British Man Found Shirtless and Agitated on Pattaya Roadside

[Bday Prang]

1 hour ago, scubascuba3 said:

let's start with those with criminal records

           What sort of criminal record is it that you are constantly bleating about,?  Any offence at all judging by the sanctimonious nature of your posts, 

           So that would presumably include, not paying ones fines eg  TV licence , or ,  allowing ones dog to foul the footpath, ? all banned from travelling for life?   Patently ridiculous,   And lets not forget that in the UK at least all but the most serious offences have a time limit regarding whether or not they are disclosed, 

           I'm not quite sure what you, in your infinite wisdom  have decided this guy is previously  "guilty" of  but  a minor drunk and disorderly offence or similar would not  be   disclosed after 5 years anyway

           You may have forgotten, but many people, especially younger ones tend to "let their hair down" when on holiday, The hot temperatures here along with the drinking culture in places like pattaya mean that inevitably some will go a bit to far, but the vast majority of them will never have been in trouble before,  Serious career criminals, with or without criminal records  do not generally behave in such an antisocial manner, preferring not to attract attention. 

            For those that do misbehave, the Thais are perfectly capable of dealing with themselves, "one way or the other"  and as we have seen many times,  they don't need "Mr Outraged" and "Mr holier than thou" from the "quality expat community"  to help them  sort things out 

            Places like Pattaya have always been a bit seamy ,and visiting there was always considered a bit of a walk on the wild side. for many that was part of the attraction, minor incidents like this are not uncommon but most people take it in their stride, shake their heads, or shrug their shoulders, maybe have a bit of a snigger and just get on with life.

            Its always been  like that , nothing has changed, just the way the media has started reporting things, anti british sentiment has been on the increase worldwide for years, started by our homegrown lefties and eagerly promoted by a left leaning media, looking for click bait,  The British are not behaving any differently than they ever have, its just more widely broadcast.

             Some "quality" ex-pats having moved here to retire  with their bar girl wives, eventually lose the rose coloured glasses and  realise its not really for them, must be quite a culture shock for  Ex teachers and the like after all.   perhaps they should consider  moving to  somewhere like Singapore where, with  their authoritative approach to law and order,  their  western expectations  are more likely to be met

            

[Bday Prang]

3 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

People wanting long stay visas can provide a home country criminal record check, we don't have to problem solve it here

Interesting use of the word "we"  !        you and your cronies won't be solving anything here  anytime soon. 

[Bday Prang]

1 hour ago, jacko45k said:

Perhaps he would be safer back home instead of wasting police time here. 

(Tongue in cheek!)

well he certainly wouldn't have to worry about the AN lynch mob, so I think you are right,  

[Bday Prang]

14 hours ago, BangkokReady said:

You want rid of tourists who come to Thailand to get wasted on drugs and alcohol?

Indeed he does,  I find the Idea of "banning" thousands of hedonistic holidaymakers, the likes of which have been coming here for over 30 years  to appease a few geriatric holier than thou expats  to be one of  the most ridiculous things I have ever heard. 

Surely the most sensible and practical solution for him and his ilk  would be for them to move,   

[Bday Prang]

20 hours ago, itsari said:

A hint of bigotry and racism in your reply 

Most of us on here? Very sad

What bigotry and racism have you "identified" in my post    which race have I offended or discriminated against? You do realise I am British right?  my criticism was aimed at the brit bashers their ethnicity is not known or  important and was not mentioned or referred to

Edited Saturday at 01:29 AM by Bday Prang

[scubascuba3]

7 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

it's none of your business what other foreigners do unless it affects you personally and just by posting negatives about them

Shady foreigners make the non shady ones look bad, so you are wrong it is everyone's business

[scubascuba3]

6 hours ago, Bday Prang said:

What sort of criminal record is it that you are constantly bleating about,? 

As I've told you before we don't have to problem solve it here, Immigration can decide, maybe you'd get deported

[fredwiggy]

14 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

Shady foreigners make the non shady ones look bad, so you are wrong it is everyone's business

Making negative comments about foreigners, coming from other foreigners, shows the locals if they can talk bad about themselves, they must all be pretty bad, because they figure we would show restraint. When someone does something wrong, and not to you, it's the policeman's job, not yours. Of course shady foreigners make others look bad, but pointing it out isn't your deal. You buy women, which in some ways is against the law, so that could make you a criminal also, depending on the circumstances.

