In an era where technology has blurred the lines between the impossible and the possible, the creation of firearms at home is no longer a far-fetched concept. Today’s sentencing of a 20-year-old neo-Nazi in the UK is a grim reminder of the terrifying reality that 3D-printed firearms, like the FGC-9, have become.

 

 

Jack Robinson, who was found to be at an "advanced stage" of building his own semi-automatic rifle, was sentenced to six-and-a-half years in prison. His case highlights the growing concern about the accessibility of such deadly weapons, which are crafted with simple, everyday materials and 3D printers.

 

 

When Robinson was arrested at 18, police uncovered more than just his half-completed gun. His home in Portsmouth housed a disturbing collection of military-style gear, stab vests, and memorabilia from Nazi Germany. More troubling, however, were the 500 documents Robinson had downloaded, which contained instructions for explosives, weapons, and 3D-printed guns, as well as a vast array of white supremacist propaganda.

 

 

His online activity, operating under usernames such as “kill all Jews,” revealed the depth of his dangerous ideology. As prosecutor Naomi Parsons stated, it was purely "fortuitous that police found the gun before it had been completed and assembled.”

 

The rise of 3D-printed firearms, particularly the FGC-9, has posed new challenges for law enforcement in the UK and globally. Standing for "F--- Gun Control" and using 9mm ammunition, the FGC-9 can be entirely constructed at home using unregulated parts and everyday materials. This design has made the gun a favorite among criminals and extremists alike.

 

 

The FGC-9, which first appeared in 2020, is unlike earlier homemade guns because it is reliable, easy to produce, and doesn't require commercially manufactured components like barrels. As a result, it has rapidly spread across continents, finding its way into the hands of terrorists, insurgents, and organized criminals.

 

 

The FGC-9's creator, known by the pseudonym JStark, crafted the weapon not only for practical use but also as a symbol of rebellion against gun control laws. His aim was to inspire people worldwide to make weapons at home, defying what he called “tyrannical” governments. JStark's words, “We together can defeat for good the infringement that is taking place on our natural-born right to bear arms,” reflect the ideological motivation behind the weapon. While the FGC-9 has gained a following in Europe, its influence is being felt in Britain, where authorities now prosecute individuals for simply possessing its instruction manual.

 

Robinson’s case is one of more than a dozen in the UK over the past four years involving individuals either attempting to build the FGC-9 or possessing its manual. While some aspired to commit mass shootings, others saw the weapon as a business opportunity, planning to sell it to gangs. The FGC-9 has also become particularly popular among far-right extremists. In Robinson’s trial, the judge ruled that he was a dangerous offender, with his interest in firearms tied to his extremist ideology. “I find you were motivated by terrorism,” said Mrs Justice McGowan, who cited the material found in Robinson’s possession that glorified the killing of Jews.

 

The FGC-9 is not just a weapon for neo-Nazis or the far-right, however. Recent cases have shown that jihadists, too, have begun to take an interest in the gun. In October, a Londoner named Abdiwahid Abdulkadir Mohamed was convicted of six terror offenses for possessing the FGC-9 manual and other instructions for homemade weapons. This growing, cross-ideological appeal of the FGC-9 is deeply troubling for authorities around the world.

 

Though the number of 3D-printed firearms seized in the UK remains relatively low, the National Crime Agency has warned of the increasing threat posed by the technology. The agency is working with partners to suppress the availability of such weapons, but the detailed manuals and the ease of access to 3D printers make the fight against homemade firearms a daunting task.

 

As Dr. Rajan Basra, a researcher who has studied the FGC-9, puts it, “People can get involved in making the gun because they’re just looking to experiment. But with time, they become more familiar with the ideology behind the FGC-9 and may come to adopt that worldview.”

 

The case of Jack Robinson, like others before it, sheds light on the alarming accessibility and ideological underpinnings of the FGC-9. As technology continues to advance, the potential for homemade, high-powered firearms to disrupt societies grows. What once seemed like science fiction is now a dark, global reality.

 

Based on a report from the Daily Telegraph 2024-10-17

 

 

 

"We together can defeat for good the infringement that is taking place on our natural-born right to bear arms,”  Natural born right? In the UK? Internet meltdown. He thinks he's in the US. No mention of "natural born right" in the 2A I don't believe.  Didn't it stem from resistance to the English, as a defence measure, during the AWOI?

Edited October 17, 20241 yr by bradiston

Typical. They encourage the use of technology and then complain because it's used for things they don't like.

 

This must be especially troubling for the anti gun fanatics that want to disarm the population. If anyone can make one in their bedroom, their push to disarm the population is not going to work.

 

BTW, it's not going to be long before the ability to avoid detection on line becomes available to everyone, IMO.

1 hour ago, bradiston said:

"We together can defeat for good the infringement that is taking place on our natural-born right to bear arms,”  Natural born right? In the UK? Internet meltdown. He thinks he's in the US. No mention of "natural born right" in the 2A I don't believe.  Didn't it stem from resistance to the English, as a defence measure, during the AWOI?

