Pregnancy + Tb Test

[pilgrim2505]

Does any one have any previous experience with the TB test with a pregnant woman? Can the X-ray still be done with abdominal shielding or is the sputum test the only option?

[the scouser]

I believe the sputum test is the only option, but your girlfriend is probably best off contacting the TB test centre and asking for their guidance.

Scouse.

[pilgrim2505]

I believe the sputum test is the only option, but your girlfriend is probably best off contacting the TB test centre and asking for their guidance.

Scouse.

As always Scouse delivers those golden apples, I have advised her to make the necessary calls to the people down at the IOM I have cut n pasted the details here for any1 else facing this dilemma:

To obtain the necessary certificate, applicants will need to attend the clinic run by International Organisation for Migration (IOM) staff at:

Kasemkij Building

8th Floor, 120 Silom Road

Bangrak, Bangkok 10500

Tel +66 2 234 7950-5

Fax + 66 2 234 7956

Email: [email protected]

It does look like she will have a 3 day stay in BKK shortly how terribly convenient, look out for the next exciting post titled “Budget hotels sought in Silom rd.”

I will also add comment to this post as soon as fatty has spoke to the people at IOM.

Pilgrim.

[Mossfinn]

It does look like she will have a 3 day stay in BKK shortly how terribly convenient, look out for the next exciting post titled “Budget hotels sought in Silom rd.”

I will also add comment to this post as soon as fatty has spoke to the people at IOM.

Pilgrim.

Budget Hotels in all areas There you go, jumped the gun for you.

Good Luck

Moss

[Mossfinn]

Does any one have any previous experience with the TB test with a pregnant woman? Can the X-ray still be done with abdominal shielding or is the sputum test the only option?

Pilgrim, I found a web page that was quite informative but have lost it and can't find it now!!

I would suggest that x-rays is not the best option, and I think that the sputum test is more accurate anyway, although not as quick and both are open to vagaries in diagnosis.

I personally would object, if indeed they try and proceed.

Good Luck

Moss

PS

If I remember I will ask a specialist TB clinic in Oxford on Wednesday, as I will be there and my wife is pregnant so it will be an operative question, i'd say.

Edited April 23, 2007 by Mossfinn

[the scouser]

I will also add comment to this post as soon as fatty has spoke to the people at IOM.

Who said I was going to phone them?

Scouse.

[Boo]

as a pregnant woman please take my kind & advice & don't call your wife fatty to her face Fish brain is also a no no too as my husband has recently discovered

I had a chest xray for tb whilst unknowlingly 6 weeks pregnant, I was advised that although it was best to not have had it, as it was localised on the chest & not the stomach it should be fine & my subseqent scans have confirm that no harm was done. But as others said, a few days of sputum tests will be more acurate & safer.

[pilgrim2505]

as a pregnant woman please take my kind & advice & don't call your wife fatty to her face Fish brain is also a no no too as my husband has recently discovered

I had a chest xray for tb whilst unknowlingly 6 weeks pregnant, I was advised that although it was best to not have had it, as it was localised on the chest & not the stomach it should be fine & my subseqent scans have confirm that no harm was done. But as others said, a few days of sputum tests will be more acurate & safer.

Thanx Moss will be interesting to find out, as for the comments Boo I will try and refrain from calling Fatty “Fatty,” thing is though; being in her current pregnant state so to speak and I’m sure you can support this claim - it doesn’t matter if its fish brains, fatty honey, darling they all get received by the same set of psychotic schizophrenic ears… oh did I mention the mood swings?

I will try Boo. good luck 4u2

Pilgrim

[pilgrim2505]

To obtain the necessary certificate, applicants will need to attend the clinic run by International Organisation for Migration (IOM) staff at:

Kasemkij Building

8th Floor, 120 Silom Road

Bangrak, Bangkok 10500

Tel +66 2 234 7950-5

Fax + 66 2 234 7956

Email: [email protected]

Pilgrim.

OFFICE HOURS ARE THE USUAL 9 - 5 calling them UK lunch time would be silly.

[Mossfinn]

No major differences to what has already been stated.

Best not to have at any stage, but unlikely to cause damage in the early stages, this is in regard to a chest x-ray, but a stomach x-ray has a much higher danger rating.

Chest x-rays can vary in strength as well so this can be a factor.

CT scans also provide a much higher danger scale and MRI's are largely risk free.

It will all be dependent on the risk rating factored against the danger in allowing a suitable diagnosis and each patient will have a different scale of reasoning toward the x-ray.

For TB diagnosis there is no discussion, there are alternative methods so insist on there use, and refuse, in my opinion an x-ray.

So Pilgrim, relatively little new info.

Good Luck

Moss

[pilgrim2505]

No major differences to what has already been stated.

Best not to have at any stage, but unlikely to cause damage in the early stages, this is in regard to a chest x-ray, but a stomach x-ray has a much higher danger rating.

Chest x-rays can vary in strength as well so this can be a factor.

CT scans also provide a much higher danger scale and MRI's are largely risk free.

