PM aide Cummings damaged public confidence in UK COVID-19 response: study

[7by7]

22 hours ago, lungbing said:

Didn't Kinnock junior break the same rules when visiting his parents?  But there again he's Liebour so  the press won't follow up on thaht.

Except that they, and the police, did follow up on that!

 

For example, from the Guardian 29th March: Stephen Kinnock targeted by police for visiting father, Neil

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The MP son of Neil Kinnock, the former Labour leader, has been publicly shamed by police for “non-essential” travel during the coronavirus lockdown after going to celebrate his father’s 78th birthday.

 

 

[7by7]

22 hours ago, twocatsmac said:

Really?  Try a search of this title if anyone’s interested.

 

19 hours ago, evadgib said:

....& the content?

 A diversion with nothing to do with twocatsmac's original assertion.

 

Like his assertion, it's laying blame at Starmer's door for events which either happened before he became DPP or had no control over afterwards.

 

FYI: Lewisham Deptford Labour Youth Officer Verity Nevitt and Sister are being Sued for Libel, Harassment and Misuse of Private Information. Tweets Admit Drug Abuse and Paid Sugarbaby Sleaze

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Lucy and Verity spent the night with the man after an evening where it is said that they had consumed alcohol and drugs. The dispute is that they say that he raped Lucy and sexually assaulted Verity. He has produced texts and other communications he says prove this is not the case and in which they he asserts they admitted nothing happened. Having seen the texts and posts, police have dropped the rape and sexual assault investigation.

 

 

[3NUMBAS]

desperate lefty tosh .its a minor matter compared with starmers not taking action against pedos

[twocatsmac]

23 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

Thats a reputable source?

Yeah right.

Thats the spirit mate.

Ignore anything which does not suit your agenda.

What could possibly be wrong with that?

[Rookiescot]

6 minutes ago, twocatsmac said:

Thats the spirit mate.

Ignore anything which does not suit your agenda.

What could possibly be wrong with that?

Hey link a reputable source and I will read it with interest.

Its good to keep an open mind and get your information from various sources.

But the Mail and the Express?

Even wikipedia considers them as being unreliable sources.

As is Katie Hopkins. Even barred from twitter now I understand ????

[Dumbastheycome]

On 8/7/2020 at 11:32 AM, RuamRudy said:

I wonder did Johnson expect his corrupt sham government to be exposed quite so quickly. Certainly he and his cronies lost no time in exploiting the COVID situation to benefit their friends (and presumably themselves), but did he really think he could screw up on such a monumental scale without it being disclosed?

 

£252M contract awarded to Ayanda Capital, registered in Mauritius for tax purposes, PPE not delivered;

£116M contract awarded to P14 Medical Supplies (assets of £145 - yes, one hundred and forty five pounds!), PPE not delivered;

£186M contract awarded to Uniserve, PPE not delivered;

£107M contract awarded to Clandeboyne Agencies, a chocolate company, PPE not delivered;

£40M contract awarded to Medicine Box Lt (assets of £6000), PPE not delivered;

£48M contract awarded to Initia Ventures, registered as 'dormant', PPE not delivered;

£28M contract awarded to Monarch Acoustics, who make furniture, PPE not delivered;

£25M contract awarded to Luxe Lifestyles, which has no assets, no employees and no turnover, PPE not delivered;

£18M contract awarded to Aventis Solution, (assets of £332), PPE not delivered;

£10M contract awarded to Medco Solutions, incorporated 3 days after lockdown with share capital of £2 (two pounds), PPE not delivered;

 

However... what are the chances that (a) government ministers will be held to account; (b) the police will actively investigate; (c) there will be a transparent investigation and possible charges brought in relation to deaths that could have been prevented had these contracts been correctly awarded and fulfilled? I am guess not a chance in hell. 

 

The ultimate irony, I read yesterday - lawyers for Ayanda have written to the publicly funded lawyers attempting to challenge the awarding of the contract to them, stating that they will seek to have the case thrown out because they will argue that the latter would be unable to pay costs were they to lose. What sort of a kafkaesque world is it where government ministers can conspire with their friends to steal millions of pounds of taxpayers' money, then when the taxpayers attempt to redress this, the thieves use their stolen money to try to legally prevent the action?

 

The UK is a rotten, corrupt banana republic - the levers of power having been handed to the most mendacious politicians possible by a pliant, dull eyed electorate 

 

 

Incredible ! But grossly typical.

[7by7]

19 hours ago, 3NUMBAS said:

desperate lefty tosh .its a minor matter compared with starmers not taking action against pedos

 

You and @twocatsmac are laying blame at Starmer's door for events which either happened before he became DPP, the Rotherham and other scandals, or had no control over afterwards, Saville.

 

That you consider false accusations of rape to be a minor matter is reprehensible; would you continue with that view were it to happen to you? 

 

[7by7]

18 hours ago, twocatsmac said:

Thats the spirit mate.

Ignore anything which does not suit your agenda.

What could possibly be wrong with that?

It is certainly something TVF's Barstool Brexiteers have been doing since the referendum campaign!

[twocatsmac]

22 minutes ago, 7by7 said:

 

You and @twocatsmac are laying blame at Starmer's door for events which either happened before he became DPP, the Rotherham and other scandals, or had no control over afterwards, Saville.

