Will Kamala Denounce the Pro Terrorist Demonstrators

[Patong2021]

9 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Wow, the old good Nazi lie again, how funny is that? 

 

There was no mention  of Nazis in my comment, nor did I even reference them. The question  was "Will Kamala Denounce the Pro Terrorist Demonstrators"    I provided both the  WH statement and a recorded  incident where VP Harris told them off.  What exactly was factually incorrect with my response and what do you not comprehend with the words?  I condemn any individuals associating with the brutal terrorist organization Hamas, which has vowed to annihilate the State of Israel and kill Jews. Pro-Hamas graffiti and rhetoric is abhorrent and we must not tolerate it in our nation.  I condemn the burning of the American flag.

 

What's funny is that the jew hater collective will trot out the Trump supposed support for Israel when they need to attack political opponents.   I find it admirable that the US jewish community is mostly secular and puts a priority on national issues.  They are like many other socially assimilated US voters who put their country first. Examples are the  US Catholics who do that, and North Asian heritage people who do that.

There is one religious block currently holding their rallies, some foreign initiated and surreptitiously fund, who support an Iran/Russian allied terrorist group. Currently, they are targeting the Democrat Party Convention. These are the same people who come out to riot and protest when an opportunity arises for political disruption. In the past, they also had support from the people who had  participated in the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, VA.  The far right's previous ties to extremist foreign groups has been well documented. Chaos and instability serve both their political interests.

[Patong2021]

On 8/20/2024 at 7:37 AM, Rob Browder said:

Nice try.  Anyone who doesn't support the actions of a nation-state "hate" the majority ethnic-group who live in it?  You can't argue the facts, so go for the race-smear.  Typical.  Nevermind how many of the demonstrators happen to be Jewish.  

 

Israel's actions are "terrorist" in nature - further bolstered by members of the ruling coalition publicly justifying the anal rape of prisoners. 

 

Israel's acts are not "terrorist" in nature. You have relied on information, particularly a narrative that has been crafted by Hamas and its supporters. For example, Israel  targets a former school and civilians are killed or injured. What is not mentioned, is that the  location is used as a missile firing site and that prior to the attack had fired multiple missiles into Israel. What is not mentioned is that the  jihadis firing the missile intentionally located in the former school which had also served as a munitions storage site and that no longer had any educational function months ago. The civilian population were either invited to stay there by the jihadis or knowingly located to present as martyrs to their cause knowing that the IDF would act to neutralize the location.  President Biden understands this. Other responsible members of both political  parties understand this. This same strategy was used in Afghanistan and in Iraq.  Ambushes were often carried out by the Taliban  from  civilian villages. They wanted civilans to die because it allowed public opinion in the west to be manipulated. ISIL intentionally used human shields in Iraq and most every time the US defended itself from attack, civilians were inevitably harmed.  

[Yellowtail]

6 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

 

There was no mention  of Nazis in my comment, nor did I even reference them. The question  was "Will Kamala Denounce the Pro Terrorist Demonstrators"    I provided both the  WH statement and a recorded  incident where VP Harris told them off.  What exactly was factually incorrect with my response and what do you not comprehend with the words?  I condemn any individuals associating with the brutal terrorist organization Hamas, which has vowed to annihilate the State of Israel and kill Jews. Pro-Hamas graffiti and rhetoric is abhorrent and we must not tolerate it in our nation.  I condemn the burning of the American flag.

 

What's funny is that the jew hater collective will trot out the Trump supposed support for Israel when they need to attack political opponents.   I find it admirable that the US jewish community is mostly secular and puts a priority on national issues.  They are like many other socially assimilated US voters who put their country first. Examples are the  US Catholics who do that, and North Asian heritage people who do that.

There is one religious block currently holding their rallies, some foreign initiated and surreptitiously fund, who support an Iran/Russian allied terrorist group. Currently, they are targeting the Democrat Party Convention. These are the same people who come out to riot and protest when an opportunity arises for political disruption. In the past, they also had support from the people who had  participated in the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, VA.  The far right's previous ties to extremist foreign groups has been well documented. Chaos and instability serve both their political interests.

I was talking about the "very fine people on both sides" lie you regurgitated. Sorry for the confusion.

 

Biden keeps regurgitating that lie, the suckers and losers lie, and the bloodbath lie as well, and never gets called on it. 

 

Why should I care that Trump lies, if you don't care about Biden lying?

 

 

[cjinchiangrai]

19 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Of course. Its the Jews. The worlds bad guys. Always uncomfortable allies with the Democratic Party who loved their socialism and hated their capitalism. The blatant antisemitism now exhibited by the Democratic has a long history in their party and is an integral part of their philosophy.

