A_Traveller Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 I posted this in the poll thread,but this may explain why things are taking their time. It looks like they first they read the charges, then the defence, which the second judge to speak is now doing, then the verdict {by a third judge?} for the democrats and then the same process for the TRT issues. I think Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losangels Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 I don't know much about Thai law and proceedings. But from what my take on listening from the radio, do all the judges have to read the charges and defenses for all the accused political parties before a verdict can be given Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tywais Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 Also, if you watch the SET and it's changes during the reading it would appear to find the current readings favorable. Will be interesting to see what effect the TRT readings will have. http://www.set.or.th/th/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai Dee Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 Private sector says party dissolution verdicts will have direct effect on the stock market Vice President of the Siam City Securities Co.,Ltd. expects that the verdicts on the party dissolution case this afternoon will greatly affect trading in the Stock Exchange of Thailand (SET) this week. He says many sides hope that the verdicts will turn out positively to prevent damages to the country’s economy and politics. Vice President of the Siam City Securities Sukit Udomsirikul (สุกิจ อุดมศิริกุล) says SET’s morning trading of today (May, 30th) is slightly active and the afternoon trading is up by 5.21 or 733 points. The overall value of today’s trading is 8.7 billion baht. The most active stocks include PTT, PTT Exploration and Production (PTTEP), Bangkok Bank, Kasikorn Bank, and Thai Oil. Source: Thai National News Bureau Public Relations Department - 30 May 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sriracha john Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 We Westerners sure are an impatient lot.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai Dee Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 (edited) Urgent: Democrat not guilty for breaching election law The Constitution Tribunal rules that election law has expired after the coup so the Democrat was cleared in one of four charges. The Nation Breaking News Edited May 30, 2007 by Jai Dee typo (by The Nation) corrected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_Traveller Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 (edited) We Westerners sure are an impatient lot.... It's worth noting that the reading into the record process is not unknown in the West either, and so the court is following its formal procedure, especially since AFAIK there is no appeal possible. I seem to recall the same process for Thaksin's asset concealment charges. Regards /edit typo // Edited May 30, 2007 by A_Traveller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxi101 Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 ... if you like to see action, watch a Schwarzenegger movie .... sensation greedy folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce1 Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 Perfectly normal legal procedure. Verdicts can take days in complicated cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mobi Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 (edited) So far very confusing, and still 3 more to go. The ruling was the first verdict in four counts of charges against the Democrat.Judge Somchai read the verdict, saying the organic law had not been exempted by any coup order so it was annulled by the coup. The tribunal is still reading other verdicts. The Nation Edited May 30, 2007 by Mobi D'Ark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiPauly Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 So its unlikely that their party will face dissolution then? A good start, but although I dont speak Thai the teletext below keeps saying that Thaksin is guilty of many wrongdoings. we shall have to wait and see what the verdict is on him and TRT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mobi Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 So its unlikely that their party will face dissolution then?A good start, but although I dont speak Thai the teletext below keeps saying that Thaksin is guilty of many wrongdoings. we shall have to wait and see what the verdict is on him and TRT Nothing is clear yet. Still awaiting news on the other 3 charges - then we get the TRT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai Dee Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 3:45 pm: Prime Minister Surayud Chulanont returns to the Government House for a meeting with the Council for National Security. The Constitution Tribunal is still reading its verdict on the Democrat Party. 3:30 pm: Prime Minister Surayud Chulanont leaves the Government House. He visits National Intelligence Agency officials. From The Nation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mobi Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 Tribunal rules suit against Democrat legitimate The Constitution Tribunal ruled Wednesday that the Democrat Party had not breached the MPs and Senatorial Election Act because the act had lapsed after the coup.The ruling was the first of four points of legal considerations related to the case of the Democrat. Reading the legal interpretations before the verdict, Judge Somchai said the organic election had not been exempted by any coup order so it was annulled by the coup. But the Democrat lost in the second, third and fourth points of legal disputes. In the second point of judicial reviews, the tribunal ruled that the suit against the Democrat was legitimate because the party was not given enough time and the election commission did not rush to file charges against the party as claimed by the Democrat. In the third point of review, the tribunal ruled that EC chairman had filed the suit against the Democrat in line with the party law. In the fourth point of disputes, the tribunal ruled that the suit was still legitimate although the election was annulled because the alleged crime had already committed. The tribunal is still reading other verdicts. The Nation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai Dee Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 Deputy TRT leader takes refuge in safe house The former Defence Minister and Thai Rak Thai Party deputy leader, Gen. Thammarak Isarangura Na Ayutthaya, declined to critique the decision of the