 

That you consider false accusations of rape to be a minor matter is reprehensible; would you continue with that view were it to happen to you? 

 

Starmer and the BBC,  Esther Rantzen too.

Now what do they have in common sunshine? 

 

 

 

 

[7by7]

10 minutes ago, twocatsmac said:

Starmer and the BBC,  Esther Rantzen too.

Now what do they have in common sunshine? 

 

 

 

 

What are you burbling on about? 

 

The BBC may have hidden Saville's activities, which is a scandal.

 

Rantzen not speaking out, with her self publicised protection of children and as the founder of Childline, shows what a hypocrite she is.

 

Starmer? Don't think he's ever worked for the BBC, Rantzen nor Childline. But if you know different....... 

 

That you lot are having to resort to these tactics only shows how scared you are of a revitalised Labour party under Starmer.

 

So are the Tories; which is why Johnson's days are numbered.

Edited August 9, 2020 by 7by7
Addendum

[Mavideol]

On 8/7/2020 at 12:25 PM, Rookiescot said:

Not long ago this would have resulted in resignations and even a collapse of the government.

Not now though. The UK has become so right wing that democracy is no longer functioning. 

This kind of corruption and things like Johnsons friends and family promotions to the house of Lords would be worthy of someone like Robert Mugabe.

when he was found driving around I said so.... if he or the 2 of them had any balls they should quit, they didn't listen and I also said, Cummings actions would be biting both on the rear, time is co(u)mi(m)ing 555

[Mavideol]

On 8/7/2020 at 3:04 PM, evadgib said:

The study seems to have omitted the fact that Cummings successfully neutered a remainer-orchestrated coup while Boris languished in ICU.

anything to back up such a non sense, come on give it a try

[twocatsmac]

18 minutes ago, 7by7 said:

What are you burbling on about? 

 

The BBC may have hidden Saville's activities, which is a scandal.

 

Rantzen not speaking out, with her self publicised protection of children and as the founder of Childline, shows what a hypocrite she is.

 

Starmer? Don't think he's ever worked for the BBC, Rantzen nor Childline. But if you know different....... 

 

That you lot are having to resort to these tactics only shows how scared you are of a revitalised Labour party under Starmer.

 

So are the Tories; which is why Johnson's days are numbered.

 

Did Starmer “Fix it” for Jim ?  

 

I’ll share a little secret with you.

 When you’re elected PM you have 4 years as head honcho, so you may want to edit your, 

“Johnson’s days are numbered” routine.

[Mavideol]

On 8/7/2020 at 8:28 PM, twocatsmac said:

Really?  Try a search of this title if anyone’s interested.

 

 

 

 

 

what source is that ??   nothing more than sheer desperation 555

[Surelynot]

On 8/7/2020 at 10:55 AM, OneMoreFarang said:

Anybody who follows the news knows that without any study.

My thoughts exactly, but then I listened to the interview of the lady who led on this. She was very convincing as to the extent of the 'damage' done and how strongly the data collected, supported the proposition of his activities damaging public confidence.

 

I would also point out the genius of Cummings is far from proved......he has been involved in two, two horse races and happened to be on the winning side in both.

 

If he had fought for Remain and won against 40 years of lies from the Mail/Express/Telegraph or installed the most reviled (by the same papers) contender for the PM'ship (Corbyn) then I would agree he might classed a genius.

[7by7]

1 hour ago, twocatsmac said:

Did Starmer “Fix it” for Jim ?  

No.

 

1 hour ago, twocatsmac said:

I’ll share a little secret with you.

 When you’re elected PM you have 4 years as head honcho, so you may want to edit your, 

“Johnson’s days are numbered” routine.

For starters, under the Fixed Term Parliament Act 2011 it's five years between general elections.

 

However, The government can ask Parliament to pass an Act calling for a snap election at any time; as happened with the 2019 General Election, held 30 months after the 2017 one.

 

But, the Prime Minister is not personally elected at a General Election, and can change during a government's term if they resign or are sacked by their party. This has happened many times; three times so far this century. When Brown replaced Blair, May replaced Cameron and Johnson replaced May. 

 

It will happen again next year when the Tories finally tire of being bossed around by Cummings and so replace his puppet.

[twocatsmac]

10 minutes ago, 7by7 said:

No.

 

You should read up on UK electoral law before making a fool of yourself with such statements. For starters, under the Fixed Term Parliament Act 2011 it's five years between general elections.

 

However, The government can ask Parliament to pass an Act calling for a snap election at any time; as happened with the 2019 General Election, held 30 months after the 2017 one.

 

But, the Prime Minister is not personally elected at a General Election, and can change during a government's term if they resign or are sacked by their party. This has happened many times; three times so far this century. When Brown replaced Blair, May replaced Cameron and Johnson replaced May. 

 

It will happen again next year when the Tories finally tire of being bossed around by Cummings and so replace his puppet.

As I say in 2 lines and you repeat in 13 lines, he has 4 more years.

 

[7by7]

17 minutes ago, twocatsmac said:

As I say in 2 lines and you repeat in 13 lines, he has 4 more years.

 

Not what you said:

1 hour ago, twocatsmac said:

 When you’re elected PM you have 4 years as head honcho

 

But Johnson will only get his 5 years from last December, if Parliament and/or his party allow it.

 

Which is very unlikely; especially the latter.