Not surprising that the BBC focuses on Gaza rather than British pensioners freezing to death due to Labour's removal of the fuel allowance. 

 

But then, what do you expect from Labour's propaganda machine?

24 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Circumvent the propaganda from both sides.

 

Give the world’s news reporters free access to report independently and directly from the camp.

 

Surely they’re not going to be in the way of any military action or betraying the location of troops while reporting from a refugee camp.

Hamas vs Israel. mmmmm only terrorist supporters would have to evaluate which is more credible.....

 

You don't think Hamas is embedded in the refugee camps? The ignorance to the reality in Gaza and what you know about it is shining.................lol

1 minute ago, JonnyF said:

Not surprising that the BBC focuses on Gaza rather than British pensioners freezing to death due to Labour's removal of the fuel allowance. 

 

But then, what do you expect from Labour's propaganda machine?

Said without an iota of introspection.

 

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Said without an iota of introspection.

 

 

Why would I need introspection? 😆

 

It wasn't me who lied to the public and put British pensioners at risk of hypothermia this winter, which according to their own research could kill 4000 of them.

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/winter-fuel-payment-cut-labour-deaths-b2609340.html

 

 

But no, let's ignore that. Doesn't fit their agenda. Let's deflect to the situation in Gaza and heap more blame on Israel. Typical of anti British, anti Semitic leftists at the BBC and Labour. 

 

13 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

Why would I need introspection? 😆

 

It wasn't me who lied to the public and put British pensioners at risk of hypothermia this winter, which according to their own research could kill 4000 of them.

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/winter-fuel-payment-cut-labour-deaths-b2609340.html

 

 

But no, let's ignore that. Doesn't fit their agenda. Let's deflect to the situation in Gaza and heap more blame on Israel. Typical of anti British, anti Semitic leftists at the BBC and Labour. 

 

Because, not surprising that you focus on the UK’s Labour Party and their winter fuel policy in a thread discussing (big hint here):

 

“Three Palestinian babies freeze to death in Gaza as winter sets in”

Stuck record comes to mind.

 

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

They are Palestinians, quit your gaslighting.

 

I’m also reading certain that if they turned up en masse in your home country seeking sanctuary you’d be demanding they be sent back to where they came from.

I wouldn't want them in my home country. They teach their children to hate Jews and seem to agree with their elected representatives. Hamas! I'm sure most were very happy on Oct. 7. No thanks. You can have them.

10 minutes ago, 300sd said:

I wouldn't want them in my home country. They teach their children to hate Jews and seem to agree with their elected representatives. Hamas! I'm sure most were very happy on Oct. 7. No thanks. You can have them.

I didn’t suggest they should go to your country.

 

They have a home in Palestine, I thought I had been clear on my of that matter.

Might be a good idea to ask/tell them to stop having babies until this trouble is over. Hey boys, keep your pants on!

29 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Because, not surprising that you focus on the UK’s Labour Party and their winter fuel policy in a thread discussing (big hint here):

 

“Three Palestinian babies freeze to death in Gaza as winter sets in”

Stuck record comes to mind.

 

 

Yes, like the BBC I can see why you prefer to focus on issues thousands of miles away from Britain. 

 

It makes for a wonderful deflection. 

Consumers of this and climate change are truly privileged

24 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I didn’t suggest they should go to your country.

 

They have a home in Palestine, I thought I had been clear on my of that matter.

But as has already been mentioned they do not all want to stay in Palestine. I was also clear on that. As for some going to that members home country, he may not have a say in that, just like in the UK where a blueprint for thousands of them to go has been drawn up.

On 12/27/2024 at 8:10 AM, Chomper Higgot said:

I would agree that both sides are operating a propaganda campaign but that isn’t a reason to disbelieve everything except what your preferred side has to say.

A new born child in a tent encampment dying of hyperthermia is not at all unbelievable and masks other obscenity of a civilian population being displaced into a camp by military attacks on their homes.

 

Anyway, it’s Christmas, don’t let me interrupt the flow of callous spleen venting.

 

 

 

 

   I disbelieve any info coming from the Palestinian side, because they have been shown to repartely and regularly lie . 

   Its just endless deception , lies and dishonesty , its just one elaborate fake story after another .

   Its just as cold in Northern Thailand as it is in Gaza and no babies freeze to death , and that's Thais living in bamboo huts similar to Gazians .

   Unfortunately  babies die the World over , every time Bono clicks his fingers , a Baby dies in Africa .

   How come you aren't too concerned about African babies dying every 10 seconds , but 3 babies in Gaza concerns you ?

29 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   I disbelieve any info coming from the Palestinian side, because they have been shown to repartely and regularly lie . 

   Its just endless deception , lies and dishonesty , its just one elaborate fake story after another .

   Its just as cold in Northern Thailand as it is in Gaza and no babies freeze to death , and that's Thais living in bamboo huts similar to Gazians .

   Unfortunately  babies die the World over , every time Bono clicks his fingers , a Baby dies in Africa .

   How come you aren't too concerned about African babies dying every 10 seconds , but 3 babies in Gaza concerns you ?

1. Nobody is forcing you to believe anyone.

 

2. Your callous disregard for these reported deaths is all your own.

 

3. The topic is not Bono or children dying in Africa.

 

 

No supporting evidence, no corroborating documentation. Only the claim of "Gaza Health Authority" spokesperson. 

In a place where women pump out babies like chickens lay eggs, there are  going to be infant deaths. People are often born with serious defects, a problem exacerbated when 40%+ of the population  is the product of inbreeding when cousins marry each other.