Constitutional Court today (May 30). Reporters conducted a telephone interview with Gen. Thammarak to get his views on the Constitutional Court's political party dissolution verdict. He declined to criticize the court's ruling and only stated briefly that he does not wish to express his views on the matter at this time. Gen. Thammarak revealed that he is currently following televised coverage of the Constitutional Court's decision at his safe house in an undisclosed location. Gen. Thammarak affirmed that members of the Thai Rak Thai Party will not be gathering to discuss events transpiring today and that he would not hold a press conference. Source: Thai National News Bureau Public Relations Department - 30 May 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai Dee Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 Thai Rak Thai Party 3:50 pm : More people are coming to the Thai Rak Thai headquarter to show their support while the tribunal is reading the verdict of the Democrat Party case. The verdict on the TRT case will follow the Democrats'. From The Nation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sriracha john Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 (edited) "showtopic number" changed for this thread? from email notification : http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?sh...view=getnewpost = Board message (does not exist) thread topic number used to be 122885, now it's 1231288 Edited May 30, 2007 by sriracha john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orchis Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 My friend got an sms that Democrat Party has been found NOT guilty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 My friend got an sms that Democrat Party has been found NOT guilty of one of 4 counts ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyrolover2000 Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 Any word on the TRT verdict yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_Traveller Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 (edited) Any word on the TRT verdict yet? Only had 1 out of 4 for Democrats, even though the Judge has talked about everything under the sun even CTX scanners! If this continues I don't see them even getting to TRT before 6 Regards /edit typo // Edited May 30, 2007 by A_Traveller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quiksilva Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 (edited) They haven't finished with the Democrats yet edit, agreed perhaps they don't want to issue a verdict until its late at night and everyone is tucked up in bed. From the Nation's editor's blog The Tribunal ruled that all the activities were nornal political practices that benefited the Thai public interests. The Tribunal said the Democrats did not discourage people from going to the poll, but instead encouraged the public to vote "abstension" to protest against Thaksin. Edited May 30, 2007 by quiksilva Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai Dee Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 Chiang Rai reports no major political activity Chiang Rai officials report no major political movements in response to Constitutional Court’s verdict on the political parties’ dissolution case today (May 30). Police, military and administrative officials continue to monitor conditions in Chiang Rai province in order to prevent violent incidents from occurring. A large number of checkpoints have been established throughout the province to screen for suspicious groups of people who may be attempting to travel to Bangkok to or to the Chiang Rai provincial hall to conduct political demonstrations. Meanwhile, Chiang Rai police have deployed four companies of crowd control officers to safeguard the provincial hall, in preparation for possible unrest following the court’s ruling this afternoon. Source: Thai National News Bureau Public Relations Department - 30 May 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkside Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 my Thai mate doesn't reckon they will be finished till about 10 tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai Dee Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 TRT caretaker Khunying Sudarat demands the government and CNS return power to Thai people soon Thai Rak Thai Party acting deputy leader Sudarat Keyuraphan urges the interim government and the Council for National Security (CNS) to organize a meeting between political parties so they can discuss the upcoming election and the return of power to the Thai people. Khunying Sudarat insists that whatever the Constitutional Court's verdict on the party dissolution case will be, the supporters should stay put and they should not get involved with any political movement. Most importantly, the Thai Rak Thai Party respects and follows His Majesty the King's royal speech. She views people can still support her party's policy whether or not the party would be dissolved, adding that it is too soon to address the party's future plan. Source: Thai National News Bureau Public Relations Department - 30 May 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 Did any of the elephants manage to get into Bangkok? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai Dee Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 "showtopic number" changed for this thread? from email notification : http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?sh...view=getnewpost = Board message (does not exist) thread topic number used to be 122885, now it's 1231288 My apologies for that... mea culpa. A thread merge went wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammered Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 Considering the high profile of this case it is good that so much background is read into the record and also being listened to by a huge national audience. It is also good that to date the reading of the verdict to date is concentrating on the law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John K Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 "showtopic number" changed for this thread? from email notification : http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?sh...view=getnewpost = Board message (does not exist) thread topic number used to be 122885, now it's 1231288 My apologies for that... mea culpa. A thread merge went wrong. Operator malfunction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terryp Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 Can’t get onto Bangkokpost.net or com, must be very heavy traffic…I’d better have another beer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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