gafdtomaka366 Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 (edited) While abroad, I entered pincode incorrectly. I think I did it only once - 1 attemp. Maaaaaybe I made 2 attempts - I don't remember. My card got blocked for withdrawals, but continued to work for payments in general. So, only 1 attemp? If there're 3 attempts allowed though, what's a time frame between 2nd and 3rd ones so that incorrect attempts will get reseted to 0 and a card won't get blocked? The thing also is, one can unblock a card by phone only once. A second time one will have to ask for re-issuing a new one and pick it up in Thailand. Edited January 16, 2021 by gafdtomaka366 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukrules Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Note to self : Open second bank account Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bangyai Posted January 16, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 16, 2021 Kasikorn is also the only bank I know with the following message in Thai on the ATM machine : Be careful when entering your pin as there are gangs of foreigners stealing pin numbers. Or words to that effect. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post gafdtomaka366 Posted January 16, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted January 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Bangyai said: Be careful when entering your pin as there are gangs of foreigners stealing pin numbers. What???? Pin numbers??? Ho...... How??? I can even post here my pin. What would you do with it? 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangyai Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, gafdtomaka366 said: What???? Pin numbers??? Ho...... How??? I can even post here my pin. What would you do with it? Me ? Nothing. But apparently , there are criminals out there who make fake bank cards and attach stolen pin numbers to them to empty the account. Something like that. But if you want to go to the nearest Kasikorn bank and see the exact wording of the warning about foreign gangs you can easily confirm it for yourself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oliver Holzerfilled Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 On 1/16/2021 at 5:08 AM, gafdtomaka366 said: While abroad, I entered pincode incorrectly. I think I did it only once - 1 attemp. Maaaaaybe I made 2 attempts - I don't remember. My card got blocked for withdrawals, but continued to work for payments in general. So, only 1 attemp? If there're 3 attempts allowed though, what's a time frame between 2nd and 3rd ones so that incorrect attempts will get reseted to 0 and a card won't get blocked? The thing also is, one can unblock a card by phone only once. A second time one will have to ask for re-issuing a new one and pick it up in Thailand. How hard is it to enter a PIN correctly? Were you drunk? High? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonray Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 On 1/16/2021 at 6:45 PM, Bangyai said: Kasikorn is also the only bank I know with the following message in Thai on the ATM machine : Be careful when entering your pin as there are gangs of foreigners stealing pin numbers. Or words to that effect. Damn those swarthy foreigners with their pin stealing ways.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvdf Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 On 1/16/2021 at 12:45 PM, Bangyai said: Kasikorn is also the only bank I know with the following message in Thai on the ATM machine : Be careful when entering your pin as there are gangs of foreigners stealing pin numbers. Or words to that effect. Foreigners only. Those pesky evil ones of course. All locals are saints. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millymoopoo Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 On 1/16/2021 at 9:55 PM, Bangyai said: there are criminals out there who make fake bank cards and attach stolen pin numbers to them to empty the account. Something like that. The way I've seen it done, in a local news report on card security, is: The criminal has a card reader in a briefcase, they walk past you closely enough for the card reader to connect (via the chip in your card) and read the number. Usually your card is in your pocket in a wallet, easy for the secreted card reader to pass within a few millimetres to read the card successfully. At this point they have enough to make a new card that will only work if it's a 'tap and go' aka 'paywave'. Whatever your limit on 'tap and go' is, is the maximum they can use it for, purchases only, no cash withdrawals. The next stage is a hidden camera, secreted above the touch pad where you enter your PIN. So now they have both, your card number (from which they can create a new card) and your PIN. They then proceed to withdraw as much as they can as quick as they can. Most banks insure against this, when discovered, they immediately cancel your card, and in some, perhaps most cases eventually you will be compensated for the loss. But that is not a guarantee. Best to take as much responsibility for your financial security as possible, don't just expect that financial institutions will look after you, because they may not, especially if they can show that you have not taken security seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bangkok Barry Posted January 21, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 21, 2021 On 1/20/2021 at 3:05 AM, Oliver Holzerfilled said: How hard is it to enter a PIN correctly? Were you drunk? High? How often do you mis-type a word? Hmm? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Theory Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 I never keep more than a few k in my ATM account, if I need mere I transfer to the account and use it. No worries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skallywag Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 On 1/16/2021 at 6:08 PM, gafdtomaka366 said: While abroad, I entered pincode incorrectly. Was this 2019? Travelling abroad? Anyways good to know Kasikorn can be used outside of SE Asia. (Or can it?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skallywag Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 8 minutes ago, The Theory said: I never keep more than a few k in my ATM account, if I need mere I transfer to the account and use it. No worries. ATM account? I though all bank accounts gave you an ATM card for access? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlover Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 55 minutes ago, Skallywag said: ATM account? I though all bank accounts gave you an ATM card for access? You are not obliged to accept a card. I have an account with Krungsri for which I do not have, nor do I need an ATM card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweedledee2 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 Possibly the reason your failed PIN entry was blocked was because transaction had originated in a foreign country. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Theory Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 2 hours ago, Skallywag said: ATM account? I though all bank accounts gave you an ATM card for access? They give you an ATM card when you ask for it, otherwise you can just open a savings account without any ATM card and access only by book or transfer by app (or online banking). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigz Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 My UK cards were blocked several times in the past while abroad. With the correct pin entered. Apparently I failed to notify them about my travel plans. Outrageous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeall Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 On 1/16/2021 at 6:08 PM, gafdtomaka366 said: While abroad, I entered pincode incorrectly. I think I did it only once - 1 attemp. Maaaaaybe I made 2 attempts - I don't remember. My card got blocked for withdrawals, but continued to work for payments in general. So, only 1 attemp? If there're 3 attempts allowed though, what's a time frame between 2nd and 3rd ones so that incorrect attempts will get reseted to 0 and a card won't get blocked? The thing also is, one can unblock a card by phone only once. A second time one will have to ask for re-issuing a new one and pick it up in Thailand. ok, so now 1 million of us wont open an account with them, and as usual K bankd wont look at the problem... they see it as you are the problem because you told us.... talk about stupid.... its the way it is here.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefaultName Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 This highlights why I don't use cards at an ATM, but the cardless withdrawal instead. If I don't use a card at all, it can't be copied. Right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickudon Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Tried to pay online with my Kbank card today, declined. A rather common occurrence, especially when it is a foreign company you are trying to pay. My Uk credit card accepted everywhere..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gafdtomaka366 Posted January 23, 2021 Author Share Posted January 23, 2021 (edited) Stop discussing everything but anything related to my question. ???????????? Edited January 23, 2021 by gafdtomaka366 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caldera Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 On 1/21/2021 at 9:10 PM, DefaultName said: This highlights why I don't use cards at an ATM, but the cardless withdrawal instead. If I don't use a card at all, it can't be copied. Right? I do the same whenever possible. However, the OP wrote "while abroad", so that option doesn't exist. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefaultName Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 On 1/24/2021 at 8:31 AM, Caldera said: I do the same whenever possible. However, the OP wrote "while abroad", so that option doesn't exist. Missed that, thanks for correcting me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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