nong38 Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 A new law is being passed for the DWP in the UK to stop fraud, as from January 1st 2025 they will be able to access bank accounts where they suspect fraud may be taking place, all UK banks and building societies will be included by 2030. Thy will be looking at benefits claimed if you have over 16k in savings and also particularly highlighted, pensioners living abroad who claim to still have a UK address but out goings are going abroad. Data protection seems to mean nothing, privacy nothing. Another nail in Democracy, its the sort of thing I expected from behind the "Iron Curtain " this is in addition to all the surveillance cameras and phone location, things are not what they used to be. Soon the powers that be, the ones voted in will be able to ell you where you can and cannot spend your money. 1 2 Link to comment
Popular Post shunter Posted April 26 Popular Post Share Posted April 26 Perhaps a wiser move would be to stop handing out assistance to those who are flocking to the shores of the cornucopia of endless benefits known as the UK, for which they've contributed nothing to nor in the greater majority of them will contribute nothing to whilst they lay in free leeching comfort in the UK. The state sponsored theft of pension payments to some 550,000 ex- pat pensioners payment is indeed a disgusting and paltry act, penalizing those who have paid in full. Look after your own first please 1 1 1 5 Link to comment
roo860 Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 44 minutes ago, nong38 said: A new law is being passed for the DWP in the UK to stop fraud, as from January 1st 2025 they will be able to access bank accounts where they suspect fraud may be taking place, all UK banks and building societies will be included by 2030. Thy will be looking at benefits claimed if you have over 16k in savings and also particularly highlighted, pensioners living abroad who claim to still have a UK address but out goings are going abroad. Data protection seems to mean nothing, privacy nothing. Another nail in Democracy, its the sort of thing I expected from behind the "Iron Curtain " this is in addition to all the surveillance cameras and phone location, things are not what they used to be. Soon the powers that be, the ones voted in will be able to ell you where you can and cannot spend your money. This was discussed quite a few weeks ago, just waiting for Transam! Link to comment
Georgealbert Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 The Data Protection and Digital Information Bill, which will give the DWP these powers, is still at the House of Laws report stage. Given when a general election is called, this bill may be passed or not in time. https://bills.parliament.uk/bills/3430 Link to comment
Tiber Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Yet the DWP has repeatedly acknowledged their is no possible fraud linkage as to OAP. If you could possibly in your own good time please direct me to the wording that indicates fraudulent behaviour that indeed would be sanctioned /punishable/stoppage of OAP 1 Link to comment
BritManToo Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 (edited) 6 hours ago, nong38 said: pensioners living abroad who claim to still have a UK address but out goings are going abroad. I have no foreign payments leaving my UK bank account or debit card. If I had such payments my UK bank would cancel my bank account. Edited April 26 by BritManToo 3 1 Link to comment
transam Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 5 hours ago, roo860 said: This was discussed quite a few weeks ago, just waiting for Transam! I'm here, I'm here............ 1 1 Link to comment
transam Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 4 minutes ago, Tiber said: Yet the DWP has repeatedly acknowledged their is no possible fraud linkage as to OAP. If you could possibly in your own good time please direct me to the wording that indicates fraudulent behaviour that indeed would be sanctioned /punishable/stoppage of OAP Look who's turned up, with NO evidence, AGAIN..................🤣 Link to comment
transam Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 3 minutes ago, BritManToo said: I have no foreign payments leaving my UK bank account or debit card. Someone else sends them to you.......? 🤭 1 Link to comment
Tiber Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 2 minutes ago, transam said: Look who's turned up, with NO evidence, AGAIN..................🤣 All you have to do Sweet pea is open DWP website, there is all the information to hand. No nothings of "printed documents" but for yerself and dumber I'm sure could conjure up a page or two (even three) to suit your never ending losses 1 Link to comment
transam Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Just now, Tiber said: All you have to do Sweet pea is open DWP website, there is all the information to hand. No nothings of "printed documents" but for yerself and dumber I'm sure could conjure up a page or two (even three) to suit your never ending losses I don't need too, you need too, you are the one spouting fleece the Gov and commit fraud, it is for YOU to provide the evidence, but you can't because there is none............😆 How many times have you been buried here with all your different usernames, embarrassing or what............😄 1 Link to comment
Tiber Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 12 minutes ago, BritManToo said: I have no foreign payments leaving my UK bank account or debit card. If I had such payments my UK bank would cancel my bank account. Specifically not OAP, but more to do with long term issues Pension Credit, UC, PIP AA payments, Sickness payments, housing and so on. 1 Link to comment
Tiber Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 1 minute ago, transam said: I don't need too, you need too, you are the one spouting fleece the Gov and commit fraud, it is for YOU to provide the evidence, but you can't because there is none............😆 How many times have you been buried here with all your different usernames, embarrassing or what............😄 Is this the best you can do?, the absolute best? Its hardly worthy of a five year old. Look under Sanctionable punishments DWP ,go on look (if you can) Spyglass OAP....nothing, never will be. You can live under the misery of being frozen ,and I like it, as the singalong goes "Let it be,Let it be " lol 1 Link to comment
transam Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 6 minutes ago, Tiber said: Is this the best you can do?, the absolute best? Its hardly worthy of a five year old. Look under Sanctionable punishments DWP ,go on look (if you can) Spyglass OAP....nothing, never will be. You can live under the misery of being frozen ,and I like it, as the singalong goes "Let it be,Let it be " lol Very funny, post the link then, are you able to post links..........? 🤣 Link to comment
