Thai Crops at Risk Due to Climate Change

[susanlea]

32 minutes ago, placeholder said:

 

Feeling inventive today?  How about this from the real world:

And this is from the latest IPCC report:

Regional changes in the intensity and frequency of climate
extremes generally scale with global warming. New evidence
strengthens the conclusion from the IPCC Special Report on
Global Warming of 1.5°C (SR1.5) that even relatively small
incremental increases in global warming (+0.5°C) cause
statistically significant changes in extremes on the global scale
and for large regions (high confidence). In particular, this is the
case for temperature extremes (very likely), the intensification
of heavy precipitation (high confidence) including that
associated with tropical cyclones (medium confidence), and
the worsening of droughts in some regions (high confidence).
The occurrence of extreme events unprecedented in the observed
record will rise with increasing global warming, even at 1.5°C of 

global warming. Projected percentage changes in frequency are
higher for the rarer extreme events (high confidence). {11.1, 11.2,
11.3, 11.4, 11.6, 11.9, Cross-Chapter Box 11

https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg1/downloads/report/IPCC_AR6_WGI_Chapter11.pdf

 

Rising CO2 Levels Reduce Nutritional Value of Rice
Higher concentrations of carbon dioxide are associated with reductions in protein and multiple key nutrients in rice, according to a new field study by an international team that included scientists from the University of Washington School of Public Health.

The study, published today in Science Advances, shows for the first time that rice grown at concentrations of atmospheric CO2 expected by the end of this century has lower levels of four key B vitamins. The findings also support research from other field studies showing rice grown under higher CO2 concentrations has less protein, iron and zinc.

https://sph.washington.edu/news-events/news/rising-co2-levels-reduce-nutritional-value-rice#:~:text=Higher concentrations of carbon dioxide,Washington School of Public Health.

 

 

Rice has never had much nutritional value and never will. Eggs have high nutritional value.

 

Only a climate change alarmist would talk about the nutritional value of rice.

Edited May 7 by susanlea

[susanlea]

1 hour ago, MarkBR said:

1 degree Hhigher in average temperature results in huge loss of production due to damage to flower formation (anthesis) seed production ( successful versus seed abortion).  Best computer modelled results are 10-13% loss in Thailand's rice production  by 2100.

Which means nothing. Rice is a nothing food. People should be eating meat, eggs, veges and fruit for their nutrional needs.

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37 minutes ago, susanlea said:

Rice has never had much nutritional value and never will. Eggs have high nutritional value.

 

Only a climate change alarmist would talk about the nutritional value of rice.

"Only a climate change alarmist would talk about the nutritional value of rice."

I have heard climate change "alarmists" accused of many nonsensical practices, but this piece of lunacy takes take.

You really don't have much use for science or data, do you?

 

Is rice a good source of protein?

"Rice, Oryza sativa, is the major staple food that provides a larger share of dietary energy for more of the population than other cereal crops. Moreover, rice has a significant amount of protein including four different fractions such as prolamin, glutelin, globulin, and albumin with different solubility characteristics. However, these proteins exhibit a higher amino acid profile, so they are nutritionally important and possess several functional properties. Compared with many other cereal grains, rice protein is hypoallergic due to the absence of gluten, and therefore it is used to formulate food for infants and gluten-allergic people. Furthermore, the availability makes rice an easily accessible protein source and it exhibits several activities in the human body which discernibly affect total health."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9370113/#:~:text=Moreover%2C rice has a significant,and possess several functional properties.

 

Before you made your commen, dDid you even consider that it has been the staple food for many nations and empires for millennia ?

 

And believe it or not, it is possible to include both rice and eggs in one's diet. It's not like you have to be a member of either Team Rice or Team Eggs.

 

And I noticed you still have nothing to back up your claim that warming has boosted crops by 35% since 2000.

[susanlea]

1 hour ago, placeholder said:

"Only a climate change alarmist would talk about the nutritional value of rice."

I have heard climate change "alarmists" accused of many nonsensical practices, but this piece of lunacy takes take.

You really don't have much use for science or data, do you?

 

Is rice a good source of protein?

"Rice, Oryza sativa, is the major staple food that provides a larger share of dietary energy for more of the population than other cereal crops. Moreover, rice has a significant amount of protein including four different fractions such as prolamin, glutelin, globulin, and albumin with different solubility characteristics. However, these proteins exhibit a higher amino acid profile, so they are nutritionally important and possess several functional properties. Compared with many other cereal grains, rice protein is hypoallergic due to the absence of gluten, and therefore it is used to formulate food for infants and gluten-allergic people. Furthermore, the availability makes rice an easily accessible protein source and it exhibits several activities in the human body which discernibly affect total health."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9370113/#:~:text=Moreover%2C rice has a significant,and possess several functional properties.

 

Before you made your commen, dDid you even consider that it has been the staple food for many nations and empires for millennia ?

 

And believe it or not, it is possible to include both rice and eggs in one's diet. It's not like you have to be a member of either Team Rice or Team Eggs.

 

And I noticed you still have nothing to back up your claim that warming has boosted crops by 35% since 2000.

Only an alarmist would think rice nutrition is a major factor in anything. Most absurd topic ever raised by you alarmists and that's difficult given how mad the scheme has become.

 

It is pretty easy to work out that food production has increased by at least 35% since 2000 since the population rose by 33%, obesity went up and the world hunger index went down.

 

The obesity crisis is real. The climate crisis is fake.

