3 minutes ago, Tagged said:

Picking a girl from fish tank is the same as meeting a freelancer on a night club?

For me, yes. You pay both. 

 

1 minute ago, luckyluke said:

For me, yes. You pay both. 

 

I can not argue with you about that! Your life your values.

1 minute ago, Tagged said:

I can not argue with you about that! Your life your values.

Honesty is a great value. 

Not pretending that paying a lady, for intimicy, is less worse in a certain case, than in another. 

 

The choice of the lady, or the choice of the place, has nothing to do with values. 

 

Or are you the kind of :

"Yes I pay prostitutes, but I not go to brothels, I have values". 

1 hour ago, Ventenio said:

1.  most of the cities are very bland, horrible architecture, and boring

2.  food is average, on average.  

3.  hot, hot, hot, really hot. life-changing hot

4.  money is everything

5.  every relationship will have drama

6.  most farangs have way too many issues

7.  never ride a motorbike

1. Phuket town. Sino Portuguese 

2. Thai food is famous in the world. 

3. No snowflakes

4. Thailand has closed for covid. Health number one.

5. So many pay a sexworker and surprise when not real love. Sometimes not real woman. 

6. Some

7. Good idea

8. Ranong/Phangnga west coast very clean air.

 

Shower often, be calm, not be angry small thing.

Welcome to Thailand. Land of smiles.

You will love it!!! Is very popular.

 

 

 

7 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said:

 

Last but not least HEALTH INSURANCE, if your employer provides you with it, all and good, just makes sure it's not with an international insurer, if they don't provide you with it, just get it, doesn't matter the cost, you cannot afford to go without here, trust me.

 

 

Few guys mentioned about the insurance. Can you please explain what is the dieters between international and local? It is also important as one comrade mentioned about not to drive motorbikes. I heard many stories about tourists are coming and decide to learn in Thailand or other se Asian countries because it is such a common thing and it won't take long for them to crash. I also saw a girl in Thailand next day after NY with broken skull and scars on her face at the hospital when I went to a dentist. But I have a motorbike license in my home country and use it as my daily commuter. Plus I ride bikes in Cambodia, Vietnam, Thailand and Malaysia. Vietnam is the worst. But in general everyone knows that it is not the safest transport, no decent helmet, protection etc. Probably you just have to take it easy and don't ride like locals with only a soup bawl on your head as a protection. Please add your comments. Maybe I miss something?

5 minutes ago, Yinn said:

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8.

 

Shower often, be calm, not be angry small thing.

Welcome to Thailand. Land of smiles.

You will love it!!! Is very popular.

 

 

 

9. Don't believe what 1 Thai says. 

 

You will find out that there are many Thais with different opinions about everything. 

Hi IvGeg, 

Only loosers pay for love. 

Try dating, same normal people. 

Have relationship with sex worker will be trouble.

 

In Thailand sex workers are very low class. 99% Thai people will think you idiot if do that.

You will not have friends in normal society if do that. Her friends and family will want money same.

Life will be terrible. You will hate thailand if do that. You will only be friends with other sex tourist. Sad.

 

Good luck Sir.

1. That you can't take a walk or go jogging at night without meeting angry dogs

2. That it's so difficult to get a job or open up a business

3. That I don't like Thai food and cheese is so expensiv

4. That it's so complicated to stay longer especially if you younger

5. That I only a guest no matter what

6. That racism is a big issue 

7. That you can't own property

8. That you have to pay for your nose

9. That speaking english means nothing

10. That many older falangs are alcoholics, very unhappy, complaining and many have serious mental health issues 

 

Even if I had knew all these things before it wouldn't had an affect on my decision to move here. I love it and exploring new things every day is still an adventure. 

13 minutes ago, Yinn said:

n Thailand sex workers are very low class. 99% Thai people will think you idiot if do that.

You will not have friends in normal society if do that. Her friends and family will want money same.

Life will be terrible. You will hate thailand if do that. You will only be friends with other sex tourist. Sad.

Good morning Yinn. I totally disagree, in my case anyway. My 11 years with an ex-sex worker has been wonderful, got a lovely step-daughter & son, built a house near her family. NEVER has anyone of them asked for money. Life is very easy, relaxed and relatively cheap. 

3 hours ago, mstevens said:

I wish I had realised that to most Thais we are not actually that special. We're just another person.   Back in the day before I lived in Thailand I found the Thais treated me extremely well when I was there on holiday and I mistakenly thought they thought I was special....which gave me a warm, fuzzy feeling. Once I moved there, I realised that they saw me as just another foreigner. And that is fine. Don't go thinking that you're special or they think you're special.

I don't want to be treated as special. But it seems lots of Thai treat farangs like some higher hierarchy group of people.

