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Hi folks, i need some help with LTR Wealthy Pensioners application with non English documentation.

 

I applied already, uploaded necessary documents (bank statements for capital income and pension statement). Now they ask for additional documents:

 

"Please provide individual income tax return(2023)"

 

So I send them my tax return of 2023, with some explanation in English. Problem is: I'm German citizen and the German tax system is probably the most complicated in the world. And of course the tax office here communicates in German language. The document I sent them was 2 pages of small print, with a lot of numbers, income here, deduction here, deduction there. 99% of locals here would not understand it too.

 

So as I have expected, the officer doesn't accept the statement I sent them:

 

"The document must be in English and certified by translation institute"

 

This is almost impossible to do. Even if a well qualified translator would translate this, probably for hundreds of $, the result would be incomprehensible for anyone except a qualified tax consultant.

 

How did you handle this situation if you are not from an English speaking country?

 

Thanks for all replies.  

 

 

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On 11/11/2024 at 5:46 PM, Wagyu said:

Hi folks, i need some help with LTR Wealthy Pensioners application with non English documentation.

 

I applied already, uploaded necessary documents (bank statements for capital income and pension statement). Now they ask for additional documents:

 

"Please provide individual income tax return(2023)"

 

So I send them my tax return of 2023, with some explanation in English. Problem is: I'm German citizen and the German tax system is probably the most complicated in the world. And of course the tax office here communicates in German language. The document I sent them was 2 pages of small print, with a lot of numbers, income here, deduction here, deduction there. 99% of locals here would not understand it too.

 

So as I have expected, the officer doesn't accept the statement I sent them:

 

"The document must be in English and certified by translation institute"

 

This is almost impossible to do. Even if a well qualified translator would translate this, probably for hundreds of $, the result would be incomprehensible for anyone except a qualified tax consultant.

 

How did you handle this situation if you are not from an English speaking country?

 

Thanks for all replies.  

 

 

I think this is more of a "rules are rules" = "must be in Thai or English so I can check the box" thing - rather than them understanding it.  I would check with local translation folks and see what they quote.  Make sure THEY handle getting the translation certified - so if any issue with that part, they deal with the Thai govt office (MFA) who certifies it.

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On 11/11/2024 at 5:46 PM, Wagyu said:

Hi folks, i need some help with LTR Wealthy Pensioners application with non English documentation.

...

"Please provide individual income tax return(2023)"

...

"The document must be in English and certified by translation institute"

 

 

I agree with what Rob Browder noted.  Try to find an inexpensive translation service.

 

In my case (for Canada) I gave them my 2020 and 2021 tax returns.  But since I applied in Dec-2022/Jan-2023, BoI asked for my year 2022 tax return.  I ended up giving them three tax return years.

 

BoI also asked for proof of my pensions (one of which comes from Germany) ...  However the financial records for that is in German language - and fortunately my pension income (without that pension) already exceeded the pre-requisite amount.  So I sent BoI a revised PDF reply / upload of my income (without my German pension amount included) and I also followed it up with a phone call, noting I already exceeded the income amount (from other English language pension sources) and I did not need proof of my German pension to meet the required income level.

 

Also - as I went a self health insurance route, I had to prove equivalent of $100k US$ in a bank account anywhere in the world. I did not use my large bank account(s) in Germany to prove such as I would have to have such translated to English from German language - so I was fortunately able to use an account in Thailand that had the necessary amount.

 

If you do find a good translation service (for German to English) please advise as to the service you use - as in 3.5 years when my LTR comes up for renewal,  I may decide to use a German financial source - in which case I may have to go for a translation. 

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On 11/11/2024 at 5:46 PM, Wagyu said:

This is almost impossible to do. Even if a well qualified translator would translate this, probably for hundreds of $, the result would be incomprehensible for anyone except a qualified tax consultant.

 

How did you handle this situation if you are not from an English speaking country?

 

 

If possible - only include salient pages - and also, attach an explanation PDF (in English language) pointing out the salient information.

 

I believe what they want is proof of your global income.  So you need to specifically point to that number in the tax return, so that they can find such.

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