US was served their own dish, get used to it

38 minutes ago, J Town said:

It would be like exploding a ship in the water that you're sailing on. Can't be done.

Don't they do that in wars - explode each others ships?? The Monitor and The Merrimac? Pearl Harbor? The Bismark? 

29 minutes ago, kenk24 said:

Don't they do that in wars - explode each others ships?? The Monitor and The Merrimac? Pearl Harbor? The Bismark? 

They don't explode their own ships intentionally which is what Adam Schiff was saying he thought should possibly be done.

7 hours ago, Jeffr2 said:

They do.  But isn't there a difference between espionage and hacking another governments computers like this?  And election servers? 

Ahem...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_surveillance_disclosures_(2013–present)

8 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Will the USA continue to pretend that they don't do the most espionage in this world?

 

Are you privy to some type score card that you can share with this forum? Or, is your slanted comment revealing another agenda?

55 minutes ago, candide said:

Ahem...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_surveillance_disclosures_(2013–present)

Yeah...I guess they are about the same!  Anyway, I'm a tit for tat kinda guy when it comes to stuff like this.  One way or another...

1 hour ago, Benmart said:

Are you privy to some type score card that you can share with this forum? Or, is your slanted comment revealing another agenda?

Just have a look at the size of the NSA. Who in the world do you think might be able to compete with them?

You could also read or watch what Edward Snowden has to say.

And no, I don't have an exact comparison. For whatever strange reason those spies don't want to release too many details of their work.

12 hours ago, webfact said:

and retaliatory hacks on Russian

 

12 hours ago, webfact said:

Russian President Vladimir Putin

 

They wanna get personal with Vlad the short by bombarding him with pictures of platform shoes and grow-more compost bags .. and if he still persists I'd then send him pictures of toupee's and bottles of syrup of fig along with a message " Oi short ar*e cease and desist or it'll be the photo's of you and Don next " .. 

2 hours ago, Benmart said:

Are you privy to some type score card that you can share with this forum? Or, is your slanted comment revealing another agenda?

The answer was In the post before yours.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_surveillance_disclosures_(2013–present)

12 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Retaliatory hacks? Absolutely pathetic response but this is the democrats I remember. Thirsting for overseas confrontations with no clear strategy, and an abundance of vindictive pettiness. Please tell how getting in a huff and trying to hack Russia in retaliation will help Americans?

It's really very simple: It will help Americans by making the Russians think twice before doing something similar again.

Interesting to see that base trump supporters are still firmly behind trump's treasonous "let's bend over and take everything the boss in Moscow gives us" attitude.

China is America biggest  enemy and Russia is in second place. But if or when the Dems. get into power they will be friends again, as Trump always has them on the ropes and gives them nose bleeds.

Why is Biden's chief of staff addressing this and not Biden himself?  Biden needs to hold a press conference and let the American people know what's coming.

6 minutes ago, Kelsall said:

Why is Biden's chief of staff addressing this and not Biden himself?  Biden needs to hold a press conference and let the American people know what's coming.

No he doesn't. Even if he was already president, it's usually not done to signal exactly what's coming in advance when talking about retaliation against an enemy state.

7 minutes ago, Kelsall said:

Why is Biden's chief of staff addressing this and not Biden himself?  Biden needs to hold a press conference and let the American people know what's coming.

I agree, since the current president is not doing his job, perhaps Biden should do it for him. 

This is a bit like blaming the shark for biting someone ... the shark is just being a shark.  I don’t see the issue with the Russians exercising their capabilities to undermine a competing state.  It’s the responsibility of the US to protect themselves.  Do we think the NSA never does things like this overseas,  Israel, China, N Korea?

1 minute ago, chilli42 said:

This is a bit like blaming the shark for biting someone ... the shark is just being a shark.  I don’t see the issue with the Russians exercising their capabilities to undermine a competing state.  It’s the responsibility of the US to protect themselves.  Do we think the NSA never does things like this overseas,  Israel, China, N Korea?

Putin does remind me of a dangerous fish. 

1 hour ago, vandeventer said:

China is America biggest  enemy and Russia is in second place. But if or when the Dems. get into power they will be friends again, as Trump always has them on the ropes and gives them nose bleeds.

So in this case, Trump gets an uppercut from Putin resulting in a bloody nose, and Trump responds by threatening to hit China.Biden threatens to give Putin a bloody nose in return.

Now your reasoning seems to be bloody noses are good but I don't like it if Biden threatens to do that because Trump does nothing?

Sneak a little laxative into their vodka stills.  That'll fix their wagons.

This should come as no surprise. Russia has major resources that the CCP wants, they'll use their satellite state that possesses the world's most powerful military,  to acquire it, by whatever means necessary. 

Edited December 21, 20205 yr by Starmocihc

1 hour ago, Starmocihc said:

This should come as no surprise. Russia has major resources that the CCP wants, they'll use their satellite state that possesses the world's most powerful military,  to acquire it, by whatever means necessary. 

Russia is China's satellite state?

3 hours ago, vandeventer said:

China is America biggest  enemy and Russia is in second place. But if or when the Dems. get into power they will be friends again, as Trump always has them on the ropes and gives them nose bleeds.

Trump has shown off his reluctance to antagonize Putin. 

19 hours ago, Tug said:

Good !enough of trumps humping Putin’s leg make them howl!

Only if your idea of leg humping results in the highest probability of nuclear war with Russia since bay of pigs. Do you suppose Biden will lead the US to victory in nuclear war against Russia? Two minutes to midnight and the armchair warrior remains fearless. 

On 12/21/2020 at 6:25 AM, webfact said:

Biden chief of staff says hack response will go beyond 'just sanctions'

Good.  Everybody love a good war.  It will give all the unemployed Millennial and GenXer a satisfying job spreading freedom and democracy and a rules based international order to Russia and China.

Troll posts removed.   Continue posting nonsense social media posts and photos and you will receive a suspension.   This is a discussion forum.

 

On 12/21/2020 at 8:05 AM, Chomper Higgot said:

And the response from your boy was, defend Russia, blame China.

 

So the response from Trump and the Biden camp was both wrong, no?

On 12/22/2020 at 12:14 AM, Opl said:

Trump has shown off his reluctance to antagonize Putin. 

 

U.S. Escalates Online Attacks on Russia’s Power Grid

 

WASHINGTON — The United States is stepping up digital incursions into Russia’s electric power grid in a warning to President Vladimir V. Putin and a demonstration of how the Trump administration is using new authorities to deploy cybertools more aggressively, current and former government officials said.

 

In interviews over the past three months, the officials described the previously unreported deployment of American computer code inside Russia’s grid and other targets as a classified companion to more publicly discussed action directed at Moscow’s disinformation and hacking units around the 2018 midterm elections.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/15/us/politics/trump-cyber-russia-grid.html