Visa Run Question

[smily]

Im going to thailand for 33 days. Does this mean i have to do a visa run just for the extra 3 days?

Thaks for any advice

[britmaveric]

Need a Tourist Visa or proof of onward travel. If you don't have this, might not allow you to board the plane.

[colino]

you can go to immigration and get extra time for 1900 baht not sure of how long 14 days i think but could be wrong, overstayis not a good idea and could get you in big trouble and would cost you more, i have been refused flights to thailand when i was getting a visa on arrival (30day tourist) by all major airlines the guys on here can give you alot more info and correct advice,

[visarunner]

you can go to immigration and get extra time for 1900 baht not sure of how long 14 days i think but could be wrong, overstayis not a good idea and could get you in big trouble and would cost you more, i have been refused flights to thailand when i was getting a visa on arrival (30day tourist) by all major airlines the guys on here can give you alot more info and correct advice,

If you plan to go to Immigration you will get 7 days extension for THB 1,900.-, but with the current policy in showing a outbound ticket you better apply for a Tourist Visa in your homecountry.

THE ALIENS ENTERING KINGDOM WITH NO VISA MUST PRESENT TICKET OR TRAVEL

DOCUMNETS THAT HAVE BEEN PAID ALREADY OR CONFIRMED TO EXIT THE KINGDOM

AND MUST NOT EXCEED 30DAY UPON THE DATE OF ENTRANCE TO THE KINGDOM.

[Crossy]

Everything they say ^^^

Without a visa of some description you may not be allowed to board your flight rendering the overstay question moot.

If you do get on the flight immigration are now asking for proof of onward travel within 30 days of arrival (I believe only at land crossings but the airport can only be a matter of time).

Get a single-entry tourist visa at your local consulate (can be done by post) and all difficulties will magically go away.

Repeat after me 100 times 'I will not overstay my visa'

[easybullet3]

Im going to thailand for 33 days. Does this mean i have to do a visa run just for the extra 3 days?

Thaks for any advice

you can go to thailand on the free 30 day visa.. (you get this 'on arrival' at the airport or any boarder crossing into thailand).

then you can overstay 3 days. you will be charged 500 baht per day. (so for 3 days overstaying it will cost you 1500 baht).

this is cheaper than paying 1900 for a visa extension and you dont have to waste time crossing bangkok and waiting ages in the immigration office.

overstaying is done all the time by people living or holiday in thailand. you just pay 500 baht a day. (there is no other punishment and they dont tell you off.. when you exit thailand, they will just tell you to pay 1500 baht for 3 days overstay).

its the easiest way. this does not affect your future visits to thailand.

on a personal level, I have done this MANY times. I know people that have overstayed weeks! its just a fine, you pay it and thats all.

[smeagle]

Agree Easybullet3 cheaper and easier. I know off a guy getting refused entry because he had many overstayed stamps. If your coming Thailand on holiday then ok for 3 days, but at the end of the day, they do say don't overstay.

[PhilHarries]

Im going to thailand for 33 days. Does this mean i have to do a visa run just for the extra 3 days?

Thaks for any advice

you can go to thailand on the free 30 day visa.. (you get this 'on arrival' at the airport or any boarder crossing into thailand).

then you can overstay 3 days. you will be charged 500 baht per day. (so for 3 days overstaying it will cost you 1500 baht).

this is cheaper than paying 1900 for a visa extension and you dont have to waste time crossing bangkok and waiting ages in the immigration office.

overstaying is done all the time by people living or holiday in thailand. you just pay 500 baht a day. (there is no other punishment and they dont tell you off.. when you exit thailand, they will just tell you to pay 1500 baht for 3 days overstay).

its the easiest way. this does not affect your future visits to thailand.

on a personal level, I have done this MANY times. I know people that have overstayed weeks! its just a fine, you pay it and thats all.

While what you say is true, the point others are trying to make is that he may not be allowed to board the aircraft depending on how clued up the checkin staff are or he may not be allowed through immigration. They are checking for onward travel only at land border crossing at present but it can only be a matter of time before they extend it to the airports.

[Crossy]

As Victor Meldrew would say 'I cannot belieeeeeeeeeeve that anyone would suggest a deliberate overstay as a way of saving what is, in effect, a trivial amount of money'.

A few, or even one year ago maybe it would be workable, but with the recent tightening up of immigration rules trying it would be foolhardy and could cost you a two way flight if not allowed to board or not allowed in by immigration.

Just waaaaay too risky.

[seagull]

A week's extension would still cost you bt 1900. Overstay of 3 days would cost bt 1500. It is not difficult to conclude that you would be better off getting a tourist visa for a stay of 60 days at bt 1000. And you have a peace of mind.

