Kamala Harris, once a vocal critic of the border wall during Donald Trump’s presidency, now pledges to allocate hundreds of millions of dollars to extend the barrier along the southern border if elected president. This shift comes as Harris embraces a more aggressive immigration policy, a significant departure from her previous liberal positions on issues such as Medicare for All and fracking, which her campaign now opposes.

 

Harris’ campaign appears to be adapting to the pressure of Trump’s repeated attacks on her stance on border security. While Harris now supports measures for the wall, she maintains key differences with Trump, particularly opposing family separation policies and mass deportation plans. In her recent speech at the Democratic National Convention, Harris voiced her intention to sign the bipartisan border security bill, a piece of legislation that Trump had previously blocked due to concerns it would politically benefit Democrats in the upcoming election.

 

The bill, negotiated by Senators James Lankford (R-Okla.) and Chris Murphy (D-Conn.), mandates that hundreds of millions of unspent funds be used to continue the construction of the border wall. Lankford remarked that the bill carries forward the standards set during the Trump administration regarding the structure’s height and location. "It requires the Trump border wall," Lankford told Axios, clarifying that the bill specifies where and how the wall must be built. The legislation’s estimated cost for continuing the wall stands at $650 million, a significant reduction from the $18 billion that Trump originally requested in 2018.

 

However, Harris’ camp argues that this legislation is not a full endorsement of Trump's wall and highlights that it involves much more than just wall funding. Her advisers pointed out that the bill does not allocate new money for the wall but merely extends the timeline for using funds appropriated during Trump's presidency, albeit with new restrictions to ensure these funds are used strictly for barriers. Additionally, the bill includes provisions to address the overloaded immigration system, such as increasing funding for asylum lawyers and judges, and grants the president the authority to close the border if more than 5,000 migrants cross in a single day.

 

This is a sharp contrast from Harris’ earlier stance. When she first ran for president in 2019, she condemned Trump’s wall as a "medieval vanity project" and consistently opposed any funding for its construction. In a 2020 Facebook post, Harris declared, "Trump's border wall is a complete waste of taxpayer money and won't make us any safer." Earlier, in 2017, shortly after joining the Senate, she called the wall a "stupid use of money" and vowed to block any efforts to fund it.

 

Harris' recent support of the bipartisan border security bill has raised eyebrows, even among some of her political colleagues. Senator Lankford expressed surprise at Harris' full embrace of the bill, noting that she had not participated in the negotiations. "We never saw any vice president staff here," Lankford remarked. "I know she's talking about it now, but she wasn't talking about it at all before." Meanwhile, Senator Murphy described the bill as "aggressive," noting that it introduces new tools to manage the border but also emphasized that it does not stray from the nation's core values.

 

Although President Biden had criticized Trump for killing the compromise bill, some Democrats, including Senator Alex Padilla of California, took issue with the conservative nature of the policies within it. Padilla opposed the bill, stating that it "fails to provide relief for a single Dreamer, a single farmworker, a single essential worker or long-term resident."

 

Harris has positioned herself as a hardliner on immigration in her campaign ads, showcasing her time as California's attorney general and highlighting her support for increasing the number of Border Patrol agents. These moves come as Trump’s campaign continues to attack her on the administration’s struggles to handle surges of migrants at the southern border.

 

Harris' evolving stance on immigration reflects how the political conversation around border security has shifted in recent years, largely influenced by Trump’s presidency. Her willingness to support aspects of the border wall is a marked departure from her earlier rhetoric, illustrating the pressures and complexities of immigration policy in contemporary American politics.

 

Based on a report from: AXIOS 2024-09-28

 

 

 

Good!get the bipartisan border bill codified and 650 million in more barriers to me the main thing is get the original bill codified and signed!

 Harris shows her deperation having to Steal Trump's vote wining stance on immigration 

Tough border policy—yeah, right.