[BruceWayne]

On 10/31/2024 at 9:12 AM, scubascuba3 said:

A criminal record check on entry would filter out a lot of these low life

 

Pattaya would be completely empty if you stopped anyone with a criminal record from entering.

 

Covid locksown period would look like NYE in comparison.

[scubascuba3]

41 minutes ago, BruceWayne said:

 

Pattaya would be completely empty if you stopped anyone with a criminal record from entering.

 

Covid locksown period would look like NYE in comparison.

It's not that bad, depends who you mix with 

[BruceWayne]

6 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

It's not that bad, depends who you mix with 

 

Mate, it's a cesspit but you can acclimatise over time I guess.

 

Not knocking it or saying it applies to everyone but Pattaya attracts the lowest forms of life.

 

“You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious.” - Obi Wan (1977)

[Patong2021]

17 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

let's start with those with criminal records

 

Ok, how would you do that. It is easy to criticize. Now try and provide a viable solution.

 

And remember you are demanding that Thailand perform a criminal record verification of all  visitors to Thailand. Thailand is projected to have 36 million visitors in 2024. How would Thailand verify all 36 million without causing entry delays and not requiring a processing center staffed by thousands while respecting  every international privacy regulation and obtaining access to the criminal records. You do know that access to such files does not even occur in most western countries don't you? Are you planning on microchipping people or setting up an international biometric tracking system?

[Patong2021]

18 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

People wanting long stay visas can provide a home country criminal record check, we don't have to problem solve it here

 

This would result in delays and additional expense. How would your solution ensure reliability of data? If Thailand does not have access to real time data, how would Thailand verify the document submitted?  People submit false documents on a daily basis.

 

The UK offers  a basic Disclosure and Barring Service (DBS) check to get a copy of your criminal record.  It costs £18. The check will only show convictions that are not ‘spent’, for example some types of caution will disappear after 3 months. It can take usually takes up to 14-30 days to receive a certificate. The US FBI offers a criminal record verification for  $18 and requires submission of a fingerprint card and up to 30 days processing. This is just one big hassle. People without criminal records won't put up with it as it shifts the  burden of proof to them. Your demand is not viable not cost effective.

 

 

 

 

 

[scubascuba3]

5 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

 

Ok, how would you do that. It is easy to criticize. Now try and provide a viable solution.

 

And remember you are demanding that Thailand perform a criminal record verification of all  visitors to Thailand. Thailand is projected to have 36 million visitors in 2024. How would Thailand verify all 36 million without causing entry delays and not requiring a processing center staffed by thousands while respecting  every international privacy regulation and obtaining access to the criminal records. You do know that access to such files does not even occur in most western countries don't you? Are you planning on microchipping people or setting up an international biometric tracking system?

Let me know what your criminal record is and I'll let you know if you can stay or not

[jacko45k]

22 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

Yes, but again, if it's negative comments, it still makes all foreigners look bad.

Comments can be both negative and positive, to remain on one side of that fence makes them either grumpy or worthless throw away vanilla ones. The phrase 'if you cannot say something good.....etc' has never made sense to me. 

[fredwiggy]

9 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

Comments can be both negative and positive, to remain on one side of that fence makes them either grumpy or worthless throw away vanilla ones. The phrase 'if you cannot say something good.....etc' has never made sense to me. 

Comments can be either way, but negative, especially coming from other foreigners, tells locals, "If they can bad mouth each other, they must not think highly of other foreigners, which lumps us together, as you know many prejudiced people do. Best not to comment at all. Let them make up their own minds.

[Patong2021]

5 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

Let me know what your criminal record is and I'll let you know if you can stay or not

 

This isn't about me. You are the one demanding that Thailand  verify visitor criminal records, but are unable to provide a viable process in which in can be done. Why keep demanding it if you know it is currently impossible to do?  Thailand could not verify foreign visitor criminal records without a time consuming request even if it wanted to.

[BigStar]

4 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

Comments can be either way, but negative, especially coming from other foreigners, tells locals, "If they can bad mouth each other, they must not think highly of other foreigners

 

No, simply means the normal good foreigners also don't think highly of the bad foreigners. Nor should they.

[fredwiggy]

11 minutes ago, BigStar said:

 

No, simply means the normal good foreigners also don't think highly of the bad foreigners. Nor should they.

