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Russia conscription laws change, leaving some fearful of Ukraine war call-up

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"Now I live in a state of constant fear. I can't plan anything," says Peter, 27.

He is a salesman living in St Petersburg - but he is now at risk of being called up to fight as part of the Ukraine war.

At the end of July, Russia raised the maximum conscription age by three years, widening the pool of men that can be called up to serve. Peter is one of millions affected by this change.

Before, all healthy men in Russia aged between 18 and 27 had to serve one year of compulsory military service. Conscription was carried out twice a year.

Now, all men up to 30 years of age can be called up.

"I was going to get a mortgage this year and buy a flat for our family," Peter tells the BBC. "My wife and I were discussing plans for the future. Now everything is on hold.

 

"From next January I can be called up to serve and sent to Ukraine. I don't want to join the army, I don't want to take part in this war and die for someone else's goals."

 

The Russian parliament has also passed a bill that significantly increases fines for those who fail to show up at an enlistment office after they get a draft notice.

They can be fined up to 30,000 roubles (about £250/$315) when the law comes into force on 1 October. That is 10 times the current maximum fine.

Last autumn, when the government announced a mobilisation of 300,000 reservists, tens of thousands of men left Russia. Now, officials have imposed a new law that prohibits conscripts from leaving the country once they receive their draft notice.

 

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A disgusting war that leaves innocent victims on both sides of the battlefield.

 

Let's hope Trump gets back in charge soon. The conflict will then have strong chances to be peacefully solved in a jiffy, as war is never good for global business.

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Looks like Phuket and Pattaya will be getting more Russian tourists.

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The Russian people need to Fragg that guy he’s killing off a generation of people to assuage his ego in his war of theft 

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1 hour ago, observer90210 said:

A disgusting war that leaves innocent victims on both sides of the battlefield.

 

Let's hope Trump gets back in charge soon. The conflict will then have strong chances to be peacefully solved in a jiffy, as war is never good for global business.

I suggest that Trump is prolonging the war as Putin is factoring in asset Trump and will hang out until 2025, when Trump has a chance of  entering the Whitehouse.

 

Putin knows his war currently is futile and will not succeed without Trump's help and possibly would be seeking an earlier resolution.

 

Putin will likely help Trump with his propaganda and misinformation campaign as he has done in previous elections.

 

When Trump was elected in 2016, the clinking of champagne glasses at the Kremlin rang around the world as they joined Trump in celebrating their victory.

 

Putin Counting on Trump 2024 Win and US Funding Cuts to Ukraine: CNN (businessinsider.com)

Phuket and Pattaya could be looking at more Russian guests coming 

Buying up the properties and setting up businesses good for Thailand ???????? ????

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6 hours ago, Social Media said:

I don't want to take part in this war and die for someone else's goals.

 

Understandable. Maybe do something about it...?

6 hours ago, Social Media said:

"I was going to get a mortgage this year and buy a flat for our family," Peter tells the BBC. "My wife and I were discussing plans for the future. Now everything is on hold.

By a plane ticket and a condo in BKK

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6 hours ago, observer90210 said:

A disgusting war that leaves innocent victims on both sides of the battlefield.

 

Let's hope Trump gets back in charge soon. The conflict will then have strong chances to be peacefully solved in a jiffy, as war is never good for global business.

and he would have made peace with Hitler has Trump been around then.. I guess that would be the sort of World that would sit comfortably with your beliefs...

24 minutes ago, hotchilli said:

By a plane ticket and a condo in BKK

Doubt many have 5 to 10 million laying around. Same with everyone, how many expats in Thailand got that? 15% at best 

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2 hours ago, klauskunkel said:

 

Understandable. Maybe do something about it...?

Its difficult to do so in a nation that is controlled entirely by Putins goons and FSB. Those who don't believe in the cult of Putin and his nihilistic, hateful, murderous plans are afraid, deathly afraid for thei=r lives if they oppose him. 

Gutless cowards. If you’re not happy about putin’s rule grow a pair and toss him out. Otherwise do what he says and fight. Running away from your obligation is cowardly. 

They re being kicked out of Latvia 

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Jump on a plane and come over here Peter i have a nice house in Hua Hin just right for a Russian family just round the corner from immigration which is already full of your countrymen pushing in front of me with their agents.

35 minutes ago, AustinRacing said:

Gutless cowards. If you’re not happy about putin’s rule grow a pair and toss him out. Otherwise do what he says and fight. Running away from your obligation is cowardly. 

correct .....   they weren't complaining when they are shooting children and shooting old folks in the back. 

Come on Peter ......   your next in line  ....     hahaha

10 hours ago, Social Media said:

Now I live in a state of constant fear. I can't plan anything," says Peter, 27.

get to the front line Peter you gutless coward ....    may you come home in a box .....   but highly unlikely because Russia just leaves the corpses in the field ....   

Sounds like it’s time for the Russian public to start a revolution and get rid of Putin internally! 

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1 hour ago, AustinRacing said:

Gutless cowards. If you’re not happy about putin’s rule grow a pair and toss him out. Otherwise do what he says and fight. Running away from your obligation is cowardly. 

That has to be a pretty senseless comment.

Anyone who says anything against Putin is likely to end up in gaol (or worse, thrown out of a window ).

Navalny tried to stop him and look where he is (for an extra 19 years).

Trump is going to jail. Put that in your Putin and smoke it. Russian draft dodgers are all over Thailand and probably a lot of other countries as well.

On 8/5/2023 at 7:50 AM, Social Media said:

The Russian parliament has also passed a bill that significantly increases fines for those who fail to show up at an enlistment office after they get a draft notice.

They can be fined up to 30,000 roubles (about £250/$315) when the law comes into force on 1 October. That is 10 times the current maximum fine.

I would so absolutely pay this fine.

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