:

It's the first time any people have heard of the inverted triangle, but among those who have it is clearly better known as a fascist symbol than an Antifa symbol. 

 

So I keep getting back to the question, why did Trump's re-election campaign use it?

You know, If I was living in the USA right now, I would be very worried. I would have already purchased lots of ammunition and made sure I have a handgun and a rifle ready. I would be extremely concerned if I was lower middle class and living in a a typical mixed raced neighbourhood. I would not trust my neighbours. I would be searching best states to move to to avoid strife. I would definitely be researching how to find work OUT of any city I was living in. All of this is really sad as no such racial divide seemed to be apparent until very recently. I think all of this has been media driven and I do mean all of it. I am not even going to mention politics. But as someone trying to put my shoes into the average America family living there those would be my thoughts right now. Again, very sad. All of this will lead to increased very frightening levels of violence if its not nipped at the bud.

[stevenl]

8 minutes ago, Damual Travesty said:

You know, If I was living in the USA right now, I would be very worried. I would have already purchased lots of ammunition and made sure I have a handgun and a rifle ready. I would be extremely concerned if I was lower middle class and living in a a typical mixed raced neighbourhood. I would not trust my neighbours. I would be searching best states to move to to avoid strife. I would definitely be researching how to find work OUT of any city I was living in. All of this is really sad as no such racial divide seemed to be apparent until very recently. I think all of this has been media driven and I do mean all of it. I am not even going to mention politics. But as someone trying to put my shoes into the average America family living there those would be my thoughts right now. Again, very sad. All of this will lead to increased very frightening levels of violence if its not nipped at the bud.

Blaming the media for reporting what is happening.

[DoctorG]

1 hour ago, Bluespunk said:

Oh dear, hyperbole.

You do always need to have the last word so, your turn.

[stevenl]

7 minutes ago, DoctorG said:

You do always need to have the last word so, your turn.

A valid comment was made, and all you have to say is a personal attack.

[DoctorG]

Ganging up on me to try to get me deplatformed again is it?

[Phoenix Rising]

1 hour ago, DoctorG said:

Ganging up on me to try to get me deplatformed again is it?

Deplatformed?

Again?

Care to elaborate? And how does ganging up on you achieve this (whatever it is)?

[Phoenix Rising]

10 hours ago, dundee48 said:

Rarely,apparently,,primarily.Hilariously.

It would help if anyone but yourself understood your post.

 

Note to self; Don't post drunk.

[neverere]

On 6/19/2020 at 9:59 AM, schlog said:

Thanks for posting. I hope everyone can now recognize the difference.

[jinners]

On 6/19/2020 at 8:29 AM, TopDeadSenter said:

And he would be right. If you read the article you would understand that antifa are allowed to use the inverted red triangle, yet the President of the United States is not. Double standards on steroids. No logic at all in this decision, and leads to the inevitable conclusion that facebook is interfering with the 2020 election. Platform vs publisher? Not much doubt about that now is there.

Trump and Attorney General William Barr have repeatedly singled out antifa as a major instigator of recent unrest during nationwide anti-racism protests, with little evidence.

 

Seriously???

[jinners]

On 6/19/2020 at 8:43 AM, darksidedog said:

 

 

So, it is standard Facebook policy rather than interference with the election, a point you seem to be deliberately glossing over to try to make a pitiful political point. Again!

I add that when you use highly questionable symbols or rhetoric, you should expect to be called out for it, when it crosses the line of common decency.

I think is more a matter of you believing what you want to

[Sujo]

1 hour ago, jinners said:

Trump and Attorney General William Barr have repeatedly singled out antifa as a major instigator of recent unrest during nationwide anti-racism protests, with little evidence.

 

Seriously???

Yes seriously. By june 10 there were 51 protesters arrested. Antifa members arrested =0.

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2020/06/10/51-protesters-facing-federal-charges-yet-no-sign-of-antifa-involvement/

[stevenl]

1 hour ago, jinners said:

I think is more a matter of you believing what you want to

Yes, you have made that very clear with the post before this one. Believe what you want, facts don't matter.

[Sujo]

1 hour ago, jinners said:

I think is more a matter of you believing what you want to

well he is stating a fact. If you think otherwise then i think i know who is believing what they want.

[CorpusChristie]

23 minutes ago, Sujo said:

Yes seriously. By june 10 there were 51 protesters arrested. Antifa members arrested =0.

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2020/06/10/51-protesters-facing-federal-charges-yet-no-sign-of-antifa-involvement/

Dont think that theres an actual group called Antifa is there ?

Isnt it various similar individual  groups all under the same umbrella ?

[Sujo]

2 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

Dont think that theres an actual group called Antifa is there ?

Isnt it various similar individual  groups all under the same umbrella ?

Of course there is, or is trump lying yet again when he says its a terrorist organisation.

[Damual Travesty]

2 minutes ago, Sujo said:

Of course there is, or is trump lying yet again when he says its a terrorist organisation.

If you hang out with like minded people who like to take pot shots at the police, loot stores, frighten people in their homes and otherwise cause violence and mayhem - regardless of what you think you want to call yourself, you need to be arrested - and jailed for as long as possible. If you are proved to be involved in a leadership capacity in such activities the sentence needs to be longer,  perhaps lifetime, so that the United States streets become safe. Anyone who does not support the streets of the USA being safe is my enemy. This is common sense.

[Morch]

13 hours ago, Damual Travesty said:

You know, If I was living in the USA right now, I would be very worried. I would have already purchased lots of ammunition and made sure I have a handgun and a rifle ready. I would be extremely concerned if I was lower middle class and living in a a typical mixed raced neighbourhood. I would not trust my neighbours. I would be searching best states to move to to avoid strife. I would definitely be researching how to find work OUT of any city I was living in. All of this is really sad as no such racial divide seemed to be apparent until very recently. I think all of this has been media driven and I do mean all of it. I am not even going to mention politics. But as someone trying to put my shoes into the average America family living there those would be my thoughts right now. Again, very sad. All of this will lead to increased very frightening levels of violence if its not nipped at the bud.

 

If you were. But you're not. And I doubt you could support your imaginary actions representing actual trends with most, or even many, Americans. Would be nice to know what "all of this" encompasses, but I'd take a wild guess it includes anything uncomfortable for Trump at a given moment. 

[spiekerjozef]

Zuckerberg probably has to pay more tax this year...