 

Your next response will be written on a product made using fossil fuels whilst wearing clothes and shoes made using fossil fuels but you don't see the irony in this and it will likely be as irrelevant as the rice nonsense.

Edited May 7 by susanlea

[susanlea]

https://www.bbcgoodfood.com/howto/guide/best-sources-protein

 

Rice is not there as it is only 7.2% protein and a high carb food which can spike insulin. Not the worst food but nowhere near the best.

 

I wouldn't expect an alarmist to know any of this.

[susanlea]

Here is the top 10 grains for protein and rice only ranks 5th. 6.5g per cup. A 150lb person is supposed to eat 150 grams per day for optimal muscle growth. A cup of rice provides about 4.3% of that so it is a terrible source of protein.

 

https://www.myfooddata.com/articles/grains-high-in-protein.php

[susanlea]

2 hours ago, placeholder said:

And believe it or not, it is possible to include both rice and eggs in one's diet. It's not like you have to be a member of either Team Rice or Team Eggs.

This is true but white rice is 80% carbs and low protein. 1 cup is 200 calories and only 3 to 5% of your daily protein needs. So on a calorie basis it is very high carb and low protein. It is also an incomplete protein unlike eggs which are almost the perfect source.

[MarkBR]

On 5/7/2024 at 4:15 AM, MicroB said:

Blocked Susan lea for not reading.

I think she has greater problems with logical rational thinking.

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22 hours ago, susanlea said:

This is true but white rice is 80% carbs and low protein. 1 cup is 200 calories and only 3 to 5% of your daily protein needs. So on a calorie basis it is very high carb and low protein. It is also an incomplete protein unlike eggs which are almost the perfect source.

"How much protein is in an egg? On average, a medium-size egg contains around 6.4 grams of protein which makes up around 12.6% of the overall edible portion."

How much protein i

The thing is, eggs don't just happen by magic, do they?

It takes chicken feed. And what does chicken feed consist of?

"The main ingredient of all chicken feed (over 85%) is grains and grain by-products, protein-producing seeds, and meal made from them such as canola or soybean meal. So, in essence, all chicken is “grain-fed.”

And what is  the ratio of chicken feed consumed to eggs generated:

"The average FCR can vary depending on various factors, including genetics, nutrition, management practices, and environmental conditions. However, a commonly accepted range for FCR in laying hens is between 2,5 and 4,0. This means that, on average, it takes 2,5 to 4,0 kilograms of feed to produce one dozen (12) eggs"

So if it takes on average 3.25 kilograms to produce 12 eggs, that mean takes about 250 grams of grain, over half a pound, to produce one egg or about 7 grams of protein. Not so efficient.

As you apparently aren't aware, a far more efficient way to get a complete protein is to combine eggs with soybeans in a 2 to 1 ratio. For pulses the ratio is closer to 1 to 1. 

It's clear that the civilizations of the east have hit upon a far more efficient way of getting their protein needs met than yours does. What a shocker that is!

 

 

[Gknrd]

First tourism from climate change now food. Sounds like a pretty bleak future. 

[susanlea]

1 hour ago, Gknrd said:

First tourism from climate change now food. Sounds like a pretty bleak future. 

Future sounds pretty good. Lots of nice hotels, gyms, beaches and plenty of food. Life has never been better.

[Gknrd]

32 minutes ago, susanlea said:

Future sounds pretty good. Lots of nice hotels, gyms, beaches and plenty of food. Life has never been better.

Yes, it's paradise ... 

[MicroB]

On 5/7/2024 at 5:56 AM, Skipalongcassidy said:

BLOCKING is the newest liberal left 'SAFE PLACE'

 

Funnily enought I am a card carrying member of the Conservative and Unionist Party..

 

I take it you are a Septic Tank.

[Skipalongcassidy]

4 minutes ago, MicroB said:

I take it you are a Septic Tank.

Can I use that?

[MarkBR]

On 5/7/2024 at 4:06 PM, placeholder said:

"Only a climate change alarmist would talk about the nutritional value of rice."

I have heard climate change "alarmists" accused of many nonsensical practices, but this piece of lunacy takes take.

You really don't have much use for science or data, do you?

 

Is rice a good source of protein?

"Rice, Oryza sativa, is the major staple food that provides a larger share of dietary energy for more of the population than other cereal crops. Moreover, rice has a significant amount of protein including four different fractions such as prolamin, glutelin, globulin, and albumin with different solubility characteristics. However, these proteins exhibit a higher amino acid profile, so they are nutritionally important and possess several functional properties. Compared with many other cereal grains, rice protein is hypoallergic due to the absence of gluten, and therefore it is used to formulate food for infants and gluten-allergic people. Furthermore, the availability makes rice an easily accessible protein source and it exhibits several activities in the human body which discernibly affect total health."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9370113/#:~:text=Moreover%2C rice has a significant,and possess several functional properties.

 

Before you made your commen, dDid you even consider that it has been the staple food for many nations and empires for millennia ?

 

And believe it or not, it is possible to include both rice and eggs in one's diet. It's not like you have to be a member of either Team Rice or Team Eggs.

 

And I noticed you still have nothing to back up your claim that warming has boosted crops by 35% since 2000.

This is interesting https://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/13979 about crop production

[MarkBR]

Just now, MarkBR said:

This is interesting https://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/13979 about crop production

Ignore the last three words, not sure if they might disrupt the link.  Here is the link without the "about crop production"

https://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/13979