renegade2000 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 do you know if a tourist on a visa waiver neeed to go to immigration if he/she stay in a privat house with a thai family. how does it work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ubonjoe Posted November 30, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 30, 2022 A TM30 report is not required for travel within the country. You only need to do one is if you are going to be doing something at immigration to change your address. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJack54 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 OP, are you planning to obtain an extension to your visa waiver entry? If not then do nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FriendlyFarang Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 The housemaster would have to report the foreigner. If the foreigner doesn’t plan to do anything at immigration just ignore it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotandsticky Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 1 hour ago, ubonjoe said: A TM30 report is not required for travel within the country. You only need to do one is if you are going to be doing something at immigration to change your address. My money is on visa exempt........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJack54 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, hotandsticky said: My money is on visa exempt........ The OP mentioned entered on visa waiver. Meaning Visa exempt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquorice Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 If the OP is returning to his existing reported address, there is no requirement to file a new TM30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 17 hours ago, renegade2000 said: do you know if a tourist on a visa waiver neeed to go to immigration if he/she stay in a privat house with a thai family. Basic answer is no... do nothing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluemoonpattaya Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 Say nothing, write nothing and do nothing.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangon04 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 So the TM30 rules as published are merely hypothetical... as are many Thai laws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJack54 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 4 minutes ago, bangon04 said: So the TM30 rules as published are merely hypothetical... as are many Thai laws. The OP may need a TM30 if attending immigration for various reasons such as extension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangon04 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 1 minute ago, DrJack54 said: The OP may need a TM30 if attending immigration for various reasons such as extension. but purely "hypothetically" you would need to complete it every time you sleep on a friend's couch......? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJack54 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 19 hours ago, Liquorice said: If the OP is returning to his existing reported address, there is no requirement to file a new TM30. The OP mentioned "tourist" He may not have an existing address. As stated previously he would only required a TM30 if dealing with immigration 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJack54 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, bangon04 said: but purely "hypothetically" you would need to complete it every time you sleep on a friend's couch......? No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquorice Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 3 hours ago, DrJack54 said: The OP mentioned "tourist" He may not have an existing address. He may have stayed at a hotel on arrival, or intend applying for a 30-day extension. 3 hours ago, DrJack54 said: As stated previously he would only required a TM30 if dealing with immigration Is that what the law states? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJack54 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Liquorice said: He may have stayed at a hotel on arrival, or intend applying for a 30-day extension. What part of my posts did you miss... Here is one..... "The OP may need a TM30 if attending immigration for various reasons such as extension" You give laugh emoji then post exactly what I posted. Amusing Edited December 1, 2022 by DrJack54 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquorice Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 Just now, DrJack54 said: What part of my posts did you miss... Here is one..... "The OP may need a TM30 if attending immigration for various reasons such as extension" I didn't miss any part of your post, you jump to conclusion and make assumptions too fast. A TM30 should be filed regardless of whether it's his intention or not to visit Immigration - that's the Immigration law, need I quote it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJack54 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Liquorice said: I didn't miss any part of your post, you jump to conclusion and make assumptions too fast. A TM30 should be filed regardless of whether it's his intention or not to visit Immigration - that's the Immigration law, need I quote it? Incorrect. Virtually a zillion tourists visit Thailand and none file a TM30. The copy of TM30 being filed by the hotel would be sufficient if attending immigration for example an extension. Read first post from ubonjoe. Edited December 1, 2022 by DrJack54 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquorice Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 (edited) 23 minutes ago, DrJack54 said: Virtually a zillion tourists visit Thailand and none file a TM30. Then they are in violation of section 38 of the Immigration Act and subject to a fine if caught. Ignorance of the law is not an excuse. 23 minutes ago, DrJack54 said: Read first post from ubonjoe. You've misunderstood Joe's statements. On 11/30/2022 at 5:06 PM, ubonjoe said: A TM30 report is not required for travel within the country. Correct, assuming a TM30 was initially filed, there is now no requirement to refile if staying temporary at other locations. On 11/30/2022 at 5:06 PM, ubonjoe said: You only need to do one is if you are going to be doing something at immigration to change your address. What he clearly meant was if staying in a different Province to where a TM30 was previously filed, you must file a new TM30 to formally change your address before applying for an extension, for example. You can't change an address, if you never had one in the first instance. Edited December 1, 2022 by Liquorice 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJack54 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, Liquorice said: Then they are in violation of section 38 of the Immigration Act and subject to a fine if caught. Ignorance of the law is not an excuse Caught doing what? Travelling throughout Thailand as a tourist. Perhaps on a tourist visa. Please! Time for ignore. Do some research. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquorice Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 4 minutes ago, DrJack54 said: Time for ignore. Whilst you advise ignoring the law, with your personal opinions. 5 minutes ago, DrJack54 said: Do some research. Here's some research for you, Jack.Immigration Act B.E. 2522 (1979) ENG.pdf TM30 Reporting Regulation.pdf 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquorice Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 You miss the whole purpose of an alien's address being registered with Immigration. You're required to notify your place of residence when visiting most other Countries. The tsunami which impacted communities around the Indian Ocean rim on the morning of 26th December 2004 wreaked particular havoc with the tourism industry in Phuket and southern Thailand. This became global news, with families of relatives staying in Thailand advised to contact their Embassies. The Embassies are then able to track foreigners, using the details held by Thai Immigration to contact them, ensuring they are safe and reporting back to families overseas. If they haven't registered their address or contact details with Immigration, in the event of an emergency they may not be immediately traceable, which would be distressing for worried families back home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FriendlyFarang Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 10 hours ago, Liquorice said: Correct, assuming a TM30 was initially filed, there is now no requirement to refile if staying temporary at other locations. Actually there is, try reading the law which you posted yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Catton Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 The tourist has no requirement to fill out the TM30. The Thai friend however would be required, (not that they will). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquorice Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 On 12/2/2022 at 7:11 AM, Paul Catton said: The tourist has no requirement to fill out the TM30. The Thai friend however would be required, (not that they will). False, it's a myth it's a Thais responsibility. It's just as much the foreign tourists' responsibility to file a TM30 if staying at a private residence. Hence, Immigration will often fine the foreigner. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquorice Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 On 12/2/2022 at 5:17 AM, FriendlyFarang said: Actually there is, try reading the law which you posted yourself. I stated 'temporary' staying at a different address, meaning if returning to your registered address there is now no requirement to file a further TM30. The requirements changed in Dec 2020. TM30 Reporting Regulation.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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