12 minutes ago, bbi1 said:

Maybe Thailand should do more to keep and encourage the virus-free tourists it has in it's country to spend money and travel here, rather than only focusing on Thai tourists. Go ahead and extend the visa amnesty until 31st December and don't lose one single tourist who's putting money into your economy and Thai business' pockets.

like the ones i see in front of 7/11's nursing their booze lol..

On 7/7/2020 at 6:40 AM, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

You're so mis-informed it's almost beyond belief. Yes, people with pre-existing conditions are more likely to die, but someone with no pre-existing conditions doesn't get some kind of guaranteed free pass.

 

People of all ages, ethnic groups, and those with no pre-existing conditions have died and continue to die and get seriously ill around the world from the CV.... The numbers are not as great, but the risk is still there, albeit lower risk, on a case to case basis.

 

And, as the medical community learns more about the CV, it's not just about those who actually die, but also those who survive and are left with serious lifelong medical issues/disabilities because of the aftereffects of the CV.

As Public Enemy say Don't Believe The Hype. 99% of the dead in the UK have multiple underlying medical conditions and a large percentage of those are over 60, the numbers under 40 are minimal.

29 minutes ago, tribalfusion001 said:

As Public Enemy say Don't Believe The Hype. 99% of the dead in the UK have multiple underlying medical conditions and a large percentage of those are over 60, the numbers under 40 are minimal.

 

And so your point is??? It's OK for them to die from CV, because they're older and have other health conditions... Basically meaning, probably like most of the TFV membership.

 

I never quite follow these incessant claims by some that those who die from CV are (mostly) all elderly and with health issues. Even to the extent that's true, that doesn't mean that the YOUNG and HEALTHY won't catch the virus, some get sick, and even if they don't, will inevitably spread the virus to those around them, both young and old.

 

The point is anytime ANYONE comes down with the virus --unless they totally isolate themselves which in most cases is unlikely to happen -- it's bad for society at large, because the virus continues to spread, infecting more people, and causing illness and death to some share of those.

 

BTW, do you have any authority/citation for your 99% claim, which I find very unlikely to believe.

 

Edited July 8, 20206 yr by TallGuyJohninBKK

On 7/8/2020 at 1:20 AM, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

And so your point is??? It's OK for them to die from CV, because they're older and have other health conditions... Basically meaning, probably like most of the TFV membership.

 

I never quite follow these incessant claims by some that those who die from CV are (mostly) all elderly and with health issues. Even to the extent that's true, that doesn't mean that the YOUNG and HEALTHY won't catch the virus, some get sick, and even if they don't, will inevitably spread the virus to those around them, both young and old.

 

The point is anytime ANYONE comes down with the virus --unless they totally isolate themselves which in most cases is unlikely to happen -- it's bad for society at large, because the virus continues to spread, infecting more people, and causing illness and death to some share of those.

 

BTW, do you have any authority/citation for your 99% claim, which I find very unlikely to believe.

 

Here's a link to New York City's info, which is a rare source with underlying conditions as part of the data shown. NYC is probably a good overview as only 7 countries in the world have higher deaths than NYC all by itself, and they have a very diverse range of ages and ethnicities there.

 

They used to break out numbers by condition, but no longer do.  I believe diabetes was the most common, with high blood pressure, and heart conditions also right around the top. Also, obesity did not used to be considered an existing condition, so it may not be included now.

 

Go to the "Confirmed Cases" section about half way down on the Deaths page and click the "Underlying conditions" bubble.   

 

https://www1.nyc.gov/site/doh/covid/covid-19-data-deaths.page

 

You'll end up with about 88% with underlying conditions overall, less than 1 percent without underlying conditions, and 12 % pending.