CharlieH Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 Volodymyr Zelenskiy has warned Ukrainians to prepare for new waves of Russian attacks on infrastructure as winter approaches, saying that troops were anticipating an onslaught in the eastern theatre of the war. His comments came on Sunday as a military spokesperson said Russian attacks on the shattered eastern town of Avdiivka had eased in the past day, but were likely to intensify. And Ukrainian military intelligence said an explosion killed at least three Russian servicemen in the Russian-occupied southern town of Melitopol, which it described as an “act of revenge” by resistance groups. Zelenskiy issued his warning during his nightly video address a day after Russian forces carried out their first missile attack on the capital, Kyiv, in seven weeks. “We are almost halfway through November and must be prepared for the fact that the enemy may increase the number of drone or missile strikes on our infrastructure,” Zelenskiy said. “Russia is preparing for Ukraine. And here, in Ukraine, all attention should be focused on defence, on responding to terrorists, on everything that Ukraine can do to get through the winter and improve our soldiers’ capabilities.“ Last winter, about 10 months into the invasion, Russia made waves of attacks on power stations and other plants linked to the energy network, prompting rolling blackouts in widely disparate regions. The energy minister, German Galushchenko, said on Saturday that Ukraine would have enough energy resources to get through the winter, but added: “The question is how much future attacks can affect supplies.“ Ukrainian officials on Wednesday said Russia had struck Ukrainian infrastructure 60 times in recent weeks, an indication that a renewed campaign may already be under way. FULL STORY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KhunLA Posted November 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 13, 2023 This guy needs to throw in the towel, before the country is destroyed beyond repair. The people have suffered enough. RU has accomplished most of what it set out to do, and the last thing is regime change. How much of the country is he going to offer up, before he & govt relinquishes power back to the people. Surely he has his millions squirreled away, and will be retiring in comfort in the USA when all said & done. Reward for the proxy war and defense contractor's profits. Enough already ... 1 2 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RayC Posted November 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 13, 2023 30 minutes ago, KhunLA said: This guy needs to throw in the towel, before the country is destroyed beyond repair. The people have suffered enough. RU has accomplished most of what it set out to do, and the last thing is regime change. How much of the country is he going to offer up, before he & govt relinquishes power back to the people. Surely he has his millions squirreled away, and will be retiring in comfort in the USA when all said & done. Reward for the proxy war and defense contractor's profits. Enough already ... Completely incorrect. Firstly, RU (presumably Russia?) has achieved nowhere near its' goal of destroying Ukrainian nationalism. Secondly, at this moment in time, Zelensky has the support of the people. Maybe postwar, he will befall the same electoral fate as another wartime leader. But that will be decided at another time. The Ukrainian government and, more importantly, people seem to be resolute in their defiance of Putin despite the hardships they are enduring. As long as that is the case, imo the West has a moral duty to support them. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 RU only had 3 goals ... ... protect the people in the regions that no longer wanted to be ruled by UA ... de-militarize UA ... regime change 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wobblybob Posted November 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 13, 2023 1 minute ago, KhunLA said: RU only had 3 goals ... ... protect the people in the regions that no longer wanted to be ruled by UA ... de-militarize UA ... regime change Do you honestly believe the tripe you subscribe to. The regions were under no threat untill Putin sent his disruptive trouble makers in. Demilitarise Ukraine, that went well didn't it, just the same as NATO, there are more members in NATO now than in Feb 2022. Regime change, what has it got to do with the Rashists who runs Ukraine, none. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, Wobblybob said: Do you honestly believe the tripe you subscribe to. The regions were under no threat untill Putin sent his disruptive trouble makers in. Demilitarise Ukraine, that went well didn't it, just the same as NATO, there are more members in NATO now than in Feb 2022. Regime change, what has it got to do with the Rashists who runs Ukraine, none. Goes back to almost a decade, but keep your ear to MSM for your up to date spin. We'll just have to agree to disagree. Have a nice day 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wobblybob Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 6 minutes ago, KhunLA said: Goes back to almost a decade, but keep your ear to MSM for your up to date spin. We'll just have to agree to disagree. Have a nice day I know how far it goes back, 2014 is when Putin sent his agitators in to create this war that the Ukrainians are suffering at this present moment. Educate yourself before you come out with anymore of this nonsense and blaming Ukraine for the Russians illegally invading, now illegally occupying Ukraine. The claim that the armed conflict in eastern Ukraine in 2014 was triggered by domestic and economically-determined factors did not hold water then, any more than the current Russian claims are legitimate now https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2022-03-15-expert-comment-putin-s-war-how-did-we-get-here-ukraine-2014 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KhunLA Posted November 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, Wobblybob said: I know how far it goes back, 2014 is when Putin sent his agitators in to create this war that the Ukrainians are suffering at this present moment. Educate yourself before you come out with anymore of this nonsense and blaming Ukraine for the Russians illegally invading, now illegally occupying Ukraine. The claim that the armed conflict in eastern Ukraine in 2014 was triggered by domestic and economically-determined factors did not hold water then, any more than the current Russian claims are legitimate now https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2022-03-15-expert-comment-putin-s-war-how-did-we-get-here-ukraine-2014 Try starting with the USA backed regime change. The usual foreign policy. Rinse & repeat 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wobblybob Posted November 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 13, 2023 8 minutes ago, KhunLA said: Try starting with the USA backed regime change. The usual foreign policy. Rinse & repeat I supplied links, you supply opinions. Could do better! 