candide Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 39 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said: The excuse was the Is didn't have services for 50 people while our border towns are expected to deal with 100's of 1000's of illegals migrants. The hypocrisy is overwhelming. The hypocrisy was to send them to a small isolated Island just for political reasons, without caring whether it was convenient of not for the migrants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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placeholder Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 1 hour ago, EVENKEEL said: The excuse was the Is didn't have services for 50 people while our border towns are expected to deal with 100's of 1000's of illegals migrants. The hypocrisy is overwhelming. What excuse? The migrants didn't want to stay there. They plan to go to communities where they have connections already and where they'll feel more at home. And where they're not stuck on a small island. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 1 hour ago, EVENKEEL said: Not really on my top 10. If you had been you would understand that location was picked solely for TROLL purposes. DeSantis is out to out trump trump. Not to actually work towards actual solutions to serious problems but strictly to own the libs. Also the migrants were lied to and made fake promises. SLEAZY! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVENKEEL Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 8 hours ago, Jingthing said: If you had been you would understand that location was picked solely for TROLL purposes. DeSantis is out to out trump trump. Not to actually work towards actual solutions to serious problems but strictly to own the libs. Also the migrants were lied to and made fake promises. SLEAZY! Of course it's political. I find it poetic that these sanctuary states get a taste of what our border cities put up with everyday. MV is a ultra rich liberal stronghold and they get upset over 50 people. All the while biden won't even so much as visit the problem border. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarrySR Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 After enduring a perilous journey over land from their broken country to make a fresh start in the United States, these poor, extremely vulnerable, devout Christian refugees are then rounded up in a vile political stunt. Of course the usual suspects here in the forum are pleased as punch. That's why we know them as deplorable. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 2 hours ago, EVENKEEL said: Of course it's political. I find it poetic that these sanctuary states get a taste of what our border cities put up with everyday. MV is a ultra rich liberal stronghold and they get upset over 50 people. All the while biden won't even so much as visit the problem border. With us your evidence that the people on Martha's vineyard were upset with the migrants on the Island?. The locals had no say in where these migrants ended up. That was between them and the Federal government. It's harder and more costly to get where you want to go if your starting point is an island. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Eric Loh Posted September 20, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 20, 2022 3 hours ago, EVENKEEL said: Of course it's political. I find it poetic that these sanctuary states get a taste of what our border cities put up with everyday. MV is a ultra rich liberal stronghold and they get upset over 50 people. All the while biden won't even so much as visit the problem border. Texas border cities will be better run by Beto O'Rourke. Abbott spent too much time on political stunts than governing. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slip Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 Looks like these spiteful show-boaters might be in for some scrutiny: Good: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Slip said: Looks like these spiteful show-boaters might be in for some scrutiny: Good: In a related topic I posted that lawers claim that brochures were given to migrants that promised them jobs, etc if they agreed to be transported. This might also be subject to criminal investigation. Edited September 20, 2022 by placeholder 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, EVENKEEL said: Of course it's political. I find it poetic that these sanctuary states get a taste of what our border cities put up with everyday. MV is a ultra rich liberal stronghold and they get upset over 50 people. All the while biden won't even so much as visit the problem border. The republican trolls are not interested in solutions. God forbid they should support a comprehensive immigration reform bill. Edited September 20, 2022 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanaguma Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 5 minutes ago, Jingthing said: The republican trolls are not interested in solutions. God forbid they should support a comprehensive immigration reform bill. ...and what would your "comprehensive immigration reform bill" include? You may be shocked to find that lots of right wing folks agree with you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarrySR Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 8 minutes ago, Jingthing said: The republican trolls are not interested in solutions. God forbid they should support a comprehensive immigration reform bill. The ONLY thing Republicans are interested is agitating their undereducated, bigot, racist base. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanaguma Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Eric Loh said: Texas border cities will be better run by Beto O'Rourke. Abbott spent too much time on political stunts than governing. You must be joking. ORourke hasn't run so much as a lemonade stand in his entire sad life. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 30 minutes ago, Hanaguma said: You must be joking. ORourke hasn't run so much as a lemonade stand in his entire sad life. Then it should be par for the course since Abbott hasn't run much for the state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVENKEEL Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 49 minutes ago, Jingthing said: The republican trolls are not interested in solutions. God forbid they should support a comprehensive immigration reform bill. I agree this influx of illegals is not sustainable. The flow of illegals needs to be plugged before any legit discussion can happen. If the democrats were truly interested in stemming the flow across the border they wouldn't have fought so hard against a secure border aka a nice barrier. Right now we have zero honesty about the border situation coming out of the White House. Biden's press sec recently stated the illegals can't just walk across the border. And no one calls her on her lies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVENKEEL Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 2 hours ago, placeholder said: With us your evidence that the people on Martha's vineyard were upset with the migrants on the Island?. The locals had no say in where these migrants ended up. That was between them and the Federal government. It's harder and more costly to get where you want to go if your starting point is an island. You mean the uber rich biden lovers had no say. Now you're having a laff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 1 minute ago, EVENKEEL said: You mean the uber rich biden lovers had no say. Now you're having a laff. Even on the dubious assumption that they were able to, you mean they should have overridden the desires of the migrants? You think these migrants are their