Holiday in the uk

[natway09]

It is a moving target. Nothing is cut in stone.

You will need to check your return closer to the rerurn date

[steve187]

21 hours ago, beano2274 said:

 

So you think that any Brit who returns to the UK can get the vaccination? Sorry but I know of many who returned from Thailand and could not get treatment for other issues straight away as they had not paid contributions for a long time, they had to wait 3 months before they could even see a doctor.

retired over state pensions age do not pay contributions

[treetops]

5 minutes ago, steve187 said:

retired over state pensions age do not pay contributions

 

Neither do retired under state pension age. ????

[KhaoYai]

5 hours ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

Of course, on the current vaccination schedule being used in the UK, you'd need to be there 3 months to get both doses

Possibly not.  A new vaccination centre has just opened near me and they will give the second jab after 4 weeks if its requested by your GP.  Both visitors and UK citizens can register with a GP.

 

Just to re-inforce the fact that those saying only British citizens are entitled to a jab are wrong:

No charges for coronavirus (COVID-19) testing, treatment and vaccination

Overseas visitors to England, including anyone living in the UK without permission, will not be charged for:

• testing for COVID-19 (even if the test shows they do not have COVID-19)
• treatment for COVID-19, including for a related problem called multisystem inflammatory syndrome that affects some children
• vaccination against COVID-19

No immigration checks are needed for overseas visitors if they are only tested, treated or vaccinated for COVID-19.

 

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/covid-19-migrant-health-guide#vitamin-d

Edited April 19, 2021 by KhaoYai

[polpott]

22 hours ago, beano2274 said:

Not likely to get vaccinated in the UK unless you can prove that you are a still a resident there, I would just stay in Thailand think flight cost, plus quarantine upon return which could be 10 days (ball park figure 40,000thb per person as per ASQ websites)

 

21 hours ago, beano2274 said:

 

So you think that any Brit who returns to the UK can get the vaccination? Sorry but I know of many who returned from Thailand and could not get treatment for other issues straight away as they had not paid contributions for a long time, they had to wait 3 months before they could even see a doctor.

 

20 hours ago, beano2274 said:

 

Very true, a mate of mine had required some treatment but had to wait a minimum of 3 months due to the fact that he moved back from Thailand, and could not prove he had returned permanently.

All complete BS. I returned for 3 weeks 2 years ago. registered with a GP in 30 minutes and saw a GP the following day. To qualify as resident all you have to do is say that you are returning permanently. No proof required.

 

I am returning on Friday. 10 days self quarantine with an option to reduce that to 5 days with a further test.

 

Haven't been back for 2 years but already have an appointment for the vaccine, one week today.

 

Any more complete BS you'd like to impart on us?

[superal]

23 hours ago, treetops said:

 

NHS treatment for Brits returning home gets discussed frequently on here and if anyone waits for 3 months then they only have themself to blame.

 

It appears that anyone with an NHS number can make their vaccination appointments on line in England, so even if not registered with a GP the OP could still get a jab if he wanted.

I arrived back in the UK on the eve of 28/03/21. Local doctor had no appointments for covid jabs but I went online and travelled 4 miles to a vaccination center . I made my appointment online but at the venue they had no record of my appointment but just took my details i.e. name , address , NHS number and I had the AZ jab . Have since been contacted about 2nd jab but I think I have to wait till 12 weeks after 1st jab . Also doctors general appointments are very slow because of covid ( I had to wait outside the surgery and was let in by admin straight to the doctor , no waiting room being used . NHS hospital waiting times are at an all time record i.e. 1 year wait and up cos there are 4,400,000  people waiting for medical procedures ,  covid legacy .

[smudger1951]

23 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

Did I miss a post from the OP?

Where did he mention the trip to UK was for vax jab.

Sounds like he was going for a visit. Stupid idea.

Popping back to the UK or anywhere and returning to LOS is just not an option. Just as I and many others are prevented from getting back to Thailand others are trapped in the country. As the doors begin to close again on international travel what is the future. ?

