Seven-Month Trial Scheduled for Red Bull Heir's Hit-and-Run Mishandling Case

[Aussie999]

2 hours ago, connda said:

They could try him in-absentia but they won't.  The kid is like Tony - they are Teflon to the Thai judiciary system.

absolutely, most of us know there was never any intention to bring him back...

[Aussie999]

All forum members... Liverpool Joe keeps pushing that he knows more than everyone else.. even saying, many times, we cannot see the entire Interpol database, this is in fact true, BUT the Red notice for Vorayuth has ALWAYS been public, as reported by the RTP AND the Red notice I have attached (check the date, top left).. it is very clear, top right corner. This notice is no longer on the site, in fact, no-one, except the RTP have seen it, some ask is it a fake, we will never know. I know Joe will reply... but I am not interested in his BS.

Edited September 11 by Aussie999

[bristolgeoff]

You can make some kind of comparrison to thaksim to red bull he waited made a deal returned and now look what has happened.The red bull case will continue another couple years then it is all closed up and he is found somewhere or a deal  will happen

[thaichiro]

Why don’t they just have a trial for the spoilt brat in absentia. That way there is no statute of limitations.

Edited September 11 by thaichiro

[Liverpool Lou]

2 hours ago, Aussie999 said:

4 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

You're missing the fact that most of Interpol's notices are not viewable by the public, their website confirms that.

you missed the fact the RTP said is was a public notice.

You're missing the fact that initially public notices (and his was one of those as proven by its availability on Google) can be moved to the publicly unviewable part of the data as can decided by Interpol.

[Liverpool Lou]

2 hours ago, Aussie999 said:

4 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

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Don't start that again... you know it was withdrawn

Don't you start that misinformation again, you do not know that, no one in any position to know (including Interpol) has ever been quoted as saying that it was withdrawn, only that it is no longer publicly viewable, along with 90% of all the other many tens of thousands of Interpol notices.

[Liverpool Lou]

4 hours ago, connda said:

They could try him in-absentia but they won't. 

No they can't so they won't because they cannot normally have trials in absentia in this country except for political cases.  

[Liverpool Lou]

2 hours ago, Aussie999 said:

the Red notice for Vorayuth has ALWAYS been public

...until it wasn't.  Doesn't mean that it is not there for police forces' uses.

[Liverpool Lou]

 

2 hours ago, Aussie999 said:

we cannot see the entire Interpol database, this is in fact true

 

2 hours ago, Aussie999 said:

This notice is no longer on the site

How do you know if, as you said yourself, "we cannot see the entire Interpol database"

[Liverpool Lou]

2 hours ago, Aussie999 said:

Liverpool Joe keeps pushing that he knows more than everyone else.. even saying, many times, we cannot see the entire Interpol database, this is in fact true

QED.

[Elkski]

What ever happened to the getaway jet left in Singapore.  Seems like the pilot and crew should have faced jail time.   Just imagine how Thailand was before the pesky internet and social media.    19 wives for all rich and royal guys. 

[sherwood]

7 hours ago, suestra29 said:

Interesting that they are not charging the parents for aiding and abetting his escape and avoiding the law. Also they should charge whoever said there was a interpol red notice on him. 

Yer some media fella tried that on dear old dad and was slapped with a 40 million slander case.

Put a bounty on the kid-man and he would be back in town in no time flat.

No this prick is untouchable.

[watchcat]

18 hours ago, webfact said:

The trial for the mishandling of the 2012 hit-and-run case involving Red Bull heir Vorayuth “Boss” Yoovidhya

 

No need for a trial, just hang him.

[Thumbs]

Miss handling implies this was mistakes due to incompetence, this was outright corruption and perverting the course of justice, not seeing any of the family getting dragged in for actually bribing or coercing these guys into trying to ensure lad didn’t face justice. Only way to have him brought back is for a worldwide boycott on redbull and its subsidiaries (bud light blitz)

[Aussie999]

13 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

...until it wasn't.  Doesn't mean that it is not there for police forces' uses.