 

I understand furriners not knowing American political history in depth but its inexecusable for Americans not to know it.

Maybe you would prefer to support Putin.

[cdnvic]

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[Rob Browder]

On 8/21/2024 at 7:02 PM, Yagoda said:

Of course. Its the Jews. The worlds bad guys. Always uncomfortable allies with the Democratic Party who loved their socialism and hated their capitalism. The blatant antisemitism now exhibited by the Democratic has a long history in their party and is an integral part of their philosophy.

 

I understand furriners not knowing American political history in depth but its inexecusable for Americans not to know it.

Regarding history, you might want to look into the split among Jewish Americans during the Civil War; they were on both sides of that conflict and with regard to slavery-policy, which was only one of many factors in that war. 

 

Recall that slavery was "normal" around the world, until European nations began to ban the practice - carrying that policy world-wide.

 

Returning to the present, I suggest you familiarize yourself with the political players in both parties.  You will not find any evidence of "antisemitism" in either branch - not in staffing, think-tanks (R or D flavors), etc.  In both major parties, and from libertarians to communists, there is no "antisemitism" evident.

 

There are tiny elements in the far right which are antisemitic, though they don't influence Republican policy.  On the Left, you should investigate who organized and funded Antifa (both historically in Germany, and recently in the USA) - you might be surprised. 

 

Historical facts are not "anti-group" anything - they are just the "who, what, when, and why" of understanding history.

[Rob Browder]

21 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

 

Israel's acts are not "terrorist" in nature. You have relied on information, particularly a narrative that has been crafted by Hamas and its supporters.

 No, I read the Israeli press reports, primarily - and have seen videos the IDF release, themselves - bragging about the things they are doing. 

 

It is apparently not permitted to report here, what anyone can read in Ha'aretz and other Israeli sources, but it is no secret to those not in a "curated" bubble. 

See also the shocking polls of approval of such behavior by the local-public there, who are not sheltered from the horrifying truth.

 

I suggest you stop relying on Western MSM sources, and read what they publish / post in Israel.

 

[Yagoda]

19 minutes ago, Rob Browder said:

 No, I read the Israeli press reports, primarily - and have seen videos the IDF release, themselves - bragging about the things they are doing. 

 

It is apparently not permitted to report here, what anyone can read in Ha'aretz and other Israeli sources, but it is no secret to those not in a "curated" bubble. 

See also the shocking polls of approval of such behavior by the local-public there, who are not sheltered from the horrifying truth.

 

I suggest you stop relying on Western MSM sources, and read what they publish / post in Israel.

 

Outed heavily

[Patong2021]

18 minutes ago, Rob Browder said:

 No, I read the Israeli press reports, primarily - and have seen videos the IDF release, themselves - bragging about the things they are doing. 

 

It is apparently not permitted to report here, what anyone can read in Ha'aretz and other Israeli sources, but it is no secret to those not in a "curated" bubble. 

See also the shocking polls of approval of such behavior by the local-public there, who are not sheltered from the horrifying truth.

 

I suggest you stop relying on Western MSM sources, and read what they publish / post in Israel.

 

 

You confuse individual wrongdoing with state sanctioned terrorism. If there was  state sponsored terrorism as you insist, then there would not be Israeli media reports, nor Israeli initiated investigations, and certainly not Israeli judicial inquiries and punishment and compensation where necessary.   Your logic is no different than the Trump collective  claims that VP Harris is anti Israel because of her  measured support  or the claims of the extremist groups, many who are funded by third party foreign entities, that VP Harris is an Israeli stooge because she has condemned  terrorism including Hamas and Hezbollah.

[Rob Browder]

33 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

You confuse individual wrongdoing with state sanctioned terrorism.  If there was  state sponsored terrorism as you insist, then there would not be Israeli media reports, nor Israeli initiated investigations, and certainly not Israeli judicial inquiries and punishment and compensation where necessary. 

Members of the ruling coalition are making public justifications for criminal behavior.  It is reported in the press there, because not everyone in Israel agrees with what their government is doing.  It is also reported, and condemned, in the USA by people of the same ethnic-background.

 

This why I do not lump all people of an ethnic-group into one box.  Ironically, those who claim to be defenders of Israel are the ones pretending it's people, and members of the same group world-wide, are some sort of monolith.  Nothing could be further from the truth.

 

Civilian casualties in a fire-fight, where un-uniformed enemy-combatants, aka "partisans," are firing at military-forces from a crowd is one thing.  Cold-blooded actions, taken out of revenge, upon those who are not currently a threat are something else, and rightly condemned, historically.

 

We will see if the judicial proceedings go anywhere.  If history is predictive, a slap on the wrist at most.  But, I would like to be proven wrong.