[superal]

 

7. For long-stay retirement visa holders (Non-Immigrant O/O-A/O-X) for people over 50 years old

- Copy of health insurance policy which covers medical treatment in Thailand (non-COVID-19 diseases) for outpatient not less than 40,000 Baht and inpatient not less than 400,000 Baht for the whole period of your stay in Thailand

- Copy of health insurance that covers COVID-19 related medical expenses, both inpatient and outpatient, no less than 100,000 USD for the whole period of your stay in Thailand

On 4/18/2021 at 6:38 AM, ubonjoe said:

I think I would avoid a holiday trip now.

See: https://london.thaiembassy.org/en/publicservice/requirements-for-foreigners-travelling-to-thailand-during-covid-19-tra?page=5d6636cd15e39c3bd00072dd&menu=5f4b6eb3f6ae4b236972c562

Hi Joe ,

Am I reading the above item 7 extract correctly , i.e. medical insurance needed for a non o retirement extension for which I have a re-entry visa stamp ? I thought insurance applied to a non o/a visa  .

 

[treetops]

6 minutes ago, superal said:

Am I reading the above item 7 extract correctly , i.e. medical insurance needed for a non o retirement extension for which I have a re-entry visa stamp ? I thought insurance applied to a non o/a visa  .

 

It's required for a  COE, but not for future new extensions.

[superal]

8 minutes ago, treetops said:

 

It's required for a  COE, but not for future new extensions.

Confusing , so do I need to get health insurance ? Covid I know is required for the remaining period of your visa .

[treetops]

You need  to satisfy both insurance requirements in order to get a COE.

[DrJack54]

47 minutes ago, smudger1951 said:

Popping back to the UK or anywhere and returning to LOS is just not an option. Just as I and many others are prevented from getting back to Thailand others are trapped in the country. As the doors begin to close again on international travel what is the future. ?

I'm aware that the Oz gov are making it difficult to exit Australia for its citizens/residents however was not aware UK had similar restrictions.

BTW, I gave the OP a laugh emote since I think anyone "having a holiday in UK" needs a huge Re-Think.

Edited April 19, 2021 by DrJack54

[superal]

16 minutes ago, treetops said:

You need  to satisfy both insurance requirements in order to get a COE.

So health and covid insurance needed for the remaining period of my visa extension ? i.e. 3 months as that cut the cost dramatically as opposed to an annual policy   

[polpott]

Just now, treetops said:

 

It's required for a  COE, but not for future new extensions.

Only if the Non O is valid (normally 3 months after issue). If you're returning on an extension of stay (retirement) and a re-entry premit its not required.

[treetops]

1 minute ago, polpott said:

Only if the Non O is valid (normally 3 months after issue). If you're returning on an extension of stay (retirement) and a re-entry premit its not required.

 

It doesn't say it explicitly on the website, but I'm sure I've read it on here that it's required for folk re-entering with an extension.

[falang1969]

9 hours ago, KhaoYai said:

Possibly not.  A new vaccination centre has just opened near me and they will give the second jab after 4 weeks if its requested by your GP.  Both visitors and UK citizens can register with a GP.

 

Just to re-inforce the fact that those saying only British citizens are entitled to a jab are wrong:

No charges for coronavirus (COVID-19) testing, treatment and vaccination

Overseas visitors to England, including anyone living in the UK without permission, will not be charged for:

• testing for COVID-19 (even if the test shows they do not have COVID-19)
• treatment for COVID-19, including for a related problem called multisystem inflammatory syndrome that affects some children
• vaccination against COVID-19

No immigration checks are needed for overseas visitors if they are only tested, treated or vaccinated for COVID-19.

 

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/covid-19-migrant-health-guide#vitamin-d

 

That is as clear as can be! Basically, ANYONE gets the Covid treatments/jabs!

 

Why do some people on here, suggest that we wouldn't get a free vaccination etc if we went back to the UK?