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Wobblybob said: I supplied links, you supply opinions. Could do better! Asked & answered too many times already. No desire to repeat myself, along with 10 more replies from people who's source of info is MSM, controlled by those wanting the proxy war $$$$$$ We'll have to agree to disagree. Edited November 13, 2023 by KhunLA 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wobblybob Posted November 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 13, 2023 Just now, KhunLA said: Asked & answered too many times already. No desire to repeat myself, along with 10 more replies for people who's source info is MSM, controlled by those wanting the proxy war $$$$$$ We'll have to agree to disagree. Your statements have all been disproven before, unless you use TASS I doubt you'll find anything to support your claims. The most important points are that Russia illegally invaded Ukraine. Russia tried to march on Kyiv and were repelled. Russia held illegal voting in the Oblasts. Russia have illegally occupied Crimea since 2014. Russia is bombing civilian targets. Russia has committed more war crimes than I can swing a cat at. There are many more too but enough to be going on with. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayC Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 2 hours ago, KhunLA said: RU only had 3 goals ... ... protect the people in the regions that no longer wanted to be ruled by UA ... de-militarize UA ... regime change Could/ Should Ukraine have given more autonomy to Crimea and Donbass? Perhaps but this is no way justifies Russia's actions. As far your 3 stated goals are concerned: 1) I doubt that I would feel very protected if I lived in Crimea or Donbass right now. 2) and 3) clearly haven't been achieved. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post heybruce Posted November 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 13, 2023 16 hours ago, KhunLA said: Try starting with the USA backed regime change. The usual foreign policy. Rinse & repeat Complete nonsense. I have yet to see credible evidence of the US playing any significant role in the Maiden protests that toppled the Russian stooge President Viktor Yanukovych. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post heybruce Posted November 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 13, 2023 15 hours ago, KhunLA said: Asked & answered too many times already. No desire to repeat myself, along with 10 more replies from people who's source of info is MSM, controlled by those wanting the proxy war $$$$$$ We'll have to agree to disagree. You have yet to provide credible evidence. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 (edited) On 11/13/2023 at 3:55 PM, KhunLA said: This guy needs to throw in the towel, before the country is destroyed beyond repair. The people have suffered enough. RU has accomplished most of what it set out to do, and the last thing is regime change. How much of the country is he going to offer up, before he & govt relinquishes power back to the people. Surely he has his millions squirreled away, and will be retiring in comfort in the USA when all said & done. Reward for the proxy war and defense contractor's profits. Enough already ... IMO he'll never give it away, as he probably loves strutting around in his wannabe soldier costume being lauded by the UN and western world "leaders" and it's likely gone to his head. Pity so many had to die and so much destruction had to happen because he had dreams of being the conquering hero over Russia. So unfortunate that certain western leaders were sucked into the scam and thought they had a winner in him. After he runs away and whoever takes over has to "negotiate" an end to the proxy war, no doubt the western "leaders" will be disowning him to cover their own a**s from an unhappy populace that has to pay the bill with nothing to show for it, except death and destruction. Edited November 14, 2023 by thaibeachlovers 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 On 11/13/2023 at 2:09 PM, CharlieH said: Volodymyr Zelenskiy has warned Ukrainians to prepare for new waves of Russian attacks on infrastructure as winter approaches, saying that troops were anticipating an onslaught in the eastern theatre of the war. Could he be preparing them for a time without air defenses? Given the continuing rocket barrages in israel, looks like Zelensky will go begging when it comes to air defense missiles, as likely all the American ones will be diverted to israel. Oops, didn't expect that! 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 On 11/13/2023 at 7:36 PM, KhunLA said: Asked & answered too many times already. No desire to repeat myself, along with 10 more replies from people who's source of info is MSM, controlled by those wanting the proxy war $$$$$$ We'll have to agree to disagree. I'll have to agree with you. They have nothing except the MSM, LOL. 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RayC Posted November 15, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 15, 2023 (edited) 57 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: IMO he'll never give it away, as he probably loves strutting around in his wannabe soldier costume being lauded by the UN and western world "leaders" and it's likely gone to his head. Pity so many had to die and so much destruction had to happen because he had dreams of being the conquering hero over Russia. So unfortunate that certain western leaders were sucked into the scam and thought they had a winner in him. After he runs away and whoever takes over has to "negotiate" an end to the proxy war, no doubt the western "leaders" will be disowning him to cover their own a**s from an unhappy populace that has to pay the bill with nothing to show for it, except death and destruction. So having had your various historical falsehoods laid bare - e.g. lies about promises made at the Yalta conference; ignoring the Soviet invasions of Hungary and Czechoslovakia, etc. - and your misrepresentation of the current situation on the battlefield, you now decide to play amateur psychologist in an attempt to deflect attention from the truth. Sad and pathetic. Edited November 15, 2023 by RayC Grammar 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RayC Posted November 15, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 15, 2023 (edited) 47 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: Could he be preparing them for a time without air defenses? Given the continuing rocket barrages in israel, looks like Zelensky will go begging when it comes to air defense missiles, as likely all the American ones will be diverted to israel. Oops, didn't expect that! For someone who (unsuccessfully) likes to think of themself as impartial and insists that they just want an end to all the pain and suffering, you spend a disproportionate amount of time reporting and celebrating what you view as setbacks to the Ukrainian cause and, as far as I can see, absolutely none reporting Russian problems. Edited November 15, 2023 by RayC No edit made 3 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RayC Posted November 15, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 15, 2023 48 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: I'll have to agree with you. They have nothing except the MSM, LOL. So much better to rely on 'Pravda' and 'Russia Today' for an impartial view of events. 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post heybruce Posted November 16, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 16, 2023 On 11/14/2023 at 6:54 PM, thaibeachlovers said: I'll have to agree with you. They have nothing except the MSM, LOL. Too bad the people who insist MSM can't be trusted won't give us their trusted sources. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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