If I park my little bike (nothing special) I get sometimes preferred treatment, in shops and on the street it's more likely that Thais make space for that farang walking there, security guards treat many of us better than fellow Thais, the list is long.

Charles Schwab ! 

I wish I had know that the GBP would go from 74THB down to 38THB !

35 minutes ago, luckyluke said:

Honesty is a great value. 

Not pretending that paying a lady, for intimicy, is less worse in a certain case, than in another. 

 

The choice of the lady, or the choice of the place, has nothing to do with values. 

 

Or are you the kind of :

"Yes I pay prostitutes, but I not go to brothels, I have values". 

As I said, we have different values and see things different. A freelancer have a choice to choose and make the approach. In most  Brothels, beer bars, gogo's they do not have that choice, and get picked like cherries by anyone. As I said I can argue about how you see things. 

2 hours ago, IvGeg said:

So I don't want to find myself in a difficult situation. Because of that I decided to ask more experienced comrades and don't be so naive at first. Thank you for your replies. I appreciate any advices and thoughts.

Some time ago I was having a beer with two friends sitting outside our usual bar. We all go there for years and I guess for tourists it's obvious that we are not new to Thailand.

A stranger came to us and told us he wasn't in Thailand for years and if we have some (insider) info for him where to go, etc. We all were happy to share our experience. I think he bought us a beer or two and everybody was happy.

 

I think if I would go to an unknown place that is what I would do now. You can look at the people and choose who you ask. And obviously you can do something like that in a few different places with different people. Maybe not all of them will tell you only the truth but I am sure it's a good way to get fast up to date.

 

12 minutes ago, stouricks said:

Good morning Yinn. I totally disagree, in my case anyway. My 11 years with an ex-sex worker has been wonderful, got a lovely step-daughter & son, built a house near her family. NEVER has anyone of them asked for money. Life is very easy, relaxed and relatively cheap. 

Good morning. 

We disagree. I recommend dating.

But you happy. You win. 

1 minute ago, Yinn said:

Good morning. 

We disagree. I recommend dating.

But you happy. You win. 

And for how long do you suggest this recommended dating go on please?

2 hours ago, Ventenio said:

1.  most of the cities are very bland, horrible architecture, and boring

2.  food is average, on average.  

3.  hot, hot, hot, really hot. life-changing hot

4.  money is everything

5.  every relationship will have drama

6.  most farangs have way too many issues

7.  never ride a motorbike

1) I find some amazing architecture around Bangkok

2) Food's great, although most western offerings suck

3) Hot and muggy, although not life changing - lived in southern Arizona for many years. showering helps and there's always air.

4) Welcome to the world. But I find it less so here than in the States.

5) Been happily married to a Thai woman for 20 years

6) I avoid farangs

7) Ride whenever possible. Traffic sucks

9 minutes ago, Yinn said:

Good morning. 

We disagree. I recommend dating.

But you happy. You win. 

 

 

I would echo the comments of Stouricks.

 

I don't know how easy it is for a Thai to accept that a Farang can have a perfectly acceptable relationship with someone who worked in a bar. 

 

I can understand dating with people from similar socioeconomic backgrounds and similar age groups. Invariably on Thai Visa we are talking about p!ss poor Thai females who are trying to improve their lives - and finding an older westerner is one option to achieve that. The mutual benefits are obvious and sex, whilst always a factor, is not the sole basis of the relationship. 

 

Are there disasters - yes, of course there are. Such relationships often attract the worst characters - on both sides. 

Edited July 20, 20206 yr by hotandsticky

I wish I had brought more tea bags with me ???? 

10 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I don't want to be treated as special. But it seems lots of Thai treat farangs like some higher hierarchy group of people.

If I park my little bike (nothing special) I get sometimes preferred treatment, in shops and on the street it's more likely that Thais make space for that farang walking there, security guards treat

Because Thai people is freindly.

 

You are guest. Is Thai manners/culture for make guest feel welcome. 

“Chern ka”

Grengjai.

 

Enjoy you stay, have a good time. 

 

Is not because you are “farang”. Is because you guest. (if you farang we know you guest, so we good behavior)

 

 

I wish I had brought more tea bags with me ???? 

17 minutes ago, hotandsticky said:

I don't know how easy it is for a Thai to accept that a Farang can have a perfectly acceptable relationship with someone who worked in a bar. 

 

I know is sensitive issue some member TVF. 

 

But..

 

I will not make freinds with foreigner (or Thai) who girlfreind/wife sexworker. 

Or sexworker. 

 

I think your country same. You invite sex worker/customer be your freind, invite party with your Your sister/mother have sex worker freinds?

Is not comfortable situation. Cringe.

 

Sorry. My opinion. And most Thai opinion. Especially South people. 

Uncomfortable truth.

