riclag 8429 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 (edited) I recently received mail from the IRS Submission Processing Center in Kansas City,Mo , requesting signatures on our 2021 1040 SR Tax filing. Apparently the Irs is claiming my paper return doesn’t show a “valid original signatures”. Just so you know during the filing season my accountant tried to use efile which was always successful in prior years but not this particular season! So at the time he suggested filing a paper copy using Docu sign signatures. The Irs supposedly is trying to make us use their PIN number process each year but I never received any numbers in the mail. I contacted my accountant in the states and he suggested following the directions on the form( 3531) and sign the 1040 again and send it to the return usa address on the envelope(above )I received ,using a tracking mail service. That being said ,What is the best and secure way ? Money isnt a issue ! Peace of mind knowing it gets there is pinnacle.Any suggestions of Thai Post tracking to use? I need to send this asap Thanks Edited January 12 by riclag Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keep Right 778 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 I had some tax documents (payments) last month to send to the IRS and I used Fed Ex with tracking. My documents arrived safely and I was able to track these until they arrived at the IRS office. I am not recommending Fed Ex but merely explaining my experience. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keep Right 778 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 6 minutes ago, Keep Right said: I had some tax documents (payments) last month to send to the IRS and I used Fed Ex with tracking. My documents arrived safely and I was able to track these until they arrived at the IRS office. I am not recommending Fed Ex but merely explaining my experience. I forgot to mention that this transaction was from Bangkok to Cincinnati, OH. Cheers 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
riclag 8429 Posted January 12 Author Share Posted January 12 8 minutes ago, Keep Right said: I had some tax documents (payments) last month to send to the IRS and I used Fed Ex with tracking. My documents arrived safely and I was able to track these until they arrived at the IRS office. I am not recommending Fed Ex but merely explaining my experience. I’m up here in Sakon Nakhon , I checked google for fedex branches and unfortunately there aren’t any. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
setbkk 197 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Whst a waste of IRS resources trying to get a signature on what is probably an insignificant return. Meanwhile the rich do not get bothered. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RhodeIslandRed 14 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Send by Fed Ex at a Fed Ex store. You will have a tracking number to follow and a signature upon arrival at the IRS, which you should print for your records. I have done this several times and about 7 days for delivery in the states from Thailand. Don't mess with Thai post as it will lay at the airport for 2 weeks before outgoing mail is flown overseas. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
riclag 8429 Posted January 12 Author Share Posted January 12 1 hour ago, RhodeIslandRed said: Send by Fed Ex at a Fed Ex store. You will have a tracking number to follow and a signature upon arrival at the IRS, which you should print for your records. I have done this several times and about 7 days for delivery in the states from Thailand. Don't mess with Thai post as it will lay at the airport for 2 weeks before outgoing mail is flown overseas. There aren’t any fedex up here in Sakon Nakhon Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post flexomike 1294 Posted January 12 Popular Post Share Posted January 12 4 hours ago, riclag said: There aren’t any fedex up here in Sakon Nakhon Use Thai Post EMS service usually arrives in less than a week and can be tracked all of the way, for an envelope will cost about 1400 baht, have used this several times in the past with no problems 1 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swm59nj 1758 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 I have used DHL or FedEx. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Skeptic7 9225 Posted January 13 Popular Post Share Posted January 13 I use FedEx, but it's easy here in Chon Buri plus I get a 75% discount. FedEx is very pricey without the discount....about $100 USD for an envelope. If not for the discount, I would use Thai Post EMS as suggested above by @flexomike 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulbrow 409 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 14 hours ago, Keep Right said: I had some tax documents (payments) last month to send to the IRS and I used Fed Ex with tracking. My documents arrived safely and I was able to track these until they arrived at the IRS office. I am not recommending Fed Ex but merely explaining my experience. I agree, I use FedEx with confidence. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyExpat57 6417 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 Same thing happened to me. I used regular Thai mail, whatever level they had that let me track it. The document arrived safe and in a reasonable amount of time. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xin Loi 19 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 14 hours ago, riclag said: I’m up here in Sakon Nakhon , I checked google for fedex branches and unfortunately there aren’t any. Fed ex is a poor choice for shipping. They waste so much money and resources to get your anything anywhere. Many Gov't agencies now refuse their services and will not accept them at all. Best to use EMS (Thai) and be sure to get a tracking number. 4 days from Udon to Anchorage AK, every time I have used them. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
riclag 8429 Posted January 13 Author Share Posted January 13 Thanks for all the replies. Im off to the Thai post after I finish my morning cup! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailand49 5068 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 17 hours ago, riclag said: I’m up here in Sakon Nakhon , I checked google for fedex branches and unfortunately there aren’t any. Google see if there are any mail box etc. Outlets in a nearby mall they provide options for FedEx, UPS, DHL, 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
riclag 8429 Posted January 13 Author Share Posted January 13 In Sakon Nakon Thai post office I used EMS World Thailand , 1650.00 bht . Suppose to be 10 days to the states. Contents consisted of 10 pages of documents and the bubble protection envelope they provided. I asked the Mrs if they had other EMS services , she said no! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
riclag 8429 Posted January 21 Author Share Posted January 21 On 1/13/2023 at 7:37 PM, riclag said: In Sakon Nakon Thai post office I used EMS World Thailand , 1650.00 bht . Suppose to be 10 days to the states. Contents consisted of 10 pages of documents and the bubble protection envelope they provided. I asked the Mrs if they had other EMS services , she said no! Arrived at the destination post office in Kansas City, Mo ,Jan 20, approximately 7 days after leaving Sakon Nakhon . Put into the IRS PO box there . according to USPS tracking , it was signed by IRS rep. Signed for By: I RS // KANSAS CITY, MO 64999 // 1:02 pm 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimGant 2159 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 On 1/12/2023 at 7:41 PM, riclag said: Just so you know during the filing season my accountant tried to use efile which was always successful in prior years but not this particular season! Do you know why efile failed? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
riclag 8429 Posted January 22 Author Share Posted January 22 3 hours ago, JimGant said: Do you know why efile failed? Yes! We didn’t have a Identification Protection Pin #. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmine6 174 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 46 minutes ago, riclag said: Yes! We didn’t have a Identification Protection Pin #. There is a way to get a PIN online if someone runs into this in the future. Requires having an IRS account, which may or may not be easy to obtain outside of the US. Get An Identity Protection PIN | Internal Revenue Service (irs.gov) 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lopburi3 13790 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Good that cleared up - do you really need to use an accountant to submit tax? Not hard for most normal returns to do online, and if use OLT not even a fee involved if no state return required. I dread federal forms as much as anyone but for most only takes an hour or two online (maybe a bit more first time), plus another 30 minutes for FBAR if required as long as you get interest (convert to USD)/bank address/1099/ssn/itin/birth dates/bank account for refund. Once done using an online provider most information is entered for next year making it even less work. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamenRaven 228 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 UPS Express. Flat fee for one envelope is around 1.800 baht. The IRS recommends using UPS, FedEx, and DHL. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
riclag 8429 Posted February 23 Author Share Posted February 23 2 hours ago, RamenRaven said: UPS Express. Flat fee for one envelope is around 1.800 baht. The IRS recommends using UPS, FedEx, and DHL. I dont have fedex or ups up here in Sakon Nakhon . I’ve seen delivery motorcycles with DHL markings but my Mrs doesn’t know where there location is. I ended up using the Thai Ems Post , special service “World”,with tracking ,costing 1650 bht. The contents consisted of 10 docs and the bubble envelope. Thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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