Prove it was moved, otherwise you speak BS... Shame on you

[Aussie999]

13 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

 

 

How do you know if, as you said yourself, "we cannot see the entire Interpol database"

Stop trying to cover your lying butt...

[richard_smith237]

28 minutes ago, Aussie999 said:

13 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

...until it wasn't.  Doesn't mean that it is not there for police forces' uses.

Prove it was moved, otherwise you speak BS... Shame on you

 

Firstly, get his name correct - is Lou not Joe, which implies that in your haste to argue you lack an attention to basic detail.

 

Back on topic: Liverpool Lou has pointed out on here and in other threads - while the Interpol Red Notice was public record, not all Police and Interpol Records are public record or can be accessed by the general members of public - there are apparently 1000's and 1000's of notices that we, the public do not get to see.

 

You (Aussie999) are arguing that the notice has been completely removed because the general public can no longer find the Interpol Red Noice on the publicly accessible area's  Interpol's Website - Just because you cannot see the notice, it does not mean that it is removed from Interpol's Intranet.

 

Liverpool Lou is arguing that the notice remains on the Interpol Intranet, while no longer accessible to the general public - that seems perfectly feasible, although I don't know why they would do that.

 

 

Edited September 12 by richard_smith237

[Liverpool Lou]

12 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Firstly, get his name correct - is Lou not Joe, which implies that in your haste to you lack an attention to basic detail.

 

Back on topic: Liverpool Lou has pointed out on here and in other threads - while the Interpol Red Notice was public record, not all Police and Interpol Records are public record or can be accessed by the general members of public - there are apparently 1000's and 1000's of notices that we, the public do not get to see.

 

You (Aussie999) are arguing that the notice has been completely removed because the general public can no longer find the Interpol Red Noice on the publicly accessible area's  Interpol's Website - Just because you cannot see the notice, it does not mean that it is removed from Interpol's Intranet.

 

Liverpool Lou is arguing that the notice remains on the Interpol Intranet, while no longer accessible to the general public - that seems perfectly feasible, although I don't know why they would do that.

 

 

At last, someone gets it...thanks. 

[Liverpool Lou]

34 minutes ago, Aussie999 said:

13 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

 

 

How do you know if, as you said yourself, "we cannot see the entire Interpol database"

Stop trying to cover your lying butt...

The liar is the one who cannot produce any evidence to back his claims, I have shown definitive evidence to justify my factual comments, you have not shown any evidence that the notice has been withdrawn.

To clarify...

"The majority of Red Notices are restricted to law enforcement use only.

Extracts of Red Notices are published at the request of the member country concerned and where the public’s help may be needed to locate an individual or if the individual may pose a threat to public safety"

https://www.interpol.int/en/How-we-work/Notices/Red-Notices/View-Red-Notices

 

 

 

Edited September 12 by Liverpool Lou

[Tropicalevo]

19 hours ago, suestra29 said:

Interesting that they are not charging the parents for aiding and abetting his escape and avoiding the law. Also they should charge whoever said there was a interpol red notice on him. 

 

They should also charge the pilot of the private RB jet that ferries him in and out of the country when he 'pops back'.

 

As the 'law' has admitted that the case was 'probably' mishandled, maybe they should re-instate all of the arrest warrants that have passed their statute of limitations.

[Liverpool Lou]

20 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Liverpool Lou is arguing that the notice remains on the Interpol Intranet, while no longer accessible to the general public - that seems perfectly feasible, although I don't know why they would do that.

It is because the member forces of Interpol do not need any public "assistance" that may be generated by civilians seeing wanted notices for the likes of Vorayuth - it would be of no help to the relevant authorities as all the police forces already have the information that he is the subject of a red notice.

[Liverpool Lou]

2 minutes ago, Tropicalevo said:

They should also charge the pilot of the private RB jet that ferries him in and out of the country when he 'pops back'.

Charge him for what...since when has flying a passenger to wherever he wants to go been illegal?   What makes you claim that he "pops back" here, anyway?

[Liverpool Lou]

6 minutes ago, Tropicalevo said:

maybe they should re-instate all of the arrest warrants that have passed their statute of limitations.