 

The OP want advice. That my advice. Will have better life with normal real girlfreind.

 

Many thread about “Not have real freind Thai man”. This the big reason.

 

 

Edited July 20, 20206 yr by Yinn

23 minutes ago, Yinn said:

Because Thai people is freindly.

 

You are guest. Is Thai manners/culture for make guest feel welcome. 

“Chern ka”

Grengjai.

 

Enjoy you stay, have a good time. 

 

Is not because you are “farang”. Is because you guest. (if you farang we know you guest, so we good behavior)

 

 

Really?

Then tell my why the average black guy or Indian guy is treated differently?

40 minutes ago, Tagged said:

As I said, we have different values and see things different. A freelancer have a choice to choose and make the approach. In most  Brothels, beer bars, gogo's they do not have that choice, and get picked like cherries by anyone. As I said I can argue about how you see things. 

Fair enough,

You pay prostitutes, you just don't like the name.

I did also, the important for me was the lady herself, not where she was doing her business.

I knew freelancers who were more popular than any lady working in a beer-bar, Go-go...

But that's a long time ago; I am happily married for 20 years, and faithful.

3 hours ago, IvGeg said:

Not now. In 1.5 year if everything is fine. But I rather start to prepare earlier, than it will be too late. 

That's a good way always plan early IMHO.

If you use the 1 & 1/2 years or so to come here and use the holiday time not as a holiday use the time just like you are living here.

Rent somewhere to live where you may be located by your company not a Hotel I think would be best. 

Lastly let your head rule situations and don't full in love.

Remember thai's have 6 smile. Even you don't want see many of them often , learn them!

Thai's cossip really much! If you live in small village all know your "secret" in next day.

Like OneMoreFarang said service is good (to me anyway) but what i think about that is:

i give much more value to them coz they get more profit . I use more money. 

Here is same than any other place in world, can't have relationship whitout money. Even i never had use prostitutes, man always pay way or other.

1 hour ago, Yinn said:

Because Thai people is freindly.

 

You are guest. Is Thai manners/culture for make guest feel welcome. 

“Chern ka”

Grengjai.

 

Enjoy you stay, have a good time. 

 

Is not because you are “farang”. Is because you guest. (if you farang we know you guest, so we good behavior)

 

 

Oooooo...will the one on the right go eat noodles with me????   555  Yindee tee dai rujak Krup!!!

1 hour ago, northsouthdevide said:

I wish I had brought more tea bags with me ???? 

THIS...a lesson learned for me...I always come with my old nappy backpack and my laptop--carry on only

 

Last visit id say a 1/3rd of my pack was TEA....as Im a tea junkie...customs in china shook me down as they thought I had drugs..was loose chinese tea.....U falang! u drink whisky--beer!  eat cheeseburger and pizza!!!

 

Only asian people drink tea!!!! Was a giant ziplock with a mix up of all kinds of tea..always bring tea+earplugs!

2 hours ago, IvGeg said:

Few guys mentioned about the insurance. Can you please explain what is the dieters between international and local? It is also important as one comrade mentioned about not to drive motorbikes. I heard many stories about tourists are coming and decide to learn in Thailand or other se Asian countries because it is such a common thing and it won't take long for them to crash. I also saw a girl in Thailand next day after NY with broken skull and scars on her face at the hospital when I went to a dentist. But I have a motorbike license in my home country and use it as my daily commuter. Plus I ride bikes in Cambodia, Vietnam, Thailand and Malaysia. Vietnam is the worst. But in general everyone knows that it is not the safest transport, no decent helmet, protection etc. Probably you just have to take it easy and don't ride like locals with only a soup bawl on your head as a protection. Please add your comments. Maybe I miss something?

With regards to health insurance, it is common knowledge that local health providers don't pay up, only talking from what others have said over the years, so sticking with international is best as I have heard that they pay up, subject to everyone being aware of the fine print, that includes reading whether they cover you from riding a motorbike, a very common misunderstanding for tourists who don't read the fine prints on their travel insurance policies.

 

If you have ridden a motorbike in the above countries you should be fine, I am an experienced rider from teenage years to adulthood and my last bike was a Kawasaki 1100, however I wouldn't ride here unless it's in the village to go to the local shop or drop something off to my wife's family. The reason for this is law enforcement here is not the same as western countries, no booze buses, so people drive/ride under the influence of alcohol/drugs as it's a given they will not get caught and if they end up hitting you, the percentage of them stopping to avoid getting caught is a given so why risk it, also a lot of them don't have insurance, or licenses, so at the end of the day, you are risking your life in their hands, and I don't say that lightly.

 

But as they say here, "up to you" ????

 

Hope this answers your questions, if you have anymore, just ask as getting other people's opinions is always good before making a decision.

Edited July 20, 20206 yr by 4MyEgo

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