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I remember reading the problem is with the quality requirements for medical oxygen. While both oxygen used in welding and medical oxygen are made in same places, the quality controls on the medical containers, etc, make it far more expensive. In fact the oxygen in the welding bottles is oftern exactly the same. 

 

So, lower the quality requirement a bit. And don't open the acetylene valve.

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4 hours ago, Krataiboy said:

Do you count the US's celebrated pandemic guru Dr Anthony Fauci as one of the brigade? He is on record of saying the consequences could be no worse than a severe flu pandemic. 

 

Not that this should make us complacent. Flu typically kills up to 650 million people a year, according to the CDC. But these regular culls do not typically lead to politicians to run around like headless chickens, savaging citizens rights and freedoms and destroying their domestic economies.

 

I'm old enough to remember that the Hong Kong flu epidemic of 1968 killed nearly twice as many Brits as has this latest corononavirus (evening using the Government's grossly exaggerated mortality figures). Yet hardly anyone turned a hair and life went on as normal.

 

Could there possibly be a hidden agenda behind the relentless COVID-19 fear-mongering by so-called "experts", politicians and the mass media? Nah, obviously just a coincidence that the World Economic Forum has come out swinging, demanding a total "reset" of the global economic and financial system.

 

 

Can you check what Dr Anthony Fauci said? The only quote I can attribute to him on this is: 

 

"Fauci said COVID-19 is at least 10 times “more lethal” than the seasonal flu" Although I appreciate he may have updated his opinion on that but I can't find anything?

 

Also your flu figures are off by a rather large figure, its not 650,000,000 (million) people killed a year but between 290,000 - 650,000 (Thousand) although the average mortality rate from flu related deaths per year is 389,000 (Thousand)

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1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said:

Can you check what Dr Anthony Fauci said? The only quote I can attribute to him on this is: 

 

"Fauci said COVID-19 is at least 10 times “more lethal” than the seasonal flu" Although I appreciate he may have updated his opinion on that but I can't find anything?

 

Also your flu figures are off by a rather large figure, its not 650,000,000 (million) people killed a year but between 290,000 - 650,000 (Thousand) although the average mortality rate from flu related deaths per year is 389,000 (Thousand)

Thanks for pointing out the arithmetical typo. I'll be losing my sense of smell and taste next!

 

Fauci's flu reference can be found here:

https://www.globalresearch.ca/dr-fauci-covid-19-may-turn-out-like-bad-flu-season/5708222

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10 hours ago, talahtnut said:

Using dubious WHO figures above the

mortality rate as a percentage is 0.52%.

Still not much different from seasonal Flu.

 

Rubbish for the seasonal flu you have a vaccine for Covid-19 you have not and it might take

years if ever we get an vaccine. I n the meantime millions will die.

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7 minutes ago, Krataiboy said:

Yep got that, strange how on the 11th March he states: "COVID-19 is at least 10 times “more lethal” than the seasonal flu"

 

Then on the 26th March just 2 weeks later states: "May Turn Out to be Like a Bad Flu Season”

 

This is one guy we can surely trust. I have no idea which of his statements are correct so will go to the middle ground.

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Just now, Meat Pie 47 said:

Rubbish for the seasonal flu you have a vaccine for Covid-19 you have not and it might take

years if ever we get an vaccine. I n the meantime millions will die.

Must be something in the meat pie.

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Just now, Bkk Brian said:

Yep got that, strange how on the 11th March he states: "COVID-19 is at least 10 times “more lethal” than the seasonal flu"

 

Then on the 26th March just 2 weeks later states: "May Turn Out to be Like a Bad Flu Season”

 

This is one guy we can surely trust. I have no idea which of his statements are correct so will go to the middle ground.

 

This is one guy we can surely trust.

 

Are you kidding? The man says different things out of the opposite sides of his mouth at the same time. And he's a fan of Bill Gates and his plans to vaccinate the whole world.

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6 minutes ago, Krataiboy said:

 

This is one guy we can surely trust.

 

Are you kidding? The man says different things out of the opposite sides of his mouth at the same time. And he's a fan of Bill Gates and his plans to vaccinate the whole world.

I was being sarcastic..........no I don't trust him

 

However I do have great respect for Bill Gates

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5 hours ago, mrfill said:

Crikey - if flu kills 650 million a year then in 10 years 6.5 billion will have died i.e. about the entire planet.

The figure you are looking for is between 290000 and 650000. Even with all the strict controls, lockdowns and quarantines, covid-19 has taken 480,000 and is still rising at 5000 a day. The 1968 flu was met with no lockdown, no controls and.. hey presto 80000 deaths. If nothing had been done this time the figures this time would have been at least comparable.

But I don't think there is a hidden agenda. Possibly more just opportunistic. A chance to get rid of western countries colossal debts by economic change, then back to the same old same old. No great 'new dawn'...

Apologies for the flu stats ricket. However, your speculation that UK deaths from COVID would have been comparable to the 1968 figure is not supported by the evidence.

 

By the time Boris locked the country down, deaths had already passed their peak and were declining fast, despite efforts to massage them back to more scary levels.

 

You may not see a new global economic dawn coming, but the WEF has opened the curtains to give us a glimpse.

https://www.weforum.org/great-reset

 

And at the risk of inviting that old put-down "conspiracy theorist" (again), I suggest this analysis of what is really going on is at least worthy of consideration.

https://www.corbettreport.com/interview-1549-new-world-next-week-with-james-evan-pilato/

 

 

 

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14 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

I was being sarcastic..........no I don't trust him

 

However I do have great respect for Bill Gates

He seems to be one of those love-him-or-hate-him guys. But how many of his admirers and critics actually know much about the man and his mission
 

If you have the time and interest, I thoroughly recommend this series: 

https://www.corbettreport.com/gates/

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2 hours ago, Krataiboy said:

By the time Boris locked the country down, deaths had already passed their peak and were declining fast, despite efforts to massage them back to more scary levels.

As has been already objected to you by another poster in another thread, this not true. The lockdown started on March 23rd and the case peak occured around April 13th.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/coronavirus-uk-lockdown-peak-deaths-cases-covid-19-cases-chart-stats-a9502196.html

The death peak occured on April 8th.

https://www.lshtm.ac.uk/newsevents/news/2020/peak-covid-19-deaths-occurring-english-hospitals-passed-8-april

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12 hours ago, candide said:

As has been already objected to you by another poster in another thread, this not true. The lockdown started on March 23rd and the case peak occured around April 13th.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/coronavirus-uk-lockdown-peak-deaths-cases-covid-19-cases-chart-stats-a9502196.html

The death peak occured on April 8th.

https://www.lshtm.ac.uk/newsevents/news/2020/peak-covid-19-deaths-occurring-english-hospitals-passed-8-april

Yes it is. Watch this:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-D41vEJMEmw

 

Read this:

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8235979/amp/UKs-coronavirus-crisis-peaked-lockdown-Expert-argues-draconian-measures-unnecessary.html

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1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said:

No cases and deaths peaked after the lockdown on the 23rd March

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All the evidence is in the charts, its the same whichever ones you go to. I watched the vid and it relies on data modeling the infection period. That does not counter the evidence at hand in any way or form.

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