Nothing wrong with seeing people as they are, but negative comments here never look good for all foreigners. Remember there are many locals who are already prejudiced against any foreigners. Adding fuel to any fire doesn't make things go well.

[saintdomingo]

The black socks bit intrigues me, where had he been drinking.?

I thought the socks 'n sandals brigade had disappeared a long time ago.

[saintdomingo]

On 11/1/2024 at 11:37 AM, itsari said:

A hint of bigotry and racism in your reply 

Most of us on here? Very sad

Well, many on here would be more accurate.

[Chris Daley]

What about all the Thai men that are shirtless and acting erratically near bus stops and roadsides?

[Bday Prang]

On 11/1/2024 at 1:44 PM, NoshowJones said:

If he was frightened of the police, maybe he had reason, I say maybe.

any body with any sense would be at least wary of the police , especially over here, 

[Bday Prang]

1 hour ago, BigStar said:

 

No, simply means the normal good foreigners also don't think highly of the bad foreigners. Nor should they.

                    Nah, that's not how things work in reality, the Thais pretty much tar us all with the same brush, as far as they are concerned we are all much the same and at best we are tolerated, nothing more. In their view , we fall into one of three groups,  bad farangs, those who have not yet been caught, and clueless short term tourists ripe for exploitation.

                   Its the standard attitude to foreigners the world over, call it racist or whatever you want, it is what it is and we all do it whether we admit to it or not.  They would have a field day if they saw all the infighting that goes on in this forum.  If they ever do decide to sort us all out there won't be a problem in instigating  the classic divide and rule technique

                   Now on the other hand consider the muslims in the UK as an alternative  example, whatever atrocities some of them commit, they never publicly attack each other, they stick together, the most we ever hear is a dignified silence from the "good" ones.         

                  Can you imagine an arabic speaking forum in the UK where muslims tear each other apart over the terrorist attacks committed by  some of their "brothers"?  I certainly can't.  and that is one of the reasons why they are a lot more comfortable in the UK, with their council houses, benefits and various laws in place to protect them than we will ever be here where we are entitled to absolutely  nothing, except discrimination

               .   There is a lot to be said , and gained, from presenting a united front , and nothing to be gained from in fighting.  The sooner the more sanctimonious members on here realise that, the better!

[Bday Prang]

1 hour ago, saintdomingo said:

Well, many on here would be more accurate.

well regarding threads like this, especially when brits are involved it is clearly "most" on here

[Bday Prang]

6 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

Comments can be either way, but negative, especially coming from other foreigners, tells locals, "If they can bad mouth each other, they must not think highly of other foreigners, which lumps us together, as you know many prejudiced people do. Best not to comment at all. Let them make up their own minds.

could not agree more, well said,  united we stand divided we fall,   why add fuel to the fire they will never respect us if we don't respect ourselves,  Posting negative comments about ourselves is never a good look, and for those who think it sets them apart, or earmarks them as "quality tourists / expats.   It does not

[fredwiggy]

1 hour ago, Chris Daley said:

What about all the Thai men that are shirtless and acting erratically near bus stops and roadsides?

Deport them back to grandma.

[georgegeorgia]

1 hour ago, saintdomingo said:

Well, many on here would be more accurate.

Many on here racist ??

Your wrong ,many on here are indeed not 

I think the only racist is you with your posts Saint Domingo , critical of the British monarchy 

Edited yesterday at 06:23 AM by georgegeorgia

[saintdomingo]

21 hours ago, BruceWayne said:

 

Mate, it's a cesspit but you can acclimatise over time I guess.

 

Not knocking it or saying it applies to everyone but Pattaya attracts the lowest forms of life.

 

“You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious.” - Obi Wan (1977)

Well there is a Catholic Church there.

[Bday Prang]

8 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

Let me know what your criminal record is and I'll let you know if you can stay or not

             Not sure who you think you are, or where your self perceived authority comes from.  But you appear to be suffering from the worst case of  "delusions of grandeur" I have ever seen.   

              I suggest you consider signing up as a tourist police volunteer  where you will meet other delusional individuals with attitude problems similar to your own

              I can only assume in your previous life you were a traffic warden or a police community support volunteer,  well its time to let go, here you are just the same as the rest of us,  despite what you may think of yourself