It will all be dependent on the risk rating factored against the danger in allowing a suitable diagnosis and each patient will have a different scale of reasoning toward the x-ray.

For TB diagnosis there is no discussion, there are alternative methods so insist on there use, and refuse, in my opinion an x-ray.

So Pilgrim, relatively little new info.

Good Luck

Moss

Wow,

Cheers moss, no but you spent your time finding that out so cheers very much mate. Seems as if the sputum test; as romantic as it sounds is the only viable option so im told (my bird AKA fatty rung them up not you Scouse.)

It does send a poignant message that the only infectious disease they are concerned about is TB. Not to mention that this is fairly low on the list of diseases of concern in Thailand.

Some info taken from the CIA Factbook:

Degree of risk: high

food or waterborne diseases: bacterial diarrhea and hepatitis A

vectorborne diseases: dengue fever, malaria, Japanese encephalitis, and plague are high risks in some locations

animal contact disease: rabies

water contact disease: leptospirosis

note: highly pathogenic H5N1 avian influenza has been identified among birds in this country or surrounding region; it poses a negligible risk with extremely rare cases possible among US citizens who have close contact with birds (2007)

People living with HIV/AIDS 570,000 (2003 est.)

To me this reflects an inability to adapt to current demands and a failure to remain current in issues of transient health and modern virus ethics.

But hey, mine is not to reason why.

Pilgrim

[the scouser]

TB may not appear that common, but when our son was undergoing his vaccinations/inoculations (I can never remember which is which), the doctor explained that even though children in the UK are not routinely given the BCG now, he would be given it as he is likely to travel to Thailand frequently. Apparently, according to the quack, Thailand's incidence of TB is above the World Health Organisation's threshold of 40 cases per 100,000 of population.

Scouse.

[pilgrim2505]

TB may not appear that common, but when our son was undergoing his vaccinations/inoculations (I can never remember which is which), the doctor explained that even though children in the UK are not routinely given the BCG now, he would be given it as he is likely to travel to Thailand frequently. Apparently, according to the quack, Thailand's incidence of TB is above the World Health Organisation's threshold of 40 cases per 100,000 of population.

Scouse.

[Mossfinn]

TB Worldwide

11% increase

TB in UK

Sorry to be a little off topic, but these are just a few news items regarding TB in the UK.

I am a little surprized in certain reports stating it is not the in-flux of Eastern Europeans that was a catalyst in its re-emergence and increase in cases as was related to me by the TB clinic last year.

I notice that Thailand is not at the top of the list of TB infected countries but it is India, Pakistan and certain parts of Africa.

Scouse, do you know if the same controls are in place for the African and East European countries for TB screening at Ports of entry into the U.k.

As for the GP recommending the BCG for your lad, this is absolutely right and correct, youngsters are more vulnerable to infection than adults as their immunity is not completely in place.

TB unfortunately is still quite embedded in Thailand.

Moss

[pilgrim2505]

TB Worldwide

11% increase

TB in UK

Sorry to be a little off topic, but these are just a few news items regarding TB in the UK.

I am a little surprized in certain reports stating it is not the in-flux of Eastern Europeans that was a catalyst in its re-emergence and increase in cases as was related to me by the TB clinic last year.

I notice that Thailand is not at the top of the list of TB infected countries but it is India, Pakistan and certain parts of Africa.

Scouse, do you know if the same controls are in place for the African and East European countries for TB screening at Ports of entry into the U.k.

As for the GP recommending the BCG for your lad, this is absolutely right and correct, youngsters are more vulnerable to infection than adults as their immunity is not completely in place.

TB unfortunately is still quite embedded in Thailand.

Moss

Dear Moss,

What is it u do professionally? If you don’t mind me asking, curiosity kills the cat and all that.

Pilgrim

[the scouser]

do you know if the same controls are in place for the African and East European countries for TB screening at Ports of entry into the U.k.

UK Visas has a link here which details the countries in which UK visa applicants require a TB test.

Scouse.

[Mossfinn]

do you know if the same controls are in place for the African and East European countries for TB screening at Ports of entry into the U.k.

UK Visas has a link here which details the countries in which UK visa applicants require a TB test.

Scouse.

Cheers Scouse,

Still amazed that they are not screening now or in the next batch of countries on the list, the East Europeans that are now and in the near future, going to make a bee line for here.

Without being to generic and putting all in one box, certain citizens of countries have an awful habit of spitting, which makes my blood boil, and can have a determining factor along with indiscrimate coughing and sneezing of spreading this unhappy disease.

Perhaps in the following roll-out after that?

Good Luck

Moss

[Mossfinn]

Dear Moss,

What is it u do professionally? If you don’t mind me asking, curiosity kills the cat and all that.

Pilgrim

If you ventured into the Forum Support Sub, you would know I am a, 'Computer Expert'.

I presume you are asking because of the answers to the TB questions? I just have a vested interest in this disease.

If you really want to know, I will PM you.

Good Luck

Moss