Too bad she didnt do it the last four years, she was tasked with it and failed. A lot of illegal immigrants and more crime now are the result. The fake news doesnt cover it but many americans lives have been impacted, alot of them democrats who will now be voting for trump

1 hour ago, Tug said:

Good!get the bipartisan border bill codified and 650 million in more barriers to me the main thing is get the original bill codified and signed!

Two big lies told here.  One is she is shifting.  No she isn't.  She will say anything to win the election.  She was with Biden letting up to 20 million illegals into the US.  She was the border Czar but never went to the border and lied repeatedly that the border was secure.   This Bipartisan bill you talk about is a phony.  The bill may have called for border agents but the agents were only going to be paper pushers to process even more illegals.  You can not believe anything the Democrats and the media say to you.  Such a shame you have not learned this.  Build the wall and have the border secured as Trump could have with enough money to build the wall.  So sad some people actually believe what you post.

37 minutes ago, mdr224 said:

Too bad she didnt do it the last four years

That's pretty much the question I ask about everything she spruiks.

18 minutes ago, wombat said:

Too bad she didnt do it the last four years

She did what VICE presidents are supposed to do.  Please list all of Mike Pence's accomplishments. 

11 minutes ago, amexpat said:

She did what VICE presidents are supposed to do.  Please list all of Mike Pence's accomplishments. 

Under the democrats leadership, the country is now less safe and way more expensive than four years ago. The insanity will not come to pass, something needs to change

1 hour ago, thaipo7 said:

Two big lies told here.  One is she is shifting.  No she isn't.  She will say anything to win the election.  She was with Biden letting up to 20 million illegals into the US.  She was the border Czar but never went to the border and lied repeatedly that the border was secure.   This Bipartisan bill you talk about is a phony.  The bill may have called for border agents but the agents were only going to be paper pushers to process even more illegals.  You can not believe anything the Democrats and the media say to you.  Such a shame you have not learned this.  Build the wall and have the border secured as Trump could have with enough money to build the wall.  So sad some people actually believe what you post.

Lie#1 there was never a border czar that’s a magga lie #2 it is leagle to request asylum as the law is written the bipartisan border bill provides for 1500 direct border patrol agents + judges and case workers to clear the backlog of asylum seekers.i am dumbfounded that anyone cannot see what trump is up to and what an abysmal president he was….thaipo presidential scholars folks that study thease things have adjudged trump as the worst president in our history that’s a sad fact.trump killed the bill because he needs something to campaign on no more no less.

8 minutes ago, Tug said:

Lie#1 there was never a border czar that’s a magga lie #2 it is leagle to request asylum as the law is written the bipartisan border bill provides for 1500 direct border patrol agents + judges and case workers to clear the backlog of asylum seekers.i am dumbfounded that anyone cannot see what trump is up to and what an abysmal president he was….thaipo presidential scholars folks that study thease things have adjudged trump as the worst president in our history that’s a sad fact.trump killed the bill because he needs something to campaign on no more no less.

You are increasingly unencumbered by reality. 

And of course it doesn't matter that she wants to keep them out, she can say that because she is on the left. I guess Obama was also, but some of his policies were also a bit right, and yes he also wanted to build walls.

8 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

You are increasingly unencumbered by reality. 

 

That's why Harris uses that chestnut so often.  There is no chance anyone would vote for her if they looked at what has happened in her past.  In California and in the White House.  There's a trail of wreckage she wants to be unburdened from.

 

3 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

That's why Harris uses that chestnut so often.  There is no chance anyone would vote for her if they looked at what has happened in her past.  In California and in the White House.  There's a trail of wreckage she wants to be unburdened from.

 

She shows up for a photo op by a wall she would demolish and her fish belly white VP would set up a ladder factory next to. I would love to see any member of this forum climb a border wall in that heat with a ladder and propel down the other side. Anybody that doesn't understand that is a barrier to entry is a moron. Can you imagine Tug or JT going up the ladder while the cartel pushes them over to freedom?