 

Thanks for the clarity!

 

 

[treetops]

13 hours ago, falang1969 said:

Why do some people on here, suggest that we wouldn't get a free vaccination etc if we went back to the UK?

 

I'm sure beano2274 will be back soon to tell us the cat stole his login. ????

 

[KhaoYai]

14 hours ago, falang1969 said:

Why do some people on here, suggest that we wouldn't get a free vaccination etc if we went back to the UK?

Similar things happen on almost all topics. People of course have a right to an opinion but when they do so, they should make it clear that it is their opinion, not a fact. Some people seem to like to appear to be 'in the know' and write in an authoritative manner that sadly, may well be taken as fact by some.

 

Personally I try to point out when I'm putting an opinion forward or to provide a reference when claiming something is factual.

[KhaoYai]

Back to the OP's request for information on returning to the UK.

 

I would say keep abreast of the policies of both countries in terms of their individual requirements as they are changing all the time.

 

Of equal importance is the choice of airline - whilst it is at the moment very possible to travel between Thailand and the UK, finding a flight that doesn't land you in hot water needs to be watched - again this is a mobile situation. The airline (if also returning on it) must also be on Thailand's list of permitted companies able to carry passengers to Thailand.

 

We are hoping that my wife will be able to travel to the UK again this year but as things stand at the moment, she will not be able to use my usual airline - Etihad. The UAE is on the UK's Red List (yes even if you only transit through it) so that's Etihad and Emirates out at the moment (it also means that I won't be able to pay for her ticket using my fast expiring air miles????). Of course a British or Irish citizen can travel on those airlines and enter the UK but they will be subject to paid Hotel Quarantine when they arrive.

 

At the moment Qatar, Etihad and Emirates are all very popular for travel between the 2 countries and are all on the UK's red list. India will also be added this week and I suspect that Turkey will be added shortly (60,000+ new infections daily) - so that will be another popular airline out - Turkish Airlines.

 

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/transport-measures-to-protect-the-uk-from-variant-strains-of-covid-19

 

So may advice would be (much the same as we are doing regarding my wife's planned trip), plan your travel by all means but leave your bookings until the last minute. Keep checking the requirements of both countries taking account of both their entry and quarantine requirements and the airlines permitted to travel (with passengers) between them - taking particular account of the UK's red list countries.

 

Of course, paramount here will be the UK's forthcoming announcement of which countries are allocated which colour in the new traffic light system. When that system was first announced I predicted Thailand would be given a 'green light' - in the light of the recent outbreak and the lack of vaccinations in Thailand, it could very well be given an 'amber light', which will mean 10 days home quarantine and additional testing:

 

Amber: arrivals will need to quarantine for a period of 10 days and take a pre-departure test, and a PCR test on day 2 and day 8 with the option for Test to Release on day 5 to end self-isolation early.

 

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/global-travel-taskforce-sets-out-framework-to-safely-reopen-international-travel

 

If the OP really wants to book he should check the refund policy of the chosen airline in case of changes - its looking more and more like we will have to book with Thai but I'd want to be as sure as possible about them as I hear their refunds take ages.

 

I don't have an up to date list of the airlines permitted to carry passengers TO Thailand at the moment - perhaps someone does?

 

My apologies for the long winded post but there's a lot to consider at the moment.

 

 

Edited April 20, 2021 by KhaoYai

[KhaoYai]

4 hours ago, KhaoYai said:

At the moment Qatar, Etihad and Emirates are all very popular for travel between the 2 countries

Slight correction - too late to edit.

 

That should say Qatar, Etihad and Emirates were very popular for travel between the 2 countries pre covid (Qatar to some extent during).

[treetops]

19 hours ago, KhaoYai said:

I don't have an up to date list of the airlines permitted to carry passengers TO Thailand at the moment - perhaps someone does?

 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ijBJOTgFJPAuWUfkPIA60iniXB9j9Ba2XHafXzA6JCw/edit#gid=2100613241