1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said:

So is a car accident.... to those who are involved in dangerous car accidents.... 

But nobody is forced to be in a car accident.

4 hours ago, Bert got kinky said:

Daily News reported on a TikTok post

apart from a TikTok post, what evidence is there that this was caused through the vaccine?

Are there any other reports of this case in which an actual doctor or expert in the field have confirmed the cause?

 

The reason why I asking?

People read something on the interweb and just presume that it must be true.

 

On BBC news website this morning.

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-63719246

 

 

Exactly  this was my thought also.

 

A report on TikTok is not a scientifically credible source. It could be completely fictional.

 

If true the  condition could be unrelated to the vaccine but assumed by the untrained or predjudiced to be due to the vaccine. 

 

There is little to support the truth or accuracy of this account.

When something is both dangerous AND provides ZERO benefits, it should at the very least not be mandatory - if not banned altogether.

5 hours ago, huangnon said:

There are a lot of undertakers now reporting serious blood clot formations in the veins and arteries of people who previously had no health issues before the m-RNA shots. 

Also, a lot of young people suddenly dying. 

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-174072/Sudden-death-mystery-healthy-people.html

And where in this article is it written that this sudden deaths are caused by the Covid vaccines?

2 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

I can't believe there still are people saying that.

Of course you can't because you believe the alternative media and think they spout real information and that it's all been a conspiracy to gain control and it is part of the great reset.....you guys really take the bait, just like the MAGA crowd.

1 hour ago, JoseThailand said:

One should only get a vaccine if they are in a risk group - old, with underlying conditions etc. Otherwise it's not worth the risk of possible side effects.

So you never received any vaccinations as a kid then, or even as a adult for other diseases, beggars belief....

1 hour ago, BangkokHank said:

When something is both dangerous AND provides ZERO benefits, it should at the very least not be mandatory - if not banned altogether.

Taking a dump when you first wake up and squeezing to get it out kills people all the time, should going to the bathroom to take a turd be banned as well.  Every couple of mornings at the Fire station when I was a young paramedic the tones would go out and we would respond to a heart attack with the victim in the bathroom....do some research and prove me wrong.....it is called defecation syncope. 

Edited November 24, 20223 yr by ThailandRyan

2 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Taking a dump when you first wake up and squeezing to get it out kills people all the time, should going to the bathroom to take a turd be banned as well. 

Yes, of course. That was the point I was trying to make. I'm glad that at least one person was able to see that.

May Jah inspire her beautiful paintings...

4 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

So you never received any vaccinations as a kid then, or even as a adult for other diseases, beggars belief....

Some vaccines are useful, some are not. Covid vaccines are useless for the majority of the population and, what's worse, dangerous.

13 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

All vaccines, no matter what they are for, have the ability to create a problem for only a small fraction of the populous.  So are you an anti-vaxxer for just the Covid vaccines be they an adenovirus vaccine or just the MRNA vaccines.  Vaccines have been around for many years and have assisted in people who have had the flu, pneumonia, hepatitis B, Measles, Tetanus and so on vaccines.  All of these also had individuals show side effects. How many of these other vaccines have you had, and if so have you had any issue which can be found on the VARES system......so please tell us, I am interested.  Better yet, do you have any allergies to regularly given medicines that others do not.  I for one can not take anything with codeine in it as it gives me a rash.....

 

I do feel for the young lady and wish her well.

"All vaccines, no matter what they are for, have the ability to create a problem for only a small fraction of the populous."

 

That's the core issue, are we really dealing with a "small fraction" of the population? An increasing number of people, including medical personnel, are realising that something is just plain wrong. For example Dr. Aseem Malhotra, a top UK cardiologist who initially advocated for the Covid jab on TV, is now calling for its immediate suspension to investigate serious side effects:

https://aosis.co.za/news-dr-aseem-malhotra-who-promoted-covid-19-vaccine-on-tv-calls-for-its-immediate-suspension-to-investigate-serious-side-effects/

 

Another compelling article:

https://www.clarkcountytoday.com/news/top-cardiologist-ties-unexpected-deaths-collapses-to-covid-shot/

 

11 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Very sad. And a very good example of why railroading people into having the vaccination was an immoral policy.

 

Novak Djokovic has gone up in my estimation. 