Edited September 28, 20241 yr by Cryingdick

4 hours ago, Social Media said:

Kamala Harris, once a vocal critic of the border wall during Donald Trump’s presidency, now pledges to allocate hundreds of millions of dollars to extend the barrier along the southern border if elected president. This shift comes as Harris embraces a more aggressive immigration policy, a significant departure from her previous liberal positions on issues such as Medicare for All and fracking, which her campaign now oppose

I love how the news makes this into such a good thing for Harris. When really it just shows how un-opinionated she is and that she has no real stance on any topic. If she changes her mind just to appease a certain subject, who is to say she will not change it again once elected. This is one scary type of person to have in the White House. God Help America

She said nothing about the women and girls raped and murdered. "Donal Trump ripped babies from the arms of mothjers". At least he knew where they were.

 

Where are the 250,000 missing children. In brothels in Queens?

 

She is a disgrace to humanity as are all the leftists that seek to destoy our country.

 

Note to Joe Biden and Gia Raimondo. You want to squash me like a bug? You want to eradicate me.? Come and get some as they say, I'll be waiting

nuff said

 

2 hours ago, Tug said:

Lie#1 there was never a border czar that’s a magga lie #2 it is leagle to request asylum as the law is written the bipartisan border bill provides for 1500 direct border patrol agents + judges and case workers to clear the backlog of asylum seekers.i am dumbfounded that anyone cannot see what trump is up to and what an abysmal president he was….thaipo presidential scholars folks that study thease things have adjudged trump as the worst president in our history that’s a sad fact.trump killed the bill because he needs something to campaign on no more no less.

Rubbish from start to finish.

2 hours ago, Tug said:

Lie#1 there was never a border czar that’s a magga lie #2 it is leagle to request asylum as the law is written the bipartisan border bill provides for 1500 direct border patrol agents + judges and case workers to clear the backlog of asylum seekers.

 

You mean that bill that allowed for 5,000 illegals to enter every day before it required any border action at all? 

 

The one that proposed hiring thousands of agents and judges for the express purpose of letting them in faster?

 

The one that was totally unnecessary if Biden had just used the executive power that Trump used quite successfully, and Biden rescinded in his first week?

 

Is that the one you mean?  That DOA load of crap?  

 

1 hour ago, Cryingdick said:

She shows up for a photo op by a wall she would demolish and her fish belly white VP would set up a ladder factory next to. I would love to see any member of this forum climb a border wall in that heat with a ladder and propel down the other side. Anybody that doesn't understand that is a barrier to entry is a moron. Can you imagine Tug or JT going up the ladder while the cartel pushes them over to freedom?

Well did you watch it?I did concise factual solutions orientated for real solutions.not as exciting as lying about immigrants eating pets or golden sneakers cartoon nfts nope no lies just stating the problems and finding the solutions……..no prisoners sent to invade like trumps hero actually does and trump says its brilliant…..nope she talked about her and our teams experience putting these cartel members behind bars……getting more equipment to indirect the fentanyl smugglers….

5 hours ago, Social Media said:

 

Kamala Harris, once a vocal critic of the border wall during Donald Trump’s presidency, now pledges to allocate hundreds of millions of dollars to extend the barrier along the southern border if elected president. This shift comes as Harris embraces a more aggressive immigration policy, a significant departure from her previous liberal positions on issues such as Medicare for All and fracking, which her campaign now opposes.

 

Harris’ campaign appears to be adapting to the pressure of Trump’s repeated attacks on her stance on border security. While Harris now supports measures for the wall, she maintains key differences with Trump, particularly opposing family separation policies and mass deportation plans. In her recent speech at the Democratic National Convention, Harris voiced her intention to sign the bipartisan border security bill, a piece of legislation that Trump had previously blocked due to concerns it would politically benefit Democrats in the upcoming election.

