Popular Post FritsSikkink Posted December 26, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 26, 2020 2 hours ago, Thailand said: Quite simple, stop the testing. It's worked fine for the past few months! They never stopped testing , don't spread lies. 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post FritsSikkink Posted December 26, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 26, 2020 7 minutes ago, Fex Bluse said: Recently leaked documents from China showing the government was lying from almost a year ago, under reporting numbers. Then,suddenly stopped counting at all. You have to be pretty gullible to believe China. I mean, everyone in the world knows the propensity to lie. Even the Chinese people know. ???? But seems you have not caught in yet? The Chinese lie, says somebody who has a president who is a pathological liar. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fex Bluse Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said: The Chinese lie, says somebody who has a president who is a pathological liar. You're right. Maybe all people in all countries and all governments lie the exact same amount. I mean EXACTLY the same amount. There are no differences at all between countries. We are all exactly the same in every way. ???? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dumbastheycome Posted December 26, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 26, 2020 9 minutes ago, Fex Bluse said: Recently leaked documents from China showing the government was lying from almost a year ago, under reporting numbers. Then,suddenly stopped counting at all. You have to be pretty gullible to believe China. I mean, everyone in the world knows the propensity to lie. Even the Chinese people know. ???? But seems you have not caught in yet? US Political propagandist China bashing on You.tube? ! What SARS pandemic that "devastated" Asia? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tarteso Posted December 26, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 26, 2020 Must to be a very danger and big Virus ... I can see in picture 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fex Bluse Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/full-list-cumulative-total-tests-per-thousand-map Are you surprised Thailand has among the LOWEST testing rates globally? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fex Bluse Posted December 26, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 26, 2020 1 minute ago, Dumbastheycome said: US Political propagandist China bashing on You.tube? ! What SARS pandemic that "devastated" Asia? I like your username ???? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jak2002003 Posted December 26, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 26, 2020 54 minutes ago, Natai Beach said: The Chinese didn’t deliberately catch coronavirus from animals at a meat market. But when they did they acted swiftly and effectively to limit it. They were not negligent with their handling of it and despite repeated fake claims they did actually warn that it was highly infectious. Wuhan is back to normal. The west didn’t listen, advised their citizens not to wear masks, Trump was deliberately downplaying it which he has admitted, Boris was running around pressuring people to shake his hand in hospitals with covid. Not surprising ly they both ended up catching it. Anutin warned the Thai people to be wary of westerners back in March as he could see that their behavior would lead it to spreading. Instead of listening to Health Minister Anutin they got in a huff because he said it. He has been proved correct unfortunately. Now we see the UK mutated strain which is much worse. If the UK had of cracked down on covid like China and Thailand did, we most likely would not have this stronger more dangerous strain which will kill hundreds of thousands. The Chinese eat wildlife. I think most countries do, Thailand does, Australia eats kangaroo, etc. China has the worlds second biggest economy currently. It will be the biggest, no stopping that now. The trajectory is clear. The Chinese are not into wars like the current number one nation, they generally mind their own business. Only conflict with Hong Kong, Taiwan etc that arguably they have a case to. That can’t be said for the current number 1, the USA, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Korea, Afghanistan, Syria, Iraq etc. The coronavirus most likely originated in China. The inactions of the west definitely is the main cause of the spread that has got us to where we are now. My goodness....where did you learn all that rubbish? Have you been in a brain washing machine? How anyone can get things so back to front is unbelievable....or are you making a joke? 3 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbastheycome Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, Fex Bluse said: I like your username ???? I'm willing to sell it to you ! ???? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fex Bluse Posted December 26, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 26, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, jak2002003 said: My goodness....where did you learn all that rubbish? Have you been in a brain washing machine? How anyone can get things so back to front is unbelievable....or are you making a joke? The CCP does have online trolls - called "wumao" - posting its propaganda all over the world online. There also are a reasonable number of Chinese at from firms like Huawei in Thailand who may be posting rubbish propaganda. Edited December 26, 2020 by Fex Bluse 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post WineOh Posted December 26, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 26, 2020 Surely the official line coming shortly will read something like: 'Burmese cleaner infects government house with Covid-19.' In fact, I would bet my bottom dollar on it if betting was not illegal here ???? