House GOP ponders action against DOJ in defense of Trump

[heybruce]

40 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

Lawyers Unable to Find Document Trump Discussed in Recorded Conversation

Prosecutors issued a subpoena for a description of military options for Iran mentioned by the former president during an interview. But Mr. Trump’s legal team said they could find no such document.

 

But Mr. Trump’s legal team has informed the Justice Department that it was unable to find any such records in his possession, the people said. It is unclear whether prosecutors have been able to track down the document themselves, leaving open the possibility that the material remains at large or that the famously blustery Mr. Trump incorrectly described it on the recording.   (my underline)

 

The subpoena, which was issued in March, sought any and all records pertaining to Gen. Mark A. Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and to Iran, including maps or invasion plans, according to the people familiar with the matter.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/02/us/politics/classified-documents-trump-recording.html

 

From CNN:

 

Meadows’ autobiography includes an account of what appears to be the same meeting, during which Trump “recalls a four-page report typed up by (Trump’s former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff) Mark Milley himself. It contained the general’s own plan to attack Iran, deploying massive numbers of troops, something he urged President Trump to do more than once during his presidency.”

 

The document Trump references was not produced by Milley, CNN was told.

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/05/31/politics/trump-tape-classified-document-iran-milley/index.html

Maybe it doesn't exist, or maybe Trump hid it and other documents somewhere his lawyers don't know about.

[jerrymahoney]

17 minutes ago, heybruce said:

Maybe it doesn't exist, or maybe Trump hid it and other documents somewhere his lawyers don't know about.

As linked to CNN above, Milley, the Senior Military Official" says he never wrote such a letter. From the indictment (click to enlarge)

Edited June 19, 2023 by jerrymahoney

[Berkshire]

19 hours ago, riclag said:

According to a recent poll there is 

a chance that the DOJ and Jack has some credibility issues! The court of public opinion has just spoke in a Harvard Harris poll!

https://dnyuz.com/2023/06/17/harvard-poll-most-voters-say-trump-indictment-is-election-interference-believe-hell-be-acquitted/

Unfortunately for you (and Trump), the court of public opinion has zero bearing in a court of law. 

[jerrymahoney]

53 minutes ago, Berkshire said:

Unfortunately for you (and Trump), the court of public opinion has zero bearing in a court of law. 

Only as it relates to the potential jury pool.

[heybruce]

1 hour ago, jerrymahoney said:

As linked to CNN above, Milley, the Senior Military Official" says he never wrote such a letter. From the indictment (click to enlarge)

The assumption being, and probably correct, that "the Senior Military Official" is Milley.  However Trump may have credited Milley with any DoD documents that made it too the White House.  Has Milley definitively stated that no document of this type could have been written by someone else?

[jerrymahoney]

41 minutes ago, heybruce said:

The assumption being, and probably correct, that "the Senior Military Official" is Milley.  However Trump may have credited Milley with any DoD documents that made it too the White House.  Has Milley definitively stated that no document of this type could have been written by someone else?

Trump at 34. of the indictment says of the "Senior Military Official":

 

"This was him. This was the Defense Department and him."

 

As far as Milley saying someone else may have written the note of the DoD's plan to invade Iran in the final days of the Trump Administration, not that the NY Times, Washington Post, CNN, NBC News, CBS News, Fox News, Politico, The Hill, etc. have been made aware as far as I can note.

Edited June 19, 2023 by jerrymahoney

[Pink Mist]

A reported Flame post which is inflammatory has been reported and removed as well as a reply to it and another post.  Posting these types of statements again and you will possibly face a posting suspension.  

[xylophone]

On 6/17/2023 at 11:25 PM, ozimoron said:

On 6/17/2023 at 11:04 PM, riclag said:

Jack and the dishonest(illegal  leaks)Doj/fbi would do wonders for the agencies trust with a large swath  of Americans if he postponed his political persecution of the leading presidential candidate  , by waiting till after the 2024 election .imop

Whats the rush! They waited all this time to start with political  persecution (according  to the Gop)with the election process. Imop Let the election go without controversy Imop

Biden has been nowhere near this. Cut the conspiracy theories unless you can link to evidence other than mere accusations..

