roxnadz Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 (edited) 22 hours ago, Danderman123 said: You are terribly misinformed. Vaccination can prevent infections by up to 90%. Although vaccinated individuals suffering rare breakthrough infections can carry the same viral load as an infected person, they do so for a much shorter time period. If the vax is so effective in preventing infection, then why are drug companies already pushing boosters for everyone, not even a full year after the vaccines' introduction? https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/15/covid-booster-shots-moderna-releases-data-on-breakthrough-cases-backing-need-for-third-doses.html https://www.staradvertiser.com/2021/11/09/breaking-news/study-shows-dramatic-decline-in-effectiveness-of-all-3-covid-19-vaccines-over-time/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24895500/ We know the vaccine isn't sterilizing. We know it is a leaky vaccine that doesn't offer the kind of protection that, say, a smallpox vaccine does. We are already seeing increasing numbers of infections among the fully vaccinated. It doesn't matter that the time period is shorter, it matters whether they get and spread the virus or not. Please GTFO with this utter nonsense. Or try and base it on some data that isn't months old. ???? Also, none of this has anything to do with Thailand Pass or the fact that this scheme is going to ultimately fail until they drop these ludicrous, nonsense requirements, especially since you have a better chance of getting COVID while you're in Thailand after jumping through all these hoops! Edited November 10, 2021 by roxnadz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 4 hours ago, roxnadz said: If the vax is so effective in preventing infection, As has been stated many many times, the vax is effective in preventing symptomatic covid and death from covid, not so much at preventing infection. A vaccinated person is likely 'infected' for lesser time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roxnadz Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 (edited) 14 hours ago, jacko45k said: As has been stated many many times, the vax is effective in preventing symptomatic covid and death from covid, not so much at preventing infection. A vaccinated person is likely 'infected' for lesser time. You all keep stressing that point like it matters. Any time you’re infected is too long, especially when you don’t present with any symptoms, as people who have been accepted for Thailand Pass only to test positive on arrival are unfortunately finding out. Do better with your research. The data is out there. FWIW while I would easily qualify for Thailand Pass and seriously want to come to Thailand, I won’t play these stupid games as long as they’re in force. Edited November 11, 2021 by roxnadz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 7 hours ago, roxnadz said: You all keep stressing that point like it matters It does matter...... far too many simple minds fail to grasp that fact and are assuming, if they had 2 vaccinations, they cannot get Covid. You just said it too..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roxnadz Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 10 hours ago, jacko45k said: It does matter...... far too many simple minds fail to grasp that fact and are assuming, if they had 2 vaccinations, they cannot get Covid. You just said it too..... So if we know that, then why is Thailand basing Thailand Pass and its entire reopening around people who are supposedly safer because they are vaxxed? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 24 minutes ago, roxnadz said: So if we know that, then why is Thailand basing Thailand Pass and its entire reopening around people who are supposedly safer because they are vaxxed? You could also ask why Thailand also requires them to have two negative tests along with being fully vaccinated! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roxnadz Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 4 hours ago, jacko45k said: You could also ask why Thailand also requires them to have two negative tests along with being fully vaccinated! We both know the answer to that. It’s a BS money making scheme, for the hotels, insurance companies, the hospitals, and the government. Which is why I’m I personally going to Pass on Thailand for 2021. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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