Tiber Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 4 minutes ago, transam said: Very funny, post the link then, are you able to post links..........? 🤣 Benefit fraud - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk) 1 Link to comment
transam Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 4 minutes ago, Tiber said: Benefit fraud - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk) Is there something in there about prosecution to get their money back, and/or to revert your pension to the date they estimate you left the UK to claim that money back, if so, could you point it out please.....? 😉 I mean, this was sent to me regarding my pension..... Link to comment
Chivas Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 I mentioned this the other day elsewhere when it was raised on the DWP own website The state pension or OAP as many call it is not sanctionable in any way. It cant be stopped or over payments recovered from I'm not going looking for the exact passage of text before someone asks for a link but I to was very surprised likewise Link to comment
Tiber Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 2 minutes ago, transam said: Is there something in there about prosecution to get their money back, and/or to revert your pension to the date they estimate you left the UK to claim that money back, if so, could you point it out please.....? 😉 I mean, this was sent to me regarding my pension..... Adult Dependency Increase. I do not know exactly what you are trying to indicate with reference to OAP, likened to requirement to having a licence for a dog You want to pipe down and go away,anybody living in Th with unfrozen pension knows they are untouchable Link to comment
transam Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Just now, Tiber said: Adult Dependency Increase. I do not know exactly what you are trying to indicate with reference to OAP, likened to requirement to having a licence for a dog You want to pipe down and go away,anybody living in Th with unfrozen pension knows they are untouchable More guesswork then, thank you.........🤗 Link to comment
scottiejohn Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 54 minutes ago, transam said: I'm here, I'm here............ You, I and many AN members are still living on this planet! Unfortunately there are certain members who are "away with the fairies" and incapable of making comprehensible posts with collaborating info when asked. 1 1 Link to comment
Tiber Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 1 minute ago, transam said: More guesswork then, thank you.........🤗 More like guessing you will be up to next, its pure bunkum, just like your passport stunts, etc etc etc it pure jealousy, you haven't got it, nor should anybody else 1 Link to comment
Tiber Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Just now, scottiejohn said: You, I and many AN members are still living on this planet! Unfortunately there are certain members who are "away with the fairies" and incapable of making comprehensible posts with collaborating info when asked. For you Id say go rest yer 'ead down 2 Link to comment
transam Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 3 minutes ago, Tiber said: More like guessing you will be up to next, its pure bunkum, just like your passport stunts, etc etc etc it pure jealousy, you haven't got it, nor should anybody else I don't think so, more like you worried about committing fraud........🤭 Link to comment
Tiber Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 1 minute ago, transam said: I don't think so, more like you worried about committing fraud........🤭 https://www.gov.uk/benefit-fraud No fraud, no stoppage, no backpay, added by Christmas bonus Thanking you 1 1 Link to comment
transam Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 1 minute ago, Tiber said: https://www.gov.uk/benefit-fraud No fraud, no stoppage, no backpay, added by Christmas bonus Thanking you Just as I thought, you cannot answer my questions, which I have asked many times of you, over the years............... 1 Link to comment
Tiber Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Just now, transam said: Just as I thought, you cannot answer my questions, which I have asked many times of you, over the years............... What questions specifically have I not answered? I have shown you linkage to what you requested (benefit fraud) none therein. It seems yourself through abject jealousy and the eyewatering losses you have suffered want to drag everybody down that hole with you 1 Link to comment
brianthainess Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Well thanks all for making it all perfectly clear ............ Benefit is not the OAP. So my 'friend' will get reported for sending money overseas once a year, or not. ????? 1 Link to comment
transam Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 1 minute ago, Tiber said: What questions specifically have I not answered? I have shown you linkage to what you requested (benefit fraud) none therein. It seems yourself through abject jealousy and the eyewatering losses you have suffered want to drag everybody down that hole with you Same ol' trollop. Nothing in Gov writing about the questions I asked you, what a surprise.....😂 UK pension is not stopped if you get caught fiddling, but it is reduced to the rate they say you moved to LOS, then they want the overpayment back, that is fact.... Is Tiber a bit worried about getting caught, yoooou bet.......😁 1 Link to comment
transam Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 2 minutes ago, brianthainess said: Well thanks all for making it all perfectly clear ............ Benefit is not the OAP. So my 'friend' will get reported for sending money overseas once a year, or not. ????? UP state pension is classed as a benefit. I think the dots are beginning to line up, the big brother PC is collecting all the data, the PC will issue the letters, man will deal with the final nail......😱 1 1 Link to comment
dick turpin Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Just now, Tiber said: Specifically not OAP, but more to do with long term issues Pension Credit, UC, PIP AA payments, Sickness payments, housing and so on. Absolutely correct, with the aim of tracking down many of the above payments which are sent abroad by fraudsters. Unfortunately, this in turn will have the effect of ensnaring OAPs living abroad and still claiming a UK address to maintain a full pension. The good news is the DWP says it is only going to be rolled out on a test basis from next year and then take five years to fully implement.. Link to comment
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