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What are TV members opinions on this.

Should a defacto relationship be treated as a finacee and be required to get married and should a wife that deserts her husband within 5 years be returned to her country.

It will be interesting to see the replies.

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I think the de-facto is a good visa coz not everyone wants to get married. However, to stop it from being abused, I do think the visa should be reviewed or at the most cancelled if the relationship ends. This would be fair so you could get a visa and live together without getting married, but would still be subject to having the visa cancelled if the relationship ended. This decision would not be based on anything in particular, many things would need to be considered.

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Should a defacto relationship be treated as a fiancée and be required to get married?

No, no one no matter what the circumstances should be forced to get, or be considered married. I do not care if the couple lives together for fifty years if they don’t take the step to go make it official then they should not be considered married in the eyes of the law or in the eyes of anyone else.

Should a wife that deserts her husband within 5 years be returned to her country?

I actually like the way Thailand works their visa system in regard to relatives and wish the US would do the same – renew every year. But make the visa rather easy to obtain based upon marriage.

I don’t particularly care how long the wife/husband have been married before they scat, if the basis for the visa was being married, once the marriage has ended the visa should as well. If the individual wants to remain in the country they should have to apply and be accepted in a new visa category.

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Should a defacto relationship be treated as a fiancée and be required to get married?

No, no one no matter what the circumstances should be forced to get, or be considered married. I do not care if the couple lives together for fifty years if they don’t take the step to go make it official then they should not be considered married in the eyes of the law or in the eyes of anyone else.

Should a wife that deserts her husband within 5 years be returned to her country?

I actually like the way Thailand works their visa system in regard to relatives and wish the US would do the same – renew every year. But make the visa rather easy to obtain based upon marriage.

I don’t particularly care how long the wife/husband have been married before they scat, if the basis for the visa was being married, once the marriage has ended the visa should as well. If the individual wants to remain in the country they should have to apply and be accepted in a new visa category.

Posit.

Boy holidays in exotic Thailand.

Boy meets girl.

Boy is young , handsome and charming.

Girl is a little stunner.

Boy decides to take girl back home.

Girl thinks she is very lucky , gets through the grilling at the embassy in Bangkok , quits her job in the beauty shop and grabs the plane at Swampy.

Girl finds farangland daunting , confusing and cold mak mak.

Girl strives and persists , learns farang , gets a job , life is great.

Boy loses job.

Boy cannot get new job.

Boy finds freelance position trading in non-prescription pharmaceuticals.

Boy becomes unpredictable and often violent , through sampling his own wares.

Girl deserts boy.

Boy reports girl to immigration and they deport her.

Would that problems were always that simple to solve.

:o

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I have been living with my Thai partner in a de-facto relationship for four years. She is a permanent Australian resident and will soon be applying for Australian Citizenship.

She has a full time job, loves Australia, has made many new Australian friends and is quite happy regarding our living arrangement.

For strong, personal reasons I never wanted to marry and when we applied for a 'Spouse Visa - De-facto' from the Australian Embassy, Bangkok, we were told that this category of visa was very difficult to obtain. I had to convince the powers to be at the Embassy that our relationship was genuine and explain why I had chosen not to marry.

As well as disclosing some of my personal reasons for this decision, I produced statistics that showed more and more couples are opting to live together rather than walk down the aisle. I suggested that the Government would be guilty of discrimination should they deny us the opportunity to live together in my country of birth just because of some bureaurcratic policy. No one should be forced to marry under any circumstances.

The visa was subsequently granted.

I treat our relationship as a marriage and plan to live the rest of my life happily with her.

Should the unthinkable happen and we did split, I would have the same obligations as a legally married couple, regarding settlement arrangements. The only difference being that the matter would be heard and determined in a normal court of law rather than a family law court.

If we did split, I certainly wouldn't expect or want my partner to be herded out of Australia. She has as much right to remain here as other Immigrants who have made Australia their home.

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