[abdulrahman]

Im going to thailand for 33 days. Does this mean i have to do a visa run just for the extra 3 days?

Thaks for any advice

you can go to thailand on the free 30 day visa.. (you get this 'on arrival' at the airport or any boarder crossing into thailand).

then you can overstay 3 days. you will be charged 500 baht per day. (so for 3 days overstaying it will cost you 1500 baht).

this is cheaper than paying 1900 for a visa extension and you dont have to waste time crossing bangkok and waiting ages in the immigration office.

overstaying is done all the time by people living or holiday in thailand. you just pay 500 baht a day. (there is no other punishment and they dont tell you off.. when you exit thailand, they will just tell you to pay 1500 baht for 3 days overstay).

its the easiest way. this does not affect your future visits to thailand.

on a personal level, I have done this MANY times. I know people that have overstayed weeks! its just a fine, you pay it and thats all.

I always wonder how much b*****t the newbies are mailing!

[Krub]

Im going to thailand for 33 days. Does this mean i have to do a visa run just for the extra 3 days?

Thaks for any advice

you can go to thailand on the free 30 day visa.. (you get this 'on arrival' at the airport or any boarder crossing into thailand).

then you can overstay 3 days. you will be charged 500 baht per day. (so for 3 days overstaying it will cost you 1500 baht).

this is cheaper than paying 1900 for a visa extension and you dont have to waste time crossing bangkok and waiting ages in the immigration office.

overstaying is done all the time by people living or holiday in thailand. you just pay 500 baht a day. (there is no other punishment and they dont tell you off.. when you exit thailand, they will just tell you to pay 1500 baht for 3 days overstay).

its the easiest way. this does not affect your future visits to thailand.

on a personal level, I have done this MANY times. I know people that have overstayed weeks! its just a fine, you pay it and thats all.

DO NOT OVERSTAY

you risk to be put in the Tokyo Hilton (not the hotel) and it is not a nice place to spend the last days of your holidays waiting for deportation

[easybullet3]

Im going to thailand for 33 days. Does this mean i have to do a visa run just for the extra 3 days?

Thaks for any advice

you can go to thailand on the free 30 day visa.. (you get this 'on arrival' at the airport or any boarder crossing into thailand).

then you can overstay 3 days. you will be charged 500 baht per day. (so for 3 days overstaying it will cost you 1500 baht).

this is cheaper than paying 1900 for a visa extension and you dont have to waste time crossing bangkok and waiting ages in the immigration office.

overstaying is done all the time by people living or holiday in thailand. you just pay 500 baht a day. (there is no other punishment and they dont tell you off.. when you exit thailand, they will just tell you to pay 1500 baht for 3 days overstay).

its the easiest way. this does not affect your future visits to thailand.

on a personal level, I have done this MANY times. I know people that have overstayed weeks! its just a fine, you pay it and thats all.

DO NOT OVERSTAY

[/size]you risk to be put in the Tokyo Hilton (not the hotel) and it is not a nice place to spend the last days of your holidays waiting for deportation

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ok. i have overstayed about 8 times over the past 3 years. every time its a very formal desk that is clearly marked : "Överstay" you pay your money. they ask NO QUESTIONS> there are ALWAYS people in the overstay line!! its a simple procedure!!

there is NO RISK of prison!!

even at BANGKOK IMMIGRATION it has the rules: "overstay visa will be charged at 500 baht per day".

perhaps you guys that are advising against this method have never overstayed vbefore.. (or, if you did, maybe you assumed you 'got out of it luckily with a fine'. but actually,, over the past 3 years of being here, aside from my own overstays, I have HEAPS of friends that can agree with me here).

if I have done it 8 times,, then I think that a first timer,, doing it ONCE will havce not even the slightest of problems!

I have done it at bangkok airport (upon departure) and also at ayaranapatet/Poipet (cambodian border). and also at rayong (manymar/burmeese boarder)

of couse,, if you really wanna do the correct way,, go ahead and do the proper 60 day tourist visa.

either way.

the guys saying about risking prison are wrong.

there are signs everywhere at all immigrations clearly stating that overstayers must pay a fine of 500 baht per day. Thats all.

[The Dan Sai Kid]

either way.

the guys saying about risking prison are wrong.

there are signs everywhere at all immigrations clearly stating that overstayers must pay a fine of 500 baht per day. Thats all.

No they aren't. If you are caught by the police without a visa, on overstay - then you are treated the same as any Laos or Cambodian illegal is.

If you aren't caught and get to the airport then it is not a problem. Pay the fine and leave.

It's what happens if the police stop you at a checkpoint and look at your passport, or if they are having a crackdown and are stopping people at random on the street -this is when you WILL have a major problem.

I just can't see how it's worth it...