Djokovic is an absolute legend.

6 hours ago, Letseng said:

How many ppl in TH were vaccinated? How many suffered vax related health problems? It's like some suffer an anaphylactic shock after a peanut & majority  doesn't. Declare peanuts a dangerous food? Really?

We don't know because they aren't counting them. All I can say is that I don't know anyone who doesn't know at least one person suffering from some sort of ailment after "doing their bit for the universal good". They must feel pretty bitter now that nobody is taking them seriously, I know I would. Thank God I never bought any of this BS from day 1.

6 hours ago, JoseThailand said:

The people who got handicapped or died because of the vaccine most likely wouldn't die of covid even if they caught it.

This simple fact should have led to an immediate halt a long time ago. Hippocratic oath: first, do no harm.

4 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

Of course you can't because you believe the alternative media and think they spout real information and that it's all been a conspiracy to gain control and it is part of the great reset.....you guys really take the bait, just like the MAGA crowd.

We're not that dumb, believe it or not.

 

If I were to show you an alt media channel referencing thousands of victims in detail with names and testimonies, what would you say to persist in your denial? That they are paid actors? Deep fakes? Lying? Delusional?

16 hours ago, PremiumLane said:

Ask the experts, and you do know they were able to do these vaccines quicker because they pooled resources and prioritized more? It is well documented how it was developed and the trials done. 

And how - pray tell - do you 'speed up' a clinical trial that takes years ? Answer - you do not perform said trials.

Pool your resources ? - like stock up on time and use it all at once ?

Unless Big Pharma has a time machine.

19 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

All vaccines, no matter what they are for, have the ability to create a problem for only a small fraction of the populous.  So are you an anti-vaxxer for just the Covid vaccines be they an adenovirus vaccine or just the MRNA vaccines.  Vaccines have been around for many years and have assisted in people who have had the flu, pneumonia, hepatitis B, Measles, Tetanus and so on vaccines.  All of these also had individuals show side effects. How many of these other vaccines have you had, and if so have you had any issue which can be found on the VARES system......so please tell us, I am interested.  Better yet, do you have any allergies to regularly given medicines that others do not.  I for one can not take anything with codeine in it as it gives me a rash.....

 

I do feel for the young lady and wish her well.

Up until about 2 years ago vaccines were given in order to do infection\transmission. When the COVID vaccines came out they were supposed to do the same (hence the calling to get vaccinated not only to protect yourself but those around you as well and the idea of hers immunity through vaccination).

Only when it was evident that there are so many breakthrough infections (vaxed people who still get infected, which was always very rare with all those other vaccines around) the song was changed and now they all claim vaccines are not given to stop one from getting infected, but to reduce the severity of the sickness.

There was another thread on AN the other day and someone posted a clip showing all those who pushed for the vaccines saying that it will stop infections - they should all day their hats...

30 minutes ago, LukKrueng said:

Up until about 2 years ago vaccines were given in order to do infection\transmission. When the COVID vaccines came out they were supposed to do the same (hence the calling to get vaccinated not only to protect yourself but those around you as well and the idea of hers immunity through vaccination).

Only when it was evident that there are so many breakthrough infections (vaxed people who still get infected, which was always very rare with all those other vaccines around) the song was changed and now they all claim vaccines are not given to stop one from getting infected, but to reduce the severity of the sickness.

There was another thread on AN the other day and someone posted a clip showing all those who pushed for the vaccines saying that it will stop infections - they should all day their hats...

So breakthrough infections for the flu and pneumonia did not happen after a vaccination?  Dude your barking up the wrong medical tree.  Unless you have a background in virology your views are from others who have an agenda...TTFN, onto ignore you go as I am tired of the misinformation you post.  NOT all vaccines have a Sterilizing immunity. Do some research or ask your doctor

Edited November 25, 20223 yr by ThailandRyan

11 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

So you never received any vaccinations as a kid then, or even as a adult for other diseases, beggars belief....

None that were issued under an "emergency use authorization" (still are, btw), with no long term safety reports. From pharma companies that had never brought a vaccine to market before, or for having to be coerced into having products that aren't really "vaccines" double-jabbed to travel or continue in employment?

Otherwise, yes.

23 hours ago, webfact said:

Netizens commented in numbers with many wondering what benefits Ja would get from the government for a vaccine that went wrong. 