I'm afraid they can't help themselves @ozimoron, I think it's something genetic that they can't overcome and one only has to look at MTG to see that.

[ozimoron]

How the right-wing lie and spin machine plans to annihilate anyone who dares to tell the truth

 

Little did she know that the very people whose behavior she was studying would use the power of government to try to destroy her work, funding, and even her personal life and reputation.

 

University of Washington disinformation researcher Kate Starbird learned the hard way: according to The Washington Post she’s been sued — along with multiple other disinformation-studying academics — by groups, sites, and people who are, in many cases, affiliated with some of the more prolific purveyors of disinformation on the web.

 

Meanwhile, House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jim Jordan is using the awesome power of the state to threaten disinformation researchers with jail if they don’t drop what they’re doing and submit to onerous subpoenas for correspondence and testimony.

 

https://www.rawstory.com/kate-starbird/

[candide]

Gag!

Adam Schiff Gets John Durham to Admit Russia Helped Trump

https://news.yahoo.com/adam-schiff-gets-john-durham-204247109.html

 

"When Republicans brought Special Counsel John Durham to the House Judiciary Committee on Wednesday, they thought it’d be an opportunity to score points on Democrats—particularly Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA), who spent years hyping up Donald Trump’s connections to Russia.

What they got instead was a viral moment when Schiff got Durham—the man tasked with concluding whether the FBI’s investigation of Russia’s connections to the 2016 Trump campaign was appropriate—took Durham to task."

 

[ozimoron]

10 minutes ago, candide said:

Gag!

Adam Schiff Gets John Durham to Admit Russia Helped Trump

https://news.yahoo.com/adam-schiff-gets-john-durham-204247109.html

 

"When Republicans brought Special Counsel John Durham to the House Judiciary Committee on Wednesday, they thought it’d be an opportunity to score points on Democrats—particularly Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA), who spent years hyping up Donald Trump’s connections to Russia.

What they got instead was a viral moment when Schiff got Durham—the man tasked with concluding whether the FBI’s investigation of Russia’s connections to the 2016 Trump campaign was appropriate—took Durham to task."

 

 

[LosLobo]

2 hours ago, ozimoron said:

 

It is obvious why the GOP have censured Adam Schiff in the House over the Russia probe.

 

He is very good at his job.

 

What I find is rather curious in the above video is that Durham states:

 

'I don't really read the newspapers or listen to the news, I don't know that. '      

 

Then in the video below he states:

 

'That's what I have read in the news' and then 'I know that I have read in the media'

 

So he must either only watch the news on muted TV and read the teletext or read online news for these two statement to be true.

 

I suggest he is just being disingenuous here and trying to be obfuscate the facts.

 

 

 

 

 

[eisfeld]

1 hour ago, LosLobo said:

It is obvious why the GOP have censured Adam Schiff in the House over the Russia probe.

 

He is very good at his job.

 

What I find is rather curious in the above video is that Durham states:

 

'I don't really read the newspapers or listen to the news, I don't know that. '      

 

Then in the video below he states:

 

'That's what I have read in the news' and then 'I know that I have read in the media'

 

So he must either only watch the news on muted TV and read the teletext or read online news for these two statement to be true.

 

I suggest he is just being disingenuous here and trying to be obfuscate the facts.

 

 

 

 

 

I found it surprising that someone that worked so long on the law enforcement side is making the exact same mistakes that rookie criminals make when talking to law enforcement. He is presenting contradicting stories.

[LosLobo]

2 minutes ago, eisfeld said:

I found it surprising that someone that worked so long on the law enforcement side is making the exact same mistakes that rookie criminals make when talking to law enforcement. He is presenting contradicting stories.

Compared to Mueller he achieved zero.

[Tug]

The republicans are getting so desperate they resort to attacking the messenger instead of examining what transpired accepting it rectifying it and moving on soon they will be destroying each other a sad state of affairs for a once great political party