The debate thread.

[diceman]

3 hours ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

It is staggering isn’t it……and to think 70 million plus people will still be voting for him?????

 

 

Or her

[Purdey]

Not sure if it matters who "won" or "lost" but whether the debate answered voters' questions about policy.

[bubblegum]

12 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

as opposed to Harris already having 3.5 years to do hers

Frank you seem to forget a lot off things. How many years did Trump already have for his "concept" again? 

[maesariang]

Just now, Purdey said:

Not sure if it matters who "won" or "lost" but whether the debate answered voters' questions about policy.

Even black women who said she won still don't know her policies.

[rudi49jr]

Trump was lying his @ss off, as usual.

 

“Former President Donald Trump delivered more than 30 false claims during Tuesday’s presidential debate against Vice President Kamala Harris, CNN’s preliminary count found – as he did during his June debate against President Joe Biden.”
 

“Harris was far more accurate than Trump; CNN’s preliminary count found just one false claim from the vice president, though she also added some claims that were misleading or lacking in key context.“

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/09/10/politics/fact-check-debate-trump-harris/index.html

[bubblegum]

Looking at all these Trump voters I realize the 1 and only thing Trump said that's the truth: I can shoot somebody on 5th Avenue and no one (meaning his supporters) would care.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

32 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

And Harris is still a far left radical. 

 

Only in deluded MAGA land....

162 lies and distortions in a news conference. NPR fact-checks former President Trump

August 11, 2024

...

"7. “Kamala's record is horrible. She's a radical left person at a level that nobody's seen.” 

 

It’s debatable how liberal Harris is. Some in California didn’t like her record on criminal justice and thought she was not progressive enough. She’s clearly liked by progressives and her voting scores as a senator are on the liberal end of the spectrum, but is she “radical left” and “at a level that nobody’s seen”? There are plenty of people alive and in history who would be considered far more liberal and more radical."

 

https://www.npr.org/2024/08/11/nx-s1-5070566/trump-news-conference

 

AND

 

Trump calls Harris a Marxist, a communist, even a fascist. Why his wild punches don’t land

 

"So why is Trump’s free-swinging rhetoric failing?

 

For one thing, Harris isn’t — and never has been — a Marxist, and most voters appear to recognize that.

 

In her abortive presidential campaign in 2019, she cast herself as a progressive — but she was still closer to the center than candidates like independent Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, who (unlike Harris) describes himself as a democratic socialist."

 

https://archive.ph/wjUg0

 

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2024-09-02/presidential-election-donald-trump-calls-kamala-harris-a-marxist-a-communist-even-a-fascist-why-his-wild-punches-arent-landing

 

[bubblegum]

1 minute ago, maesariang said:

Even black women who said she won still don't know her policies.

Told you many times before: THINK before you post ! Read it back and see just how bad you sound.

[Will B Good]

Just now, bubblegum said:

Looking at all these Trump voters I realize the 1 and only thing Trump said that's the truth: I can shoot somebody on 5th Avenue and no one (meaning his supporters) would care.

 

It is like a cult….and Trump is the biggest cult going…..damn spell checker.

[Cameroni]

Just now, Inderpland said:

Not over the denial phase, are we.

 

There's nothing to deny. I saw the debate. What happened was moderators directing the debate and fact checking it only against one person. The moderators were unfair, uneven and obviously out to go against Trump. Even so, Harris offered little by way of policy, only attacked Trump, with fake smirking. What did she do to win exactly?

[Will B Good]

Just now, maesariang said:

Harris dodged most questions with vague statements.

 

 

Did you fast forward each of Trump’s responses?

 

 

[Cameroni]

1 minute ago, maesariang said:

Harris dodged most questions with vague statements.

 

As usual, even the left media concedes she gave little in terms of policy. She did nothing to win this debate.

[maesariang]

2 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

Did you fast forward each of Trump’s responses?

 

 

Trump was poor as well. I said already it was bad. 4 each. But we know Trump policies. We don't know Harris. Known vs unknown.

[Inderpland]

7 minutes ago, maesariang said:

Even black women who said she won still don't know her policies.

When the alternative is a convicted criminal who's also found liable for sexual abuse and who brags about grabbing their p*****s why do you think that is a deal breaker given that the heinous one left out his policies entirely?

 

PS. To be fair, he did say he had a concept of a policy so maybe that was the clincher for many undecided! 

[Purdey]

14 minutes ago, maesariang said:

Even black women who said she won still don't know her policies.

That is not a large sample size but still, all the dick comparisons aren't helping.

[Inderpland]

4 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

As usual, even the left media concedes she gave little in terms of policy. She did nothing to win this debate.

And yet won it she did. Now, what does that tell you about trump's performance?

[maesariang]

1 minute ago, Purdey said:

That is not a large sample size but still, all the dick comparisons aren't helping.

An alien watching that debate would think humans are idiots.

[Will B Good]

5 minutes ago, maesariang said:

She is polling bad. These vague statements don't help.

 

 

Fortunately the polls don’t matter….only the actual election…..and she is a nailed on winner.

[Inderpland]

4 minutes ago, maesariang said:

She is polling bad. These vague statements don't help.

A quick google search shows that all polls post debate has Harris strengthening her position so you flat out lie again.

[Gecko123]

Trump Media and Technology (DJT) stock down 11.5% in pre-market trading at 7:25 AM

[Inderpland]

4 minutes ago, maesariang said:

An alien watching that debate would think humans are idiots.

An alien watching the debate would take one look at Trump and say "Well f*** me, we're not the only aliens on the planet!"

[Amethyst]

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[thaibeachlovers]

5 minutes ago, Inderpland said:

A quick google search shows that all polls post debate has Harris strengthening her position so you flat out lie again.

Not long enough for proper polls. Wait a week.

[maesariang]

5 minutes ago, Inderpland said:

A quick google search shows that all polls post debate has Harris strengthening her position so you flat out lie again.

They ran polls in 1 hour? 

[thaibeachlovers]

10 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Even your link is heavily leaning towards Harris. Your conclusion doesn't match the general opinion. Also many trump defenders here are more honest. It probably won't change their vote, if they can vote, but the general opinion is a clear win for Harris.

Yeah, she is still an awful candidate, win or lose.

[maesariang]

Just now, thaibeachlovers said:

Not long enough for proper polls. Wait a week.

Polls normally take 2 to 7 days

 

He found 2 hour polls 

[Cameroni]

10 minutes ago, Inderpland said:

And yet won it she did. Now, what does that tell you about trump's performance?

 

No she did not, in fact Trump finished better, when she went on and on about "I will create an opportunity economy" ...I will do this and that, Trump simply countered "She's been in office for 3 and a half years, why did she not do it already?".

 

Ultimately there was no comeback for that. Kamala Harris promised to do this or that, but she's been in office almost 4 years, and did not do the things she promised.

[Inderpland]

2 minutes ago, maesariang said:

They ran polls in 1 hour? 

Not sure about your grasp on reality but the debate was over hours ago.

[Will B Good]

14 minutes ago, maesariang said:

She is polling bad. These vague statements don't help.

 

 

They ran these polls in the last hour?

 

 

[rudi49jr]

1 minute ago, maesariang said:

They ran polls in 1 hour? 

Had they been in favor of Trump you’d have quoted them as undeniable truths, wouldn’t you?