 

The right is natural born.  It's the gub'ment that's limiting the right.

 

10 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

The right is natural born.  It's the gub'ment that's limiting the right.

 

Why have any laws then?

Looks like a POS. I bet its a tack driver LOL

This is not and more likely will not be the first time people have been arrested for building their own firearms.  

 

In the late 1980's and early 1990's, the government office I worked at had the ability to intercept radio teletype transmissions.   I routinely copied the Soviets Radio Tass, English language, transmissions that were broadcast from Cuba.  

 

I read multiple reports of Soviet citizens being arrested for manufacturing or possession of home built sub machine guns.   It was then and I think still, illegal for citizens to posses any semi auto for full auto firearm.   No 3D printers back then, just metal working mills and lathes.   

 

When tyrants disarm citizens, citizens will build arms.   

 

 

2 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Looks like a POS. I bet its a tack driver LOL

 

You just have to be able to hit the guy on the next barstool...

 

25 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

You just have to be able to hit the guy on the next barstool...

 

I wonder if it would even be that good LOL

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Typical. They encourage the use of technology and then complain because it's used for things they don't like.

 

This must be especially troubling for the anti gun fanatics that want to disarm the population. If anyone can make one in their bedroom, their push to disarm the population is not going to work.

 

BTW, it's not going to be long before the ability to avoid detection on line becomes available to everyone, IMO.

IMO = My words are baseless.

6 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Typical. They encourage the use of technology and then complain because it's used for things they don't like.

 

This must be especially troubling for the anti gun fanatics that want to disarm the population. If anyone can make one in their bedroom, their push to disarm the population is not going to work.

 

BTW, it's not going to be long before the ability to avoid detection on line becomes available to everyone, IMO.

What troubles you about an unarmed population? Most of the world is unarmed. If you're starving, drowning, dying of disease, what use is a gun? Only in the US is it becoming mandatory to carry a gun. Because your neighbour's got one. It's the only justification. If the population of America was disarmed, what do the NRA fear? What would be the outcome? Disaster for the weapons industry maybe. But they sell overseas mainly anyway. You think anarchy and chaos, looting and burning? Don't see much of that in Europe, for instance. China, India, Japan, much of South America, South Korea, Australia, NZ. Africa is completely overrun with arms. What a result. Death and destruction. The US is the odd man out.

Edited October 17, 20241 yr by bradiston

12 hours ago, radiochaser said:

This is not and more likely will not be the first time people have been arrested for building their own firearms.  

 

In the late 1980's and early 1990's, the government office I worked at had the ability to intercept radio teletype transmissions.   I routinely copied the Soviets Radio Tass, English language, transmissions that were broadcast from Cuba.  

 

I read multiple reports of Soviet citizens being arrested for manufacturing or possession of home built sub machine guns.   It was then and I think still, illegal for citizens to posses any semi auto for full auto firearm.   No 3D printers back then, just metal working mills and lathes.   

 

When tyrants disarm citizens, citizens will build arms.   

 

 

 

 

From what I have found on the internet, the FGC 9 is being built and used over there in South East Asia.   Myanmar to be specific. 

Neo nazi’s and far right, omg
 

Americans have the constitutional right, its protected under the second amendment ,to make & carry arms, Making arms has been a tradition.

 

When officials working on the government’s behalf start restricting rights of a citizens , thats a big problem .

 

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Edited October 17, 20241 yr by riclag

46 minutes ago, riclag said:

Neo nazi’s and far right, omg
 

Americans have the constitutional right, its protected under the second amendment ,to make & carry arms, Making arms has been a tradition.

 

When officials working on the government’s behalf start restricting rights of a citizens , thats a big problem .

 

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But why? Because you can? What's the big deal? Only a handful of countries in the world have a similar law. But the countries that don't, don't show any need for it. Most gun use is for suicide, not homicide. Who really needs a gun?

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_keep_and_bear_arms

 

2 hours ago, bradiston said:

But why? Because you can? What's the big deal? Only a handful of countries in the world have a similar law. But the countries that don't, don't show any need for it. Most gun use is for suicide, not homicide. Who really needs a gun?

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_keep_and_bear_arms

 

I needed one at least once.   I found out after a man broke into my house, which took him only about 5 seconds, that he broke into my house to kill me.   When I pointed a 1911, .45 ACP pistol at him, he decided he should be elsewhere.   

Only the door and doorway were harmed during that incident!

 

 

1 hour ago, radiochaser said:

I needed one at least once.   I found out after a man broke into my house, which took him only about 5 seconds, that he broke into my house to kill me.   When I pointed a 1911, .45 ACP pistol at him, he decided he should be elsewhere.   

Only the door and doorway were harmed during that incident!