 

The bill, negotiated by Senators James Lankford (R-Okla.) and Chris Murphy (D-Conn.), mandates that hundreds of millions of unspent funds be used to continue the construction of the border wall. Lankford remarked that the bill carries forward the standards set during the Trump administration regarding the structure’s height and location. "It requires the Trump border wall," Lankford told Axios, clarifying that the bill specifies where and how the wall must be built. The legislation’s estimated cost for continuing the wall stands at $650 million, a significant reduction from the $18 billion that Trump originally requested in 2018.

 

 

However, Harris’ camp argues that this legislation is not a full endorsement of Trump's wall and highlights that it involves much more than just wall funding. Her advisers pointed out that the bill does not allocate new money for the wall but merely extends the timeline for using funds appropriated during Trump's presidency, albeit with new restrictions to ensure these funds are used strictly for barriers. Additionally, the bill includes provisions to address the overloaded immigration system, such as increasing funding for asylum lawyers and judges, and grants the president the authority to close the border if more than 5,000 migrants cross in a single day.

 

This is a sharp contrast from Harris’ earlier stance. When she first ran for president in 2019, she condemned Trump’s wall as a "medieval vanity project" and consistently opposed any funding for its construction. In a 2020 Facebook post, Harris declared, "Trump's border wall is a complete waste of taxpayer money and won't make us any safer." Earlier, in 2017, shortly after joining the Senate, she called the wall a "stupid use of money" and vowed to block any efforts to fund it.

 

Harris' recent support of the bipartisan border security bill has raised eyebrows, even among some of her political colleagues. Senator Lankford expressed surprise at Harris' full embrace of the bill, noting that she had not participated in the negotiations. "We never saw any vice president staff here," Lankford remarked. "I know she's talking about it now, but she wasn't talking about it at all before." Meanwhile, Senator Murphy described the bill as "aggressive," noting that it introduces new tools to manage the border but also emphasized that it does not stray from the nation's core values.

 

Although President Biden had criticized Trump for killing the compromise bill, some Democrats, including Senator Alex Padilla of California, took issue with the conservative nature of the policies within it. Padilla opposed the bill, stating that it "fails to provide relief for a single Dreamer, a single farmworker, a single essential worker or long-term resident."

 

Harris has positioned herself as a hardliner on immigration in her campaign ads, showcasing her time as California's attorney general and highlighting her support for increasing the number of Border Patrol agents. These moves come as Trump’s campaign continues to attack her on the administration’s struggles to handle surges of migrants at the southern border.

 

Harris' evolving stance on immigration reflects how the political conversation around border security has shifted in recent years, largely influenced by Trump’s presidency. Her willingness to support aspects of the border wall is a marked departure from her earlier rhetoric, illustrating the pressures and complexities of immigration policy in contemporary American politics.

 

Based on a report from: AXIOS 2024-09-28

 

 

 

Sounds like the typical politician shift in policy, and never to be honest in any way except to thine ownself  in order to possibly get more money from a different source.    Can't trust them at all IMHO.

1 minute ago, Tug said:

Well did you watch it?I did concise factual solutions orientated for real solutions.not as exciting as lying about immigrants eating pets or golden sneakers cartoon nfts nope no lies just stating the problems and finding the solutions……..no prisoners sent to invade like trumps hero actually does and trump says its brilliant…..nope she talked about her and our teams experience putting these cartel members behind bars……getting more equipment to indirect the fentanyl smugglers….

I watched it. So therefore, enlighten me on

 

What "factual solutions oriented for real solutions" did she set forth?

 

Why hasnt she closed the border? Why has she let rapists and murderers and terrorists flood our streets?

 

You will answer with more lies and bot word salad.

 

You spend more time obsessing over dogs and cats than RAPED AND MURDERED CHILDREN.

 

 

I want to hear Harris tell us it was wrong for Biden to reverse Trump's border policies. 

 

 

During his first day in office, Biden unveiled the U.S. Citizenship Act of 2021 and reversed many of Trump's policies on immigration, such as halting the construction of the Mexican border wall, travel ban, and signed an executive order to reaffirm protections for DACA recipients.^[1][2][3] The Biden administration and Department of Homeland Security, under leadership of Alejandro Mayorkas, reined in deportation practices of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), prioritizing national security and violent crime concerns over petty and nonviolent offenses.^[4]

3 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

I want to hear Harris tell us it was wrong for Biden to reverse Trump's border policies. 

