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Deputy chief of the metropolitan police Pol Maj-Gen Piya Tawichai attended a one and a half hour meeting with officials at an eastern area university.

 

This followed the death of 22 year old Wiraphat "Pleum" Tamklang in an apparent hazing case, reported Daily News.

 

Hazing is the practice of older students demanding that younger ones entering a new year perform certain tasks or activities, notes Thaivisa. 

 

These can be demeaning or in some cases downright dangerous and have caused death and serious injury in the past. 

 

The police have decided there is enough evidence from CCTV and  witness statements for them to pursue arrest warrants against 12 students from the third year.

 

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Piya said that the case was related to "rap nong mai" (hazing) carried out by elder pupils punishing second year students in relation to their receiving of year one students. 

 

Kicking was involved. Some were female. 

 

In addition investigations are underway to discover if staff at the university are responsible for dereliction of a duty of care in permitting the hazing to occur.

 

This could result in staff losing their jobs. 

 

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21 minutes ago, webfact said:

Piya said that the case was related to "rap nong mai" (hazing) carried out by elder pupils punishing second year students in relation to their receiving of year one students. 

Kicking was involved. Some were female. 

 

Techno school. Figures. 

 

This is just so wrong on any level and should be mandatory scratched out by any school. This was on the Thai news 2 days ago. CC tv showed them carrying the body out by four people each holding an arm and leg. Kid was 22 and an engineering student. looked like a nice kid in his photo.

Edited June 10, 20215 yr by holy cow cm

19 minutes ago, webfact said:

Hazing is the practice of older students

acting like bullying thugs.

24 minutes ago, webfact said:

Hazing is the practice of older students demanding that younger ones entering a new year perform certain tasks or activities, notes Thaivisa. 

 

These can be demeaning or in some cases downright dangerous and have caused death and serious injury in the past. 

 

 

Sounds like how the army abuses its lo-so conscripts.

 

 

Edited June 10, 20215 yr by Hayduke

5 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

acting like bullying thugs.

Just in practice for later life and employment in a number of various fields. 

Never really got the whole hazing thing, we got it in the Netherlands too even a few that ended fatally too. There are laws against it but some people seem to think its ok. I doubt this is only in Thailand as we have it in the Netherlands too and at good universities too. 

 

Stupid that these things still exist.

Incredibly sad, but unlikely to stop especially when you consider that the military who run the country set a terrible example when they also partake in this practice on it's young recruits.

 

 

Make management the first line of responsibility with jail terms for outcomes such as this one. That will help bring it to a stop. 

1 hour ago, Bluespunk said:

acting like bullying thugs.

Obviously aspiring to be part of the government

This hazing is heavy in Asia where it is used to reinforce the most important sociocultural concept - hierarchy. It will not stop. They are predisposed to it.

 

 

Just sad to see how low some of our Homos Sapiens species can go. Let's hope those empathy-depraved subhumans will face life sentences.

Edited June 10, 20215 yr by Freigeist365

4 hours ago, webfact said:

Kicking was involved. Some were female. 

Crazy times.

4 hours ago, webfact said:

n addition investigations are underway to discover if staff at the university are responsible for dereliction of a duty of care in permitting the hazing to occur.

They are going to take no responsibility at all, we know nothing...

regards Worgeordie

4 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Incredibly sad, but unlikely to stop especially when you consider that the military who run the country set a terrible example when they also partake in this practice on it's young recruits.

 

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46282988

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_hazing_deaths_in_the_United_States

https://www.vice.com/en/article/9k485a/the-tragic-story-of-the-british-student-who-died-during-an-initiation-ritual

 

Sorry i want to put some Dutch hazing deaths here too but its in Dutch so i can't 

 

But suffice to say its not an Thai military thing but something that happens in the US the UK the Netherlands too.

We should not act too superior.

 

44 minutes ago, robblok said:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46282988

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_hazing_deaths_in_the_United_States

https://www.vice.com/en/article/9k485a/the-tragic-story-of-the-british-student-who-died-during-an-initiation-ritual

 

Sorry i want to put some Dutch hazing deaths here too but its in Dutch so i can't 

 

But suffice to say its not an Thai military thing but something that happens in the US the UK the Netherlands too.

We should not act too superior.

 

 

Please stay on topic. This is about a hazing death at a Thai university. Just because it also happens outside Thailand doesn't make it okay.

 

1 minute ago, tubby johnson said:

 

Please stay on topic. This is about a hazing death at a Thai university. Just because it also happens outside Thailand doesn't make it okay.

 

Its not ok, but to link it to the military is also not ok, that is why i gave other countries as an example. Because it happens in those other countries i mentioned too and the military has no say in it. So that was my point.