[PhilHarries]

That's all.

Anything to do with visas, immigration etc is at the discretion of the immigration officer.

If you apply for a visa it can be rejected according to the whims of the embassy or consul.

If you arrive hoping for a 30 day visa exempt stamp it can be refused at the whims of immigration.

Nothing is certain in these times of change. If you can do it correctly then what's the problem?

They have more than enough rules by which they can refuse entry, most of these are not enforced. However, like the onward/return ticket rule they can be invoked at any time they like. They also have a rule, never enforced IME, that you should provide proof of sufficient funds on entry. A person could enter in conditions like the OP on Monday and get through, another person comes in Tuesday and get refused.

The chances are he'll waft in, overstay the 3 days and waft out paying the 1500. No problemo.

However if, during those 3 days, he is stopped and asked for ID it will be a quick trip up to the IDC, an uncomfortable time, probably a bigger fine (don't know never had the pleasure) and unceremoniously turfed out. Unlikely? Well, on my past experience I'd have to agree, but the times they are a changin' as the song goes. On top of this we have Sondthi warning of troubled times ahead, IMO this is not the time to be taking unnecessary risks.

[Krub]

Im going to thailand for 33 days. Does this mean i have to do a visa run just for the extra 3 days?

Thaks for any advice

you can go to thailand on the free 30 day visa.. (you get this 'on arrival' at the airport or any boarder crossing into thailand).

then you can overstay 3 days. you will be charged 500 baht per day. (so for 3 days overstaying it will cost you 1500 baht).

this is cheaper than paying 1900 for a visa extension and you dont have to waste time crossing bangkok and waiting ages in the immigration office.

overstaying is done all the time by people living or holiday in thailand. you just pay 500 baht a day. (there is no other punishment and they dont tell you off.. when you exit thailand, they will just tell you to pay 1500 baht for 3 days overstay).

its the easiest way. this does not affect your future visits to thailand.

on a personal level, I have done this MANY times. I know people that have overstayed weeks! its just a fine, you pay it and thats all.

DO NOT OVERSTAY

[/size]you risk to be put in the Tokyo Hilton (not the hotel) and it is not a nice place to spend the last days of your holidays waiting for deportation

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ok. i have overstayed about 8 times over the past 3 years. every time its a very formal desk that is clearly marked : "Överstay" you pay your money. they ask NO QUESTIONS> there are ALWAYS people in the overstay line!! its a simple procedure!!

there is NO RISK of prison!!

even at BANGKOK IMMIGRATION it has the rules: "overstay visa will be charged at 500 baht per day".

perhaps you guys that are advising against this method have never overstayed vbefore.. (or, if you did, maybe you assumed you 'got out of it luckily with a fine'. but actually,, over the past 3 years of being here, aside from my own overstays, I have HEAPS of friends that can agree with me here).

if I have done it 8 times,, then I think that a first timer,, doing it ONCE will havce not even the slightest of problems!

I have done it at bangkok airport (upon departure) and also at ayaranapatet/Poipet (cambodian border). and also at rayong (manymar/burmeese boarder)

of couse,, if you really wanna do the correct way,, go ahead and do the proper 60 day tourist visa.

either way.

the guys saying about risking prison are wrong.

there are signs everywhere at all immigrations clearly stating that overstayers must pay a fine of 500 baht per day. Thats all.

If you make it to the airport immigration desk you are ok.

If you are caught BEFORE immigration at airport, you go to jail and wait for deportation and are locked up in inhumane conditions

But please feel free to take the risks

Edited April 26, 2007 by Krub

[Crossy]

I have done it at bangkok airport (upon departure) and also at ayaranapatet/Poipet (cambodian border). and also at rayong (manymar/burmeese boarder)

Try it now and you may well find that Cambodia won't let you in (signs to that effect in the Thai side immigration shed).

There are also credible reports of people being taken off the border run buses at checkpoints on the way (even on only one day overstay), being locked up and deported.

IT JUST ISN'T WORTH THE RISK.

easybullet3, you are either incredibly naieve, incredibly stupid or incredibly both, but as others have said 'up2u' it's your business, but please don't advise people to follow your modus-operandi.

QED

Edited April 26, 2007 by Crossy

[smily]

Thanks for all the advice every body. Can they really stop you boarding the plane on the way over?i went last year for two months but went to loas aswell but will not really have enough time to do that this year.

[Crossy]

Thanks for all the advice every body. Can they really stop you boarding the plane on the way over?i went last year for two months but went to loas aswell but will not really have enough time to do that this year.

YES they can, and they will if they feel there is a risk you will not be allowed to enter Thailand.

If a passenger is refused entry the airline is fined and required to return you to your origin so naturally they don't want to take any risks.