A ridiculous suggestion, by definition, those charges no longer exist.

[Liverpool Lou]

15 hours ago, thaichiro said:

Why don’t they just have a trial for the spoilt brat in absentia. That way there is no statute of limitations.

Because Thai law does not allow that for offence of the type with which Vorayuth is charged.

[richard_smith237]

9 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

It is because the member forces of Interpol do not need any public "assistance" that may be generated by civilians seeing wanted notices for the likes of Vorayuth - it would be of no help to the relevant authorities as all the police forces already have the information that he is the subject of a red notice.

 

Make sense.... But it also 'opens up the void' to speculation that the notice has been removed (hence the comments in this thread).

 

That in itself can lead to a certain degree of unrest and lasting distrust in the policing services.

 

Removing the Red Notice for Vorayuth from the public domain is an extremely clumsy move IMO. There is no evidence for the general public the notice still exists - this in itself lends to the very suspicious being drawn here and amongst the Thai public that this man continues to secure 'assistance' from authorities who may be 'turning a blind eye' instead of doing all they can to catch him.

 

 

 

 

[Liverpool Lou]

13 hours ago, Elkski said:

What ever happened to the getaway jet left in Singapore.  Seems like the pilot and crew should have faced jail time. 

Nothing happened to him and nothing should have happened to him as he committed no offences.   At the time Vorayuth left Thailand there was no warrant for his arrest (it was issued a day or so later) nor was he banned from leaving the country.   

[richard_smith237]

3 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Because Thai law does not allow that for offence of the type with which Vorayuth is charged.

 

Laws can be 'altered' under special circumstances, particularly when the interests of the general public are concerned - in this case the 'interests of the general public are that the a legal system is followed even for those seemingly untouchable'... 

 

... all thats happening at the moment is that the process reconfirms that those who are considered untouchable, are in fact, untouchable and the law is dual tiered favouring the wealthy - as if anyone ever thought any differently anyway.

 

 

In the UK just recently a Judge overruled that the name of a minor to be released to prevent further rioting in the UK (following the Southport attacks) - I know the UK is a different country, but the legal systems are very similar. 

 

Given such examples - there is no reason why a 'judicial ruling' can not be applied - that the case is tried in absentia or at least removing the statute of limitations due to his fleeing and absense. 

[Liverpool Lou]

11 hours ago, sherwood said:

Put a bounty on the kid-man and he would be back in town in no time flat.

This is real life, not a TV series or a film!  Kidnapping him would be illegal and would guarantee, 100%, that his case would be thrown out of court and the kidnappers charged instead.

[Liverpool Lou]

1 hour ago, Aussie999 said:

14 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

...until it wasn't.  Doesn't mean that it is not there for police forces' uses.

Prove it was moved, otherwise you speak BS... Shame on you

Prove it was withdrawn, otherwise you speak BS... Shame on you.

Edited September 12 by Liverpool Lou

[Aussie999]

2 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Firstly, get his name correct - is Lou not Joe, which implies that in your haste to argue you lack an attention to basic detail.

 

Back on topic: Liverpool Lou has pointed out on here and in other threads - while the Interpol Red Notice was public record, not all Police and Interpol Records are public record or can be accessed by the general members of public - there are apparently 1000's and 1000's of notices that we, the public do not get to see.

 

You (Aussie999) are arguing that the notice has been completely removed because the general public can no longer find the Interpol Red Noice on the publicly accessible area's  Interpol's Website - Just because you cannot see the notice, it does not mean that it is removed from Interpol's Intranet.

 

Liverpool Lou is arguing that the notice remains on the Interpol Intranet, while no longer accessible to the general public - that seems perfectly feasible, although I don't know why they would do that.

 

 

Thank you for correcting me... but as I have alos pointed out, the last notice clearly stated "Public" though it was never seen. Also, as you should be aware there why was a second Red Notice issued unless, for some reason, the first one was removed, and if so, why, and by who, was it removed.
https://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/crimecourtscalamity/2020/10/07/real-or-fake-cops-show-interpol-notice-for-boss-red-bull/