Travel to and from France

[notrub]

17 09 2021

 

I must go to France next month to report for my residency permit (must do).  I can fly to Lyon so will be staying in France (no side trips to other countries).  I am double vaccinated but the first shot was sinovac, second astra zeneca.  Here is first question.  Can I request another astra zeneca here in Buriram and hope for a yes?  Or where can I pay for one?  (that would give me 3 shots total)  They do not accept sinovac in France.  On my return, (can I return?) must I quarantine in BKK? I will drive to the AP so will have my car there to come back home to Buriram where I could self isolate in my house.  I am married (Thai) and have a retirement visa in my UK passport.  (I know it sounds confusing but, there you go).  Thanks for any comments & information.

[RubbaJohnny]

IMHO it may be impossible to preict local regime even the day you land. In addition to arbitrary changes the mutations may change in each location.Good luck or bonne chance as they say.

 

Plan B

.Perhaps you could deliver the navy one of the unwanted French subs?

[cormanr7]

I would strongly urge you to call your embassy in Bangkok and check whether the Thai AZ vaccine certificate (or the yellow passport, both with two AZ shots) is valid in your country. Officially it is NOT (applies to the whole EU) as Siam Bioscience has apparently not registered their product with the EMA. I checked with the Dutch embassy (few weeks ago) and they said NO, not valid. I have read similar comments on the forum here for Spain and Greece.

Also note the following restrictions within France (https://www.gouvernement.fr/en/coronavirus-covid-19)

 

HEALTH PASS    You must present a health pass to access leisure and culture venues and events bringing together more than 50 people.
From early August, you will also need to present a pass in bars, restaurants, malls, hospitals (except if you are admitted for urgent care), retirement homes, residential care homes, and for long-distance travel by plane, train or coach. For campsites, and other holiday accommodation you will need to present a pass once, on arrival.

Edited September 19, 2021 by cormanr7
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[cormanr7]

Further note: France has a system whereby visitors from outside the EU (including those from USA/Canada) can apply for a QR code which is equivalent to the EU DCC (digital heath pass) before they depart for France https://www.connexionfrance.com/French-news/How-tourists-can-get-a-Covid-vaccine-QR-code-recognised-in-France, https://www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/en/coming-to-france/coronavirus-advice-for-foreign-nationals-in-france/coronavirus-statements/article/applying-for-a-covid-certificate-if-you-were-vaccinated-abroad-procedure-for. For this you have to submit various documents, including your foreign health pass/certificate/passport online.

However, even if you can get a second AZ shot, such an application will likely be declined for reasons outlined in my previous post. However, it certainly does not hurt to try this. 

If you manage to go to France, I would suspect that you have to quarantine upon return here. I doubt whether the Bangkok sandbox (if and when it starts) will be very different from Phuket with respect to quarantine and tests (maybe less, or some PCR replaced with ATK?). 

Edited September 19, 2021 by cormanr7
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[notrub]

Thank you very much.  It appears that the European approve vaccines will not be arriving in Thailand until the new year (according to friends who have booked a moderna vaccination).  Will follow up the links you sent.  Thanks again.

[Puccini]

I have seen posts from people who already had both doses of the Pfizer vaccine (Comirnaty) and I believe this is approved in the EU and Schengen area.

[sucher]

On 9/24/2021 at 8:49 PM, Puccini said:

I have seen posts from people who already had both doses of the Pfizer vaccine (Comirnaty) and I believe this is approved in the EU and Schengen area.

Can you remember where you have seen the Posts ?

[notrub]

https://visaguide.world/news/vaccine-checker-proof-of-immunity-for-travel/                         https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/news/ema-recommends-covid-19-vaccine-astrazeneca-authorisation-eu

https://ansm.sante.fr/dossiers-thematiques/covid-19-vaccins/covid-19-vaccins-autorises

 

Don't know if these sites can help.  I was looking more for AZ.  But at a glance I think 2 of these sites have full lists of vaccines and where they are approved.