A basket of Chicken delight and upwards of a lifetime for any compensation.

21 hours ago, PremiumLane said:

These vaccines are not dangerous 

Unless you're the unlucky ones.

13 minutes ago, hotchilli said:

Unless you're the unlucky ones.

come on then, give us the number for these unlucky ones

Baiting post removed.  

 

2 hours ago, seedy said:

And how - pray tell - do you 'speed up' a clinical trial that takes years ? Answer - you do not perform said trials.

Pool your resources ? - like stock up on time and use it all at once ?

Unless Big Pharma has a time machine.

Other than the fact that you can go and look up these clinical trials, how they were conducted and all the results - and again, that has already ben answered, usually they take time cos of the amount of people doing them and resources given... I don't know why that very basic concept is so difficult for you to grasp.

14 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

I can't believe there still are people saying that.

let's see your evidence to the contrary then 

53 minutes ago, huangnon said:

None that were issued under an "emergency use authorization" (still are, btw), with no long term safety reports. From pharma companies that had never brought a vaccine to market before, or for having to be coerced into having products that aren't really "vaccines" double-jabbed to travel or continue in employment?

Otherwise, yes.

Try again the Emergency Use Authorization has been removed for a few vaccines

 

https://www.newsweek.com/covid-vaccine-fda-approved-how-approval-differs-emergency-use-authorization-1622083

 

https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2022/11/fact-check-new-covid-death-data-does-not-prove-vaccines-are-experimental-toxin-causing-majority-of-covid-deaths.html

 

•  Nov 24, 2022

Recycled Rumor

Does a newly released dataset show that COVID-19 is a deadly "experimental toxin"? And does Dr. Anthony Fauci's resignation have anything to do with it?

 

No, neither are true: the claims recycle old falsehoods based on a distortion of publicly available information, and new reports do not support it. Fauci, 81, the country's top virologist, started talking about stepping down in spring 2022 as the overall epidemiologic picture of the pandemic started to improve.

 

The claim appeared in an Instagram post on November 23, 2022. The image said:

Edited November 25, 20223 yr by ThailandRyan

17 hours ago, huangnon said:

Not sure who you're referring to, here?

 

But, seen a few different reports from undertakers in different countries reporting severe blood-clotting issues:

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/unusually-large-blood-clots-found-in-bodies-of-the-deceased-since-covid-jab-rollout/

 

But, when you have supposed first world countries reporting "unknown causes" as a leading cause of death among mainly young people, there should be some cause for major concern.

https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2022/09/unknown-cause-of-1-million-excess-deaths-per-year.html

Let's see the evidence that these were caused by vaccines then, can't be that difficult if you have already come to that conclusion 

Edited November 25, 20223 yr by PremiumLane

Since we are so technologically advanced why hasn't anyone developed some tests that can be given to a person to see if they will have an allergic reaction to a vaccine before they get any vaccine.  In our day and time and with the data we have there could be common factors with people that have had an allergic reaction to any specific vaccine. And if so, they could screen a person to see if they have any of the factors ahead of time and warn them not to get a certain vaccine.

Anyone have any idea about this? 

4 minutes ago, zeekgarcia said:

Since we are so technologically advanced why hasn't anyone developed some tests that can be given to a person to see if they will have an allergic reaction to a vaccine before they get any vaccine.  In our day and time and with the data we have there could be common factors with people that have had an allergic reaction to any specific vaccine. And if so, they could screen a person to see if they have any of the factors ahead of time and warn them not to get a certain vaccine.

Anyone have any idea about this? 

Since we are so technologically advanced why hasn't anyone developed some tests that can be given to a person to see if they will have an allergic reaction to a vaccine before they get any vaccine.

Because the problem only exists in the small minds of anti-vax, conspiracy theory spreading/believing, nut-jobs.

 

People can do what they want. My next door neighbor , my exact same age was a anti vaccine guy.  Healthy as a horse.  I got the vaccine and the booster. He contracted covid a few months before I did and died within 5 days. I was sick but didn't die and got over it pretty easy actually.

As soon as I get back the the US I am getting the next booster for sure.

Personally I could care less if people get vaccinated or not!

Edited November 25, 20223 yr by Gknrd