 

 

During his first day in office, Biden unveiled the U.S. Citizenship Act of 2021 and reversed many of Trump's policies on immigration, such as halting the construction of the Mexican border wall, travel ban, and signed an executive order to reaffirm protections for DACA recipients.^[1][2][3] The Biden administration and Department of Homeland Security, under leadership of Alejandro Mayorkas, reined in deportation practices of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), prioritizing national security and violent crime concerns over petty and nonviolent offenses.^[4]

The real conundrum of the harris campaign, convincing us that she will fix the problems that biden created without telling us that theres a problem

49 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

I watched it. So therefore, enlighten me on

 

What "factual solutions oriented for real solutions" did she set forth?

 

Why hasnt she closed the border? Why has she let rapists and murderers and terrorists flood our streets?

 

You will answer with more lies and bot word salad.

 

You spend more time obsessing over dogs and cats than RAPED AND MURDERED CHILDREN.

 

 

Ask trump why he killed the border bill ehh as far as the rapists and murders how should I know I just live on the border never see them most likely is because 99% of the asylum seekers arnt criminals like trump.

2 minutes ago, Tug said:

Ask trump why he killed the border bill ehh as far as the rapists and murders how should I know I just live on the border never see them most likely is because 99% of the asylum seekers arnt criminals like trump.

Tell us how the border bill would have stopped anything. You wont, you cant, it wouldnt.

 

Did you see the latest Border Patrol stats: 500,000 criminals released into our streets.

 

Every spec of inarticulate bullsh*t you botspew on these topics is best illustrated by your above answer on the Border. You lie, she lies and Americans die.  

5 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Tell us how the border bill would have stopped anything. You wont, you cant, it wouldnt.

 

Did you see the latest Border Patrol stats: 500,000 criminals released into our streets.

 

Every spec of inarticulate bullsh*t you botspew on these topics is best illustrated by your above answer on the Border. You lie, she lies and Americans die.  

 

 

Even if that were the case.....why block it???

 

 

Every person and his dog knows why......Trump........ like all wanna be dictators needs an enemy at the border so the hard of thinking can have there attention focussed on that whilst he milks the country dry and stays out of jail.

 

He couldn't give a monkey's about legal or illegal immigration.

1 minute ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

Even if that were the case.....why block it???

 

 

Every person and his dog knows why......Trump........ like all wanna be dictators needs an enemy at the border so the hard of thinking can have there attention focussed on that whilst he milks the country dry and stays out of jail.

 

He couldn't give a monkey's about legal or illegal immigration.

Guess you dont know what was in the Bill, bot. If you are American, enjoy the screams of raped children that your ilk have allowed and continue to support.

 

 

Kamal had 44 months to secure the southern border but did exactly the opposite allowing millions of unvetted illegal immigrants into the country along with 1.9M got-aways and she expects Americans to believe her fake concern now? Only her gullible brainwashed sheep followers beleive this cackling moron. Bidens regime and the border czar Kamala have unleashed and created the greatest national security and humanitarian sex/child trafficking crisis in American history! She can fix nothing, she's all talk, a consummate low achieving FRAUD.

 

 

7 minutes ago, illisdean said:

Kamal had 44 months to secure the southern border but did exactly the opposite allowing millions of unvetted illegal immigrants into the country along with 1.9M got-aways and she expects Americans to believe her fake concern now? Only her gullible brainwashed sheep followers beleive this cackling moron. Bidens regime and the border czar Kamala have unleashed and created the greatest national security and humanitarian sex/child trafficking crisis in American history! She can fix nothing, she's all talk, a consummate low achieving FRAUD.

 

 

Waiting for someone to point out that source is fake and counter with an msnbc link