 

 

Did you know him? Where else does this happen?

1 hour ago, radiochaser said:

I needed one at least once.   I found out after a man broke into my house, which took him only about 5 seconds, that he broke into my house to kill me.   When I pointed a 1911, .45 ACP pistol at him, he decided he should be elsewhere.   

Only the door and doorway were harmed during that incident!

 

 

1911s tend to make skells leave the area fast

1 hour ago, radiochaser said:

I needed one at least once.   I found out after a man broke into my house, which took him only about 5 seconds, that he broke into my house to kill me.   When I pointed a 1911, .45 ACP pistol at him, he decided he should be elsewhere.   

Only the door and doorway were harmed during that incident!

 

 

 

2 minutes ago, bradiston said:

Did you know him? Where else does this happen?

He was an aquaintance, a friend of someone else that I knew.    Somehow I offended him and he told his friend that he was going to kill me.   This happened in California.   I called the police (pre 911 era) and filed a complaint.   

The police wanted to know his last name and I did not know it.  I described where he lived and one cop said, oh, that's so and so, I know him!  Nothing ever happened from the complaint!

4 minutes ago, radiochaser said:

 

He was an aquaintance, a friend of someone else that I knew.    Somehow I offended him and he told his friend that he was going to kill me.   This happened in California.   I called the police (pre 911 era) and filed a complaint.   

The police wanted to know his last name and I did not know it.  I described where he lived and one cop said, oh, that's so and so, I know him!  Nothing ever happened from the complaint!

I'm just curious. Was he armed? How did he intend to kill you? Was he arrested for attempted murder? I guess it could happen anywhere. But still, arming a whole population on the off chance someone is going to try and kill you every once in a while. What are the chances?

3 hours ago, radiochaser said:

I needed one at least once.   I found out after a man broke into my house, which took him only about 5 seconds, that he broke into my house to kill me.   When I pointed a 1911, .45 ACP pistol at him, he decided he should be elsewhere.   

Only the door and doorway were harmed during that incident!

 

 

 

I rented a house in Casper Wyoming and soon after, the cops knocked on my door looking for a previous tenant.  I showed them my ID and my new rental contract and they thanked me and went away.  For months, I was getting door knocks at all hours looking to score some drugs.  I answered the door from my 2nd floor window with a handgun at the ready.  Very glad I had it, though I never had to flash it.

 

That's a statistic that nobody can track.  How many lives were saved because the bad guys either saw a gun, or were afraid that their intended victim had one.  I suspect it's a big number, but nobody tracks it if there's no shooting.

 

Edited October 18, 20241 yr by impulse

18 minutes ago, bradiston said:

I'm just curious. Was he armed? How did he intend to kill you? Was he arrested for attempted murder? I guess it could happen anywhere. But still, arming a whole population on the off chance someone is going to try and kill you every once in a while. What are the chances?

I did not see a weapon, I guess he was going to use those weapons that kills more people in the United States than rifles do ...  his hands and feet!

I did unholster a concealed firearm another time when I believed I was in danger of being attacked.  But I don't think the Rottweiler, that may have been the one attacking children and other dogs understood that I would have shot it, if it had approached closer than it did.  That happened in the state I currently live in, Pennsylvania.   Rumor had it the dog belonged to someone in the rural neighborhood.   I can't recall if the attacks stopped or if the police caught the dog.  

1 hour ago, radiochaser said:

I did not see a weapon, I guess he was going to use those weapons that kills more people in the United States than rifles do ...  his hands and feet!

I did unholster a concealed firearm another time when I believed I was in danger of being attacked.  But I don't think the Rottweiler, that may have been the one attacking children and other dogs understood that I would have shot it, if it had approached closer than it did.  That happened in the state I currently live in, Pennsylvania.   Rumor had it the dog belonged to someone in the rural neighborhood.   I can't recall if the attacks stopped or if the police caught the dog.  

I admire your restraint. Maybe it goes for the majority of Americans. Just owning a gun gives peace of mind. I don't know why it's become such a hot potato. I guess the mass shootings account for that. There are a lot in the US. 582 currently in the US this year.

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States_in_2024

 

The damage done by these incidents is enormous. Every one person  killed or wounded is known to maybe 100s if not 1000s of friends, family, colleagues. Every time it happens there are calls for increased controls, fiercely resisted by the gun lobby. You can't arm kids. You can't protect kids 24/7. If the victims had been armed and were able to get a shot off... But these are mostly surprise attacks. Nobody is prepared 24/7. Random killings. How can you arm against them? How many attackers have been "immobilised" by their intended victims? 2A being a constitutional matter there's no way an individual state could disarm it's populace. I imagine all hell would break loose if it tried! The US has inherited a deep distrust in federal government, which is where the right to bear arms originated, I believe. Memories of the British? Or? Is it still realistic to assume Washington will invade your state?

Edited October 18, 20241 yr by bradiston