 

Hazing is never ok.

This is the result of the bullying practices perpetrated by teachers in Thai Schools. These people have learned at school that violence towards 'inferiors' is permitted and actually encouraged. The Bullied often become the future bullies

Edited June 10, 20215 yr by RobU

12 minutes ago, RobU said:

This is the result of the bullying practices perpetrated by teachers in Thai Schools. These people have learned at school that violence towards 'inferiors' is permitted and actually encouraged. The Bullied often become the future bullies

If that were true.. then how do you explain it in the USA (deaths there too) Uk (also deaths) Netherlands (also deaths). I don't think your explanation is correct. But I can't give you an other explanation but given the fact that it happens in the west too where violence is not encouraged and permitted your conclusion is not full proof.

I wonder how many student protesters recently claiming to be fighting for "human rights" were involved in humiliating, degrading and dangerous hazing rituals...

Have to say best punishment would be 5 years in the army for them.

5 hours ago, Fex Bluse said:

This hazing is heavy in Asia where it is used to reinforce the most important sociocultural concept - hierarchy. It will not stop. They are predisposed to it.

 

 

Of course it will stop. If it happens then the University or college staff responsible for new students should automatically be jailed for a minimum of 1 year and lose their jobs and never be allowed a similar job in education again. The senior students should automatically sacked from the uni or college, never allowed any more schooling, and a minimum 5 year jail sentence.

 

Make the rules and punishments hard and enforce them every time.

 

 

24 minutes ago, billd766 said:

Of course it will stop. If it happens then the University or college staff responsible for new students should automatically be jailed for a minimum of 1 year and lose their jobs and never be allowed a similar job in education again. The senior students should automatically sacked from the uni or college, never allowed any more schooling, and a minimum 5 year jail sentence.

 

Make the rules and punishments hard and enforce them every time.

 

 

Is that the price of a life? 1 or 5 years and loose your position?

8 hours ago, webfact said:

In addition investigations are underway to discover if staff at the university are responsible for dereliction of a duty of care in permitting the hazing to occur.

The very fact that this is a recurring issue, which has not been dealt with by university staff,  indicates a complete lack of interest. 

34 minutes ago, JWRC said:

Is that the price of a life? 1 or 5 years and loose your position?

No, but it will be enough to prompt those in authority to stop it.

5 hours ago, Freigeist365 said:

Just sad to see how low some of our Homos Sapiens species can go. Let's hope those empathy-depraved subhumans will face life sentences.

Maybe some Pithecanthropus genes got through

2 hours ago, JWRC said:

Is that the price of a life? 1 or 5 years and loose your position?

Think about all the people killed in road crashes where they are the victim. Very few of the drivers involved go to jail, so what IS a life worth in Thailand?

 

Well the Uni or college staff are rarely physically involved though the responsibility belongs to them. losing the position would automatically bar you from any position in the education system for the rest of your life.

5 years in jail and being kicked out of Uni or college and never getting a degree rules you out of a good job for life.

I don't expect that anybody thought that he would die so the best case for the police would be involuntary manslaughter. 

9 hours ago, Fex Bluse said:

This hazing is heavy in Asia where it is used to reinforce the most important sociocultural concept - hierarchy. It will not stop. They are predisposed to it.

 

 

It happens all over the world, even in expensive hi so boarding schools in the UK.

20 hours ago, Fex Bluse said:

This hazing is heavy in Asia where it is used to reinforce the most important sociocultural concept - hierarchy. It will not stop. They are predisposed to it.

 

 

Popular in The Philippines too, where (my guess) they copy their fellows in the US. Not much in Indonesia or Malaysia.

Not at all common in Italy where I am from, never heard, never seen any episode in many years of High School and University, never heard from any friend, although my mum used to tell me hazing was present in the 30s/40s.

Used to be normal practice for rookies in the Italian Army on the first 3 months - only until it has been mandatory service. 

21 hours ago, robblok said:

If that were true.. then how do you explain it in the USA (deaths there too) Uk (also deaths) Netherlands (also deaths). I don't think your explanation is correct. But I can't give you an other explanation but given the fact that it happens in the west too where violence is not encouraged and permitted your conclusion is not full proof.

Unfortunately the rules in the UK are inadequate they do not stop teachers from humiliating their pupils at will, this is taken by 'the favourites' to mean that the humiliated child is fair game for peer bullying and degradation. Bullying by teachers has not been stamped out in the west it is merely more subtle and less difficult to prove. One year as an information manager at a large school listening to the comments of some (usually male) teachers taught me this. The children know exactly what is happening and know that the punishment meted out by their peers is effectively on behalf of their teacher

Bullies committing murder.

Edited June 14, 20215 yr by vinny