Massive Headache with Marriage Visa

[azt219]

Hey guys

 

Not sure how I've managed to get this all so screwed up but:

 

Trying to get the 1 year multi entry marriage visa for first time

Got married in the UK, marriage certificate is in English and from UK

Tried using Visa service - all ok (400K in bank etc), but need marriage certificate translated and verified by UK embassy, advised to get Kor 22

 

Been informed it has to be verified by UK embassy intially but then found out UK embassy in Bangkok no longer verifies marriage certificates

Informed there was online service and just had to send back to UK, did that, went to Chaeng Watthana to register as advised by Visa service, get told that marriage certificate needs to be verified by Thai Embassy in UK first ????

 

This doesn't make any sense as previously people only had to get their marriage certificate verfied by UK embassy and then translated to get marriage visa, how come suddenly there are so many more steps???

 

If anyone has any knowledge of what to actually I'd be grateful.

 

Thanks

[ubonjoe]

The UK embassy stopped doing the certification about 5 years ago.

The Thai Embassy in London legitimization step is mentioned in this document from UK embassy website.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/714089/Legalisation_info_June_2018.pdf

After all of the that is done it has to be translated to Thai and certified by the Department of Consular Affairs of the MFA in Bangkok.

After getting everything done you have to register your foreign marriage at an Amphoe to get a Kor Ror 22.

[azt219]

But do I need a Kor Ror 22 for a marriage visa? Did people previously need to verify with the thai uk embassy before applying for a marriage visa?

[ubonjoe]

4 minutes ago, azt219 said:

But do I need a Kor Ror 22 for a marriage visa?

Immigration has required Kor Ror 22 foreign marriage registry for several years now after the registration is done at an Amphoe to apply for a extension of stay (it not a visa) based upon marriage.

 

5 minutes ago, azt219 said:

Did people previously need to verify with the thai uk embassy before applying for a marriage visa?

The verification is required by a Amphoe not immigration.

Immigration want a foreign marriage certificate legitimized for other types of extensions that require proof of marriage. Same for foreign birth certificates.

[sometimewoodworker]

17 hours ago, azt219 said:

But do I need a Kor Ror 22 for a marriage visa? Did people previously need to verify with the thai uk embassy before applying for a marriage visa?

You keep talking of a marriage visa, the assumption in replies is that you probably mean an extension of stay not a visa, it could change some answers depending on what exactly is needed (but the process in the UK then at the MoFA will be required as it has for some time)

[Tanoshi]

@azt219

It sounds as though you want to apply for a 1 year extension of your current permission of stay based on marriage to a Thai at your local Immigration office. This is a permit, not a Visa. You can apply for a multi entry permit at the same time.

 

Immigration will not accept your application unless you can prove you are (and still) legally married to a Thai.

This evidence comes from your local Amphur office in the form of a Kor Ror 22 in your situation. The Kor Ror 22 confirms that since registering your marriage at the Amphur, there is no record of divorce, hence by issuing the Kor Ror 22, you are still legally married.

 

The issue you have is that you married in the UK, therefore your marriage is not registered in Thailand, so the Amphur cannot issue the required Kor Ror 22 that Immigration request as proof of a legal marriage.

 

You need to have your UK marriage certificate authenticated as genuine as the first step, which is performed by the UK Home Office in Milton Keynes.

The second step is to then have the UK marriage certificate legalised by the Thai Embassy in the UK, who attach an apostille to the marriage certificate, making it (a foreign document) accepted as legal and genuine for use in Thailand.

The third step is then once in Thailand with said legalised document (as above), to have it translated into Thai, then have the translation and original document (marriage certificate) legalised by Thailand's Ministry of Foreign Affairs (Bangkok).

Read the link supplied by UJ.

 

This process of legalising a foreign document for use and acceptance in Thailand has been the same for a number of years.

 

You can then supply your foreign legalised and legalised translation of your UK marriage certificate to your local Amphur, who will then register your foreign marriage for their records. You can then obtain the said Kor Ror 22 from the Amphur for Immigration for future applications to extend your stay in Thailand each year.

For those of us who married in Thailand, we require the same proof of still being legally married, the only difference is the form, which is a Kor Ror 2 (not 22).

Kor Ror 2 denotes a marriage at a Thai Amphur, whereas a Kor Ror 22 denotes a foreign marriage registered with the Amphur.

[Peter Denis]

59 minutes ago, Tanoshi said:

@azt219

It sounds as though you want to apply for a 1 year extension of your current permission of stay based on marriage to a Thai at your local Immigration office.

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Thanks for this.

It is the most clear explanation I have come across of the steps you need to take to get your UK marriage recognized by Thai authorities allowing you then to apply for the needed Kor Ror 22 to apply for any extension 'for reason of marriage to a Thai national'.

 

[gamini]

On 12/17/2020 at 1:27 PM, azt219 said:

Hey guys

 

Not sure how I've managed to get this all so screwed up but:

 

Trying to get the 1 year multi entry marriage visa for first time

Got married in the UK, marriage certificate is in English and from UK

Tried using Visa service - all ok (400K in bank etc), but need marriage certificate translated and verified by UK embassy, advised to get Kor 22

 

Been informed it has to be verified by UK embassy intially but then found out UK embassy in Bangkok no longer verifies marriage certificates

Informed there was online service and just had to send back to UK, did that, went to Chaeng Watthana to register as advised by Visa service, get told that marriage certificate needs to be verified by Thai Embassy in UK first ????

 

This doesn't make any sense as previously people only had to get their marriage certificate verfied by UK embassy and then translated to get marriage visa, how come suddenly there are so many more steps???

 

If anyone has any knowledge of what to actually I'd be grateful.

 

Thanks

 

[gamini]

very simple just get remarried again in Thailand. This is what I did then I applied for marriage extension

[fishtank]

6 minutes ago, gamini said:

very simple just get remarried again in Thailand. This is what I did then I applied for marriage extension

You cannot get married twice.

Unless you get divorced first.

[Tanoshi]

23 minutes ago, gamini said:

very simple just get remarried again in Thailand. This is what I did then I applied for marriage extension

 

17 minutes ago, fishtank said:

You cannot get married twice.

 

He could, but would be committing 'perjury' by lying on his affidavit.

Who would be any the wiser though and who would prosecute for perjury for remarrying the same woman.