webfact Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 20 new Covid cases – all in quarantine By THE NATION The Centre for Covid-19 Situation Administration on Thursday reported 20 new cases in quarantine over a 24-hour period. The new patients comprise 14 Thai returnees and six foreigners. The Thai nationals are: 5 from India (aged 33, 38 and 41 and two aged 42) 1 from the UK (36) 1 from the United Arab Emirates (49) 1 from the US (54) 2 from Sweden (20 and 37) 1 from France (45) 2 from Switzerland (50 and 73) 1 from Kuwait (31) The foreigners comprise one Indian, two British nationals, one German and one Pakistani, aged 42, 60, 17, 79 and 30, respectively, from their home countries, and a Dutch man aged 75 from Switzerland. As of Thursday, the number of confirmed cases in Thailand has increased to 4,281 (1,287 in state quarantine). Of these, 232 are in hospital and 3,989 have recovered and been discharged. The death toll remains at 60. According to Worldometer, as of 10am the number of confirmed global cases has risen to 74.52 million (increasing by 714,908). Of these, 52.36 million have recovered, 22.16 million are active cases (107,525 in severe condition) and 1.65 million have died (an increase of 13,446). Thailand ranks a safe 152nd for most cases in the world. The US has the most number, with 17.36 million, followed by India 9.95 million, Brazil 7.04 million, Russia 2.73 million and France 2.4 million. Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30399752 -- © Copyright The Nation Thailand 2020-12-17 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yeahbutif Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 So we must assume they were infected before they got here.but how did they get a clear quirintine before leaving own country.and if on an airplane what about the rest of the plane..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob12345 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 7 minutes ago, yeahbutif said: So we must assume they were infected before they got here.but how did they get a clear quirintine before leaving own country.and if on an airplane what about the rest of the plane..... They got a clear quarantine slip to enter the plane because it wasn't showing yet. That takes time and you can get your covid-free slip a few days before departure I presume. All the other people on the plane are already in quarantine: thats why EVERYBODY needs to do the quarantine, not just whoever feels sick during or right after the flight. Maybe everyone on that plane now got covid: none of them will be out of quarantine unless they are covid-free after 14-15 days. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yeahbutif Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 10 minutes ago, Bob12345 said: They got a clear quarantine slip to enter the plane because it wasn't showing yet. That takes time and you can get your covid-free slip a few days before departure I presume. All the other people on the plane are already in quarantine: thats why EVERYBODY needs to do the quarantine, not just whoever feels sick during or right after the flight. Maybe everyone on that plane now got covid: none of them will be out of quarantine unless they are covid-free after 14-15 days. so what you saying is eg (1 from the UK (36)) came on a near empty plane ? as if this was the case of all the now infected people coming from diffrent countries , there would be many more in quarantine surely ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stretch5163 Posted December 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2020 42 minutes ago, yeahbutif said: So we must assume they were infected before they got here.but how did they get a clear quirintine before leaving own country.and if on an airplane what about the rest of the plane..... Dont forget Thai's returning or repatriating do not require to get a PCR test before flying. So the inherent problems is many of these could already have Covid and it doesnt shoe up until their frist test in quarantine. People on the same flight can in fact be catching covid from these other non tested people. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mops59 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 False certificates https://www.ad.nl/binnenland/valse-coronavrij-verklaringen-in-omloop-artsen-reageren-geschokt~a049e666/?referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GroveHillWanderer Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 3 hours ago, yeahbutif said: So we must assume they were infected before they got here.but how did they get a clear quirintine before leaving own country.and if on an airplane what about the rest of the plane..... There were 14 Thais on the list. The Thai authorities don't require then to have a negative PCR test result before flying, so if they hadn't been tested, there would have been no reason for them to be quarantined before departure (most countries, especially in Europe don't quarantine infected people anyway). Then, depending on which airline they flew, the airline may not have required a PCR test either, so you had up to 14 non-tested and possibly infectious Thais on flights along with various foreigners who although they had been tested, would have been exposed to these untested Thai citizens on their flights back here. So I think there's every chance the people who turn up positive in quarantine here, got infected on the plane by people who had not been tested before flying. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianezy0 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 This is becoming very strange. There has to be more confirmed quarantine cases in quarantine than any other country. Yet of all the thousands released into the Kingdom after the 14 days, a recorded case is very rare! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunsetT Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 2 hours ago, ianezy0 said: This is becoming very strange. There has to be more confirmed quarantine cases in quarantine than any other country. Yet of all the thousands released into the Kingdom after the 14 days, a recorded case is very rare! Why strange? That is exactly what quarantine is for. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianezy0 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, SunsetT said: Why strange? That is exactly what quarantine is for. Apologies, I didn’t word my post very well. I just think it strange that they find so many Covid positive cases in quarantine when the non Thai people should have already produced a certificate to state they have been 14 days Covid free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overherebc Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 5 hours ago, Mops59 said: False certificates https://www.ad.nl/binnenland/valse-coronavrij-verklaringen-in-omloop-artsen-reageren-geschokt~a049e666/?referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F That is scary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 21 hours ago, yeahbutif said: So we must assume they were infected before they got here.but how did they get a clear quirintine before leaving own country.and if on an airplane what about the rest of the plane..... They don't need to, Thais are allowed to come back but must enter quarantine. Another reason that it's not safe to open borders yet, no matter how much Phuket/Pattaya scream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob12345 Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 21 hours ago, yeahbutif said: so what you saying is eg (1 from the UK (36)) came on a near empty plane ? as if this was the case of all the now infected people coming from diffrent countries , there would be many more in quarantine surely ? No, maybe the plane had 200 people on there (or 40, or 150, or 231). All 200 went in quarantine, just like everybody who enters the country, and 1 of them (the UK guy) tested positive so far. The other 199 are still in quarantine for a total of 14 days, no matter if they get a positive test or not. If they do not get a positive test, they will never be mentioned in the newspaper as it is not news. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlover Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 21 hours ago, yeahbutif said: so what you saying is eg (1 from the UK (36)) came on a near empty plane ? as if this was the case of all the now infected people coming from diffrent countries , there would be many more in quarantine surely ? Not necessarily. It's quite common for a repatriation flight to consolidate returnees from various countries within a region. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chilly07 Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 To stop this nonsense they need repatriating Thais to be tested before they get on a plane or cross a border. If foreigners can do it then so can Thais. I wouldn't dream of getting on a plane with predominantly untested Thais! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deniszzz Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 and all these people will receive an expensive treatment from the hospitals now? couldn't that been a reason for so many "infected" persons in quarantine? ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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