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fex Bluse Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 8 minutes ago, Dumbastheycome said: US Political propagandist China bashing on You.tube? ! What SARS pandemic that "devastated" Asia? The leaked documents are from concerned CHINESE citizens working in the healthcare industry. Are you saying the Chinese Healthcare workers are US propagandists? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post FritsSikkink Posted December 26, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 26, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Fex Bluse said: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/full-list-cumulative-total-tests-per-thousand-map Are you surprised Thailand has among the LOWEST testing rates globally? Unlike in the West, the hospitals are not over run by people with Corona while the USA has 1 third of the world active cases. Edited December 26, 2020 by FritsSikkink 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fex Bluse Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 1 minute ago, FritsSikkink said: Unlike in the West, the hospitals are not over run by people with Corona You are deflecting which is an indication that I have won the argument. Have a pleasant day. No hard feelings. Maybe you will win one soon. ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Rodriguez Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 3 hours ago, rooster59 said: Six officials in the Prime Minister’s Office at Government House have tested positive for Covid-19 after random screening of its 700 staff. The six positive results came from the first batch of 350 staff whose saliva was screened with rapid test kits. The second batch will be tested on Monday. they should have done this many many months ago all over thailand this news now will make more people panic how many deaths again ? 60 in 10 months ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heist Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 Misunderstanding in 3.. 2.. 1.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post FritsSikkink Posted December 26, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 26, 2020 6 minutes ago, Fex Bluse said: You are deflecting which is an indication that I have won the argument. Have a pleasant day. No hard feelings. Maybe you will win one soon. ???? Typical Trump argument, you don't have an answer anymore and then you win. Goodbye and dream on about winning as it won't happen in real life. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThailandRyan Posted December 26, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 26, 2020 2 hours ago, Natai Beach said: Another one. So you are claiming the Samut Sakon or Chiang Rai outbreak didn’t come from Burma or the Burmese workers? The Chiang Rai outbreak came from returning Thai's who skirted the border and never entered Quarantine. Now the virus obviously was brought in from Myanmar, but it was brought in by Thai's. This spread could be a direct result of this as many Thais have illegally crossed back over as well and many probably never turned themselves in. You can not lay a 100% blame on the burmese workers Natai Beach. So look outside of the box and stop stereotyping like this government is doing. 3 hours ago, PatOngo said: Will be interesting to see if they can fabricate a Burmese angle on this one! They will try and link it to them after they test the media staff and find that they had been in Samut Sakhon to cover the initial outbreak and when they came back to Bangkok and went to Government house to cover the events there spread it to the Officials. That is my take on the spin they will use. This is spreading big time and they are not on top of the actual figures as it keeps morphing and showing up in other provinces. Try as they may in saying it came from Samut Sakhon is in my opinion a fallacy. It has been silently spreading until they tested because of a sickness from the Prawn market. Just like the initial outbreak in China they will not be able to track it back to one location and they need to stop playing the blame game and just move forward in trying to contain this virus. So far they have blamed the Burmese workers, Smugglers, and now even investigating officials. Boggles my mind at the energy they spend on trying to save FACE, when a lie told has to be covered by a bigger lie and so on until it can not be told anymore. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fex Bluse Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said: Typical Trump argument, you don't have an answer anymore and then you win. Goodbye and dream on about winning as it won't happen in real life. I hope you find peace. Yours is an honorable loss. Edited December 26, 2020 by Fex Bluse 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 (edited) double posted for some reason Edited December 26, 2020 by ThailandRyan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbastheycome Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 1 minute ago, Fex Bluse said: The leaked documents are from concerned CHINESE citizens working in the healthcare industry. Are you saying the Chinese Healthcare workers are US propagandists? "leaked documents" provided (directly ? ) to CNN . A video clip fronted by a Republican member of Congress deflecting from the abysmal failure of his GOP at a time of political need to save face? I am not defending CCP. I am questioning the motivation behind the deflection and the continuation of untruths in the process. Telling lies about lies simply buries the truth ever deeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BilCoz Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Fex Bluse said: You are deflecting which is an indication that I have won the argument. Have a pleasant day. No hard feelings. Maybe you will win one soon. ???? Youve been getting destroyed by Natai Beach, all you do is deny facts.. This last message is just another instance. Clearly the situation in hospitals shows there hasn't been an epidemic in Thailand, hence no reason for millions to get tested. People like you are the reason we're still where we're at a year on.. Make no mistake the CCP is absolutely loving it. Edited December 26, 2020 by BilCoz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThailandRyan Posted December 26, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 26, 2020 2 hours ago, Natai Beach said: It seems some people on this forum want Thailand to fail as regards to covid and many other things. Nasty. I believe the people on this form just want transparency and the lying and cover-ups to stop from the Government in the country we have chosen to live in. Wouldn't you want the truth in regards to something so you could make a better informed decision for yourself. I know I would, but without knowing the full truth as well as statistics they have hidden makes it hard. It might be easy for the Thai people as they have always lived with what's been given to them, while us expatriates/immigrants have made our own decisions and done things in ways we thought was best for our interests, which the many lower level Thai folks have not been able to do. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fex Bluse Posted December 26, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 26, 2020 4 minutes ago, BilCoz said: Youve been getting destroyed by Natai Beach, all you do is deny facts.. This last message is just another instance. Clearly the situation in hospitals shows there hasn't been an epidemic in Thailand, hence no reason for millions to get tested. People like you are the reason we're still where we're at a year on.. Make no mistake the CCP is absolutely loving it. You're absolutely right. And, I feel destroyed, too. I'm going to go and reflect on this. Thank you for helping me grow as a person. 1 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavisH Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 16 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said: I believe the people on this form just want transparency and the lying and cover-ups to stop from the Government in the country we have chosen to live in. Wouldn't you want the truth in regards to something so you could make a better informed decision for yourself. I know I would, but without knowing the full truth as well as statistics they have hidden makes it hard. It might be easy for the Thai people as they have always lived with what's been given to them, while us expatriates/immigrants have made our own decisions and done things in ways we thought was best for our interests, which the many lower level Thai folks have not been able to do. What is your evidence for lying and coverups. The fact is that over the last many months, people simply have not been presenting to hospitals with symptoms of coronavirus, aand those that have are returning negative results. Some of my wife's staff worked for BIDI (who treat coronavirus patients) for a short time at the height of the pandemic. Since then, the hospital has had very few patients with any flu symptoms. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bermondburi Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 In the BP article about, presumably the same six, there is no mention of government house. Just says that 4 of them had links to SS. Something strange going on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bermondburi Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 Now the Nation says that the 6 from government house were not positive at all. So the 6 in the BP must be a different 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThailandRyan Posted December 26, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 26, 2020 11 minutes ago, DavisH said: What is your evidence for lying and coverups. The fact is that over the last many months, people simply have not been presenting to hospitals with symptoms of coronavirus, aand those that have are returning negative results. Some of my wife's staff worked for BIDI (who treat coronavirus patients) for a short time at the height of the pandemic. Since then, the hospital has had very few patients with any flu symptoms. Glad to see you support and believe this Government 100%, even in light of the fact that testing has been limited and now the Stats are not being reported in total but now being split apart. A covid positive person is a Statistic and they should all be listed as one statistic, you can then extrapolate by nation and so on after the fact, but to hide the numbers further down in a report instead of it being inclusive at the top is a lie, and a coverup. Many people never go to a hospital for a cold or the common flu either, so how do you know what the numbers really are. With Covid they should be testing en-mass to see what the true numbers and spread is instead of being selective like they have been. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Yuley Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 4 hours ago, rooster59 said: Government House on alert after 6 officials test positive By The Nation Six officials in the Prime Minister’s Office at Government House have tested positive for Covid-19 after random screening of its 700 staff. The six positive results came from the first batch of 350 staff whose saliva was screened with rapid test kits. The second batch will be tested on Monday. The six whose results came back positive have been tested again via the swab method to confirm the infection, with the results due tomorrow (December 26). Government House has now been closed to outsiders, while all documents delivered to the building are being sterilised in a UV cabinet. The building will be sterilised in a deep-cleaning operation on Friday. Meanwhile the press pack at Government House have been warned they face rapid tests if the situation does not improve. Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30400247?utm_source=category&utm_medium=internal_referral -- © Copyright The Nation Thailand 2020-12-26 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates I cant stop laughing. Best news I have heard for all of 2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnmell Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 Hard luck,.they were retested and found negative according to the Bangkok Post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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