Web based b'ness

[A1Str8]

Quite some time ago I wrote a thread???? about me running a business, webdesign blabla, online services. I also showed a website I created for it (which I changed since then to improve it).

 

True to form, the majority of the people talked s.... about it. Judged it, talked down on it. I even had one TV user ???????????? who actually took the trouble and contacted me via the website and started explaining it to me how it was all bad and wasn't going to work at all. 

I guess he wasn't the brightest light on the Christmas tree as a child. 

 

Fast forward quite a bit and the business is still going strong. Have been quite a ride, but generated a lot of bread. 

 

I would like to extend my sincerest gratitude to those that doubted me???? and talked s....

You kept me going.

 

God bless You!

[recom273]

Good to hear.

 

Do you want to link to the original post?

[fdsa]

Well I've found your website and I could tell that you are really lucky that you've discovered one little secret.

I'd like to share this secret with fellow forum members:

- every single product cost as much as people are willing to pay for it.

 

For a success you just need to find a customer with lots of moneys who could easily throw it away and doesn't care at all, or a customer who doesn't have even a little understanding about a honest price of your product/service.

And for the real success you should also have an overconfidence and impudence, to easily say that your competitors are worse than you when they are clearly not, and that your product is the best of its kind when it's clearly not.

Edited December 3, 2021 by fdsa

[GrandPapillon]

everyone can design professional websites these days, a lot "material design" and "bootstrap" templates doing a spectacular job. But people are lazy and don't want to learn.

 

Not sure there is money in doing website design, unless you are very talented and you have very demanding clients. Some can charge a min of 5,000 USD to 50,000 USD in design terms with custom logos and custom icons.

 

For low end sh*t? no money to be made and a complete waste of time. Hire a cheap Indian to do it for you ????

 

Edited December 3, 2021 by GrandPapillon

[GrandPapillon]

5 hours ago, recom273 said:

Good to hear.

 

Do you want to link to the original post?

yeah curious to see the early work, probably at par with one made by a 12yr old at school ????

 

online businesses are tough ????

 

[tgw]

15 minutes ago, GrandPapillon said:

everyone can design professional websites these days, a lot "material design" and "bootstrap" templates doing a spectacular job. But people are lazy and don't want to learn.

 

Not sure there is money in doing website design, unless you are very talented and you have very demanding clients. Some can charge a min of 5,000 USD to 50,000 USD in design terms with custom logos and custom icons.

 

For low end sh*t? no money to be made and a complete waste of time. Hire a cheap Indian to do it for you ????

 

amateurs cannot make websites that score high in google tests (page speed insights / lighthouse) anymore.

 

especially mobile performance is difficult to achieve for any data-driven site with a bit of complexity.

 

responsive design isn't anymore just about making the visual size of website content fit to mobile screens.

today it's about serving specific image sizes and formats (webp), simplified JS/CSS payloads with a reduced number of dom elements to mobiles and tablets. caching has become crucial.

 

and after that purely technical layer, comes the technical SEO layer. unless the CMS supports all the needed tools, that technical SEO is a very difficult task, especially in multilingual websites.

 

it's no amateur job anymore.

Edited December 3, 2021 by tgw

[GrandPapillon]

6 minutes ago, tgw said:

responsive design isn't anymore just about making the visual size of website content fit to mobile screens.

today it's about serving specific image sizes and formats (webp), simplified JS/CSS payloads with a reduced number of dom elements to mobiles and tablets. caching has become crucial.

 

and after that purely technical layer, comes the technical SEO layer. unless the CMS supports all the needed tools, that technical SEO is a very difficult task, especially in multilingual websites.

 

it's no amateur job anymore.

it never was, but most amateurs or people don't need all this, small businesses just need an online presence

 

even with all the right "page optimization", it won't put you on the map with Google SE

 

Goggle SE is all about the quality and relevance of "content", and that means bringing "value" in terms of contents, a very expensive task, even for professional marketing

 

incidentally, it's not usual to see poorly designed websites with low "loading speed" and poor "mobile rendering" still get ranked highly on Google SE, simply because they have the "content"

Edited December 3, 2021 by GrandPapillon

[tgw]

14 minutes ago, GrandPapillon said:

it never was, but most amateurs or people don't need all this, small businesses just need an online presence

 

even with all the right "page optimization", it won't put you on the map with Google SE

 

Goggle SE is all about the quality and relevant of content, and that means bringing "value" in terms of content, a very expensive tasks, even for professional marketing

 

incidentally, it's not usual to see poorly designed websites with low "loading speed" and poor "mobile rendering" still get ranked highly on Google SE, simply because they have the "content"

oh, I started websites in 1994, and I can say until about 2005 it was fairly easy to rank in search engines, including Google when it started.

 

of course, "page optimization" alone isn't enough, but websites that load fast, have their SEO optimized AND have good content tend to rank significantly higher than poorly made sites with good content.

this is especially true of new websites. older sites that didn't keep up with technical standards but have good content benefit from a lot of goodwill at google.

new websites that have good content but aren't optimized will have a hard time competing in google rankings with older, established sites.

Edited December 3, 2021 by tgw

[A1Str8]

2 hours ago, fdsa said:

Well I've found your website and I could tell that you are really lucky that you've discovered one little secret.

I'd like to share this secret with fellow forum members:

- every single product cost as much as people are willing to pay for it.

 

For a success you just need to find a customer with lots of moneys who could easily throw it away and doesn't care at all, or a customer who doesn't have even a little understanding about a honest price of your product/service.

And for the real success you should also have an overconfidence and impudence, to easily say that your competitors are worse than you when they are clearly not, and that your product is the best of its kind when it's clearly not.

There's no luck. 

It's called persistence.

[GrandPapillon]

can you show us the website? or the original version? out of curiosity ????

 

[fdsa]

2 hours ago, GrandPapillon said:

people are lazy and don't want to learn.

and that's why you could find a customer willing to pay 5,000 USD to 50,000 USD for a website and then find a cheap Indian to do the job for you. Huge moneys are made this way.

 

8 minutes ago, GrandPapillon said:

can you show us the website? or the original version? out of curiosity ????

check OP's topics and see how it looked in web.archive.org

 

Edited December 3, 2021 by fdsa

[GrandPapillon]

thanks, I looked it up, and didn't fail to deliver on that front ????

 

quite possible he got a client from not looking at his website, or they didn't bother, and maybe the service is real, and not pure digital ????

 

done on Wix under 5min, anyone can do that ????

 

the whole 1 pager website was written by a 12yr in a hurry ????

 

 

[GrandPapillon]

1 hour ago, A1Str8 said:

There's no luck. 

It's called persistence.

well obviously, not by your creative design skills ????