peons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarrySR Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 14 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said: I agree this influx of illegals is not sustainable. The flow of illegals needs to be plugged before any legit discussion can happen. If the democrats were truly interested in stemming the flow across the border they wouldn't have fought so hard against a secure border aka a nice barrier. Right now we have zero honesty about the border situation coming out of the White House. Biden's press sec recently stated the illegals can't just walk across the border. And no one calls her on her lies. Unemployment at 50 year low. 11 million jobs listings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 13 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said: I agree this influx of illegals is not sustainable. The flow of illegals needs to be plugged before any legit discussion can happen. If the democrats were truly interested in stemming the flow across the border they wouldn't have fought so hard against a secure border aka a nice barrier. Right now we have zero honesty about the border situation coming out of the White House. Biden's press sec recently stated the illegals can't just walk across the border. And no one calls her on her lies. Well, if Republicans really wanted to stop undocumented aliens, they would make it a felony to employ them. In Texas, about 8.5% of the workforce is reckoned to be undocumented aliens. Certain industries, like home construction , which has been booming have much higher rates. In Florida it's only a misdemeanor to hire illegal aliens. A $500 fine to be imposed for each illegal. You know how many prosecutions there have been under Desantis? If you guessed higher than 0 you've got it wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarrySR Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, placeholder said: Well, if Republicans really wanted to stop undocumented aliens, they would make it a felony to employ them. In Texas, about 8.5% of the workforce is reckoned to be undocumented aliens. Certain industries, like home construction , which has been booming have much higher rates. In Florida it's only a misdemeanor to hire illegal aliens. A $500 fine to be imposed for each illegal. You know how many prosecutions there have been under Desantis? If you guessed higher than 0 you've got it wrong. Every spring, a whole lotta day laborers head off to the USA to do the summer high seasonal jobs Americans won’t do. Like clockwork they head home for the winter. Mexican families have been dong this for generations. They show up in the same towns their grandfather came to to pick fruit or do hard labor in construction. Good people that work hard and are excellent neighbors. Employers in the USA face a $9,000 fine if they fail to verify the identity of every staff by filing an I-9 form for every worker. Of course the undocumented workers can easily procure all sorts of ID and a social security number. According to Social Security, $13 billion per year is paid into the social security fund with zero chance these workers ever receive benefits. Edited September 20, 2022 by LarrySR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 28 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said: I agree this influx of illegals is not sustainable. The flow of illegals needs to be plugged before any legit discussion can happen. If the democrats were truly interested in stemming the flow across the border they wouldn't have fought so hard against a secure border aka a nice barrier. Right now we have zero honesty about the border situation coming out of the White House. Biden's press sec recently stated the illegals can't just walk across the border. And no one calls her on her lies. You really think the immigrants who forced to flee from persecution, violence, armed conflicts, poverty etc and walked for days/weeks will turned back when they are confronted with a 'nice' barrier. Really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 36 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said: I agree this influx of illegals is not sustainable. The flow of illegals needs to be plugged before any legit discussion can happen. If the democrats were truly interested in stemming the flow across the border they wouldn't have fought so hard against a secure border aka a nice barrier. Just what the USA needs, More border wall. Bad enough as it is. The ecological disaster that is Trump’s border wall: a visual guide https://www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2017/4/10/14471304/trump-border-wall-animals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarrySR Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 (edited) Remember when our brilliant commander in chief suggested to border police to dig a big ditch and fill it with snakes and alligators. It’s like he has the brain of a 5 year old. Edited September 20, 2022 by LarrySR 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 10 minutes ago, LarrySR said: Employers in the USA face a $9,000 fine if they fail to verify the identity of every staff by filing an I-9 form for every worker. Of course the undocumented workers can easily procure all sorts of ID and a social security number. According to Social Security, $13 billion per year is paid into the social security fund with zero chance these workers ever receive benefits. In theory, according to Federal law, an employer can even be imprisoned for up to 6 months for hiring undocumented aliens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 41 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said: I agree this influx of illegals is not sustainable. The flow of illegals needs to be plugged before any legit discussion can happen. If the democrats were truly interested in stemming the flow across the border they wouldn't have fought so hard against a secure border aka a nice barrier. Right now we have zero honesty about the border situation coming out of the White House. Biden's press sec recently stated the illegals can't just walk across the border. And no one calls her on her lies. You do realize all of those Venezeulans that were cynically hijacked for a xenophobic troll theater in the Vineyard are in the US legally as asylum seekers, right? I used to live in a red state nowhere near a border. There were tons of immigrants a d yes many undocumented. It's a totally fake issue that they stay only in border states. BTW, the labor of immigrants is desperately needed now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riclag Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Slip said: Looks like these spiteful show-boaters might be in for some scrutiny: Good: Members can use Twitter sources now, when commenting? Edited September 20, 2022 by riclag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, riclag said: Members can use Twitter now? Better than Truth Social no? EDIT from sources The smoking gun in Martha's Vineyard https://popular.info/p/the-smoking-gun-in-marthas-vineyard Texas sheriff investigating flights to Martha’s Vineyard https://apnews.com/fc33092bca2af532841e583b73e24b7f Edited September 20, 2022 by Bkk Brian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, riclag said: Members can use Twitter now? Maybe when it's from an official source? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slip Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 2 hours ago, riclag said: Members can use Twitter sources now, when commenting? As Placeholder said Riclag- official accounts are permitted. I guess if you want to argue that they are not up to snuff, you could always report my post. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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