Just now, Patong2021 said:

No supporting evidence, no corroborating documentation. Only the claim of "Gaza Health Authority" spokesperson. 

In a place where women pump out babies like chickens lay eggs, there are  going to be infant deaths. People are often born with serious defects, a problem exacerbated when 40%+ of the population  is the product of inbreeding when cousins marry each other.

Exactly, anyone who takes the word of Hamas Health Authority at face value with no evidence to present other than hear say and then calls other people callous for not believing them is living in a Hamas propaganda bubble. 

 

Bit like that time they said 800 deaths including children in the Al-Ahli hospital in Gaza after an Israeli missile strike, they revised it down to 500, then the US and other European countries stepped in and revised it down to a couple of hundred at the most with some estimates at just 50. To top it all off, it was a Hamas rocket that misfired so their own terrorists did it. The death numbers put on official records did not of course reflect that fact, just more deaths to add no matter how or who killed them to the total.

On 12/27/2024 at 12:29 AM, NickyLouie said:

Have they freed the hostages yet?

 

Thats the rub!

Free the hostages and negotiate leaving Gaza for good!

Iran sounds nice!

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

1. Nobody is forcing you to believe anyone.

 

2. Your callous disregard for these reported deaths is all your own.

 

3. The topic is not Bono or children dying in Africa.

 

 

 

   I am saying that I do not believe them to be true , I do not believe that the babies froze to death  .

   5 million babies die every year  , why get overtly upset about a certain three ?

On 12/26/2024 at 8:55 PM, Chomper Higgot said:

Can you please provide a link to back up your claim that “It's the Palestinian leadership that are denying them access to shelter.”

 

 

The hostages by most accounts are still alive.  When I find out where they are being sheltered I'll let you know and you can suggest to Hamas they should swap them out with at risk infants.

2 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   I am saying that I do not believe them to be true , I do not believe that the babies froze to death  .

   5 million babies die every year  , why get overtly upset about a certain three ?

Like I said, nobody is forcing ing you to believe anyone.

 

The death of any baby is a tragedy.

 

Try spending less time on whataboutary and use the time she to reintroduce yourself to a little humanity.

2 hours ago, Oliver Holzerfilled said:

The hostages by most accounts are still alive.  When I find out where they are being sheltered I'll let you know and you can suggest to Hamas they should swap them out with at risk infants.

Please let me know in a thread I which the topic is the hostages.

 

 

On 12/26/2024 at 12:55 PM, koolkarl said:

Never heard of a rich muslim oil country doing anything to help their fellow muslims like taking them into their own country and give them the necessities of life.  Aljazeera has never said this for an obvious reason.

Why should they? The Palestinians are living on their OWN land. It's NOT part of israel.

Arab countries know from the Nakba that once Palestinians are forced off their OWN land, and become refugees in another country israel will never let them return to their OWN land.

 

AS for not giving them necessities of life it's all parked outside Gaza because the israelis won't let it in. You know that, don't you?

 

https://www.refugeesinternational.org/reports-briefs/scorecard-israel-fails-to-comply-with-u-s-humanitarian-access-demands-in-gaza/

 

Middle East & North Africa Palestine/Israel | Issue Brief

Scorecard: Israel Fails to Comply with U.S. Humanitarian Access Demands in Gaza

November 12, 2024

 

Executive Summary

Despite intensive diplomatic engagement by the United States and other countries, Israel has consistently failed to uphold its legal obligation to facilitate adequate humanitarian relief for civilians in Gaza during its ongoing military operation there. People are being starved in Gaza: Israeli military operations have denied them critical food aid and basic necessities, which has, in turn, caused conditions approaching famine for 800,000 Palestinian civilians across Gaza. Conditions are worst in Gaza’s north, where Israel launched a major operation in October that has cut off humanitarian aid to the area.

 

 

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Why should they? The Palestinians are living on their OWN land. It's NOT part of israel.

Arab countries know from the Nakba that once Palestinians are forced off their OWN land, and become refugees in another country israel will never let them return to their OWN land.

 

AS for not giving them necessities of life it's all parked outside Gaza because the israelis won't let it in. You know that, don't you?

 

https://www.refugeesinternational.org/reports-briefs/scorecard-israel-fails-to-comply-with-u-s-humanitarian-access-demands-in-gaza/

 

Middle East & North Africa Palestine/Israel | Issue Brief

Scorecard: Israel Fails to Comply with U.S. Humanitarian Access Demands in Gaza

November 12, 2024

 

Executive Summary

Despite intensive diplomatic engagement by the United States and other countries, Israel has consistently failed to uphold its legal obligation to facilitate adequate humanitarian relief for civilians in Gaza during its ongoing military operation there. People are being starved in Gaza: Israeli military operations have denied them critical food aid and basic necessities, which has, in turn, caused conditions approaching famine for 800,000 Palestinian civilians across Gaza. Conditions are worst in Gaza’s north, where Israel launched a major operation in October that has cut off humanitarian aid to the area.

 

 

So if we take it they are living on their own land, and not refugees in another country, why are there 30,000 "United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees" still there? You'd think the amount of money could be better spent by the gov there, oh wait, it was Hamas with different priorities than the actual living standards of their own citizens.

 

Anyway, now that Hamas propaganda has extended to making claims of frozen babies, why does someone not just ask them to release the remaining hostages and give up their machine guns so that this can all come to an end?

On 12/29/2024 at 1:09 PM, thaibeachlovers said:

Why should they? The Palestinians are living on their OWN land. It's NOT part of israel.

Arab countries know from the Nakba that once Palestinians are forced off their OWN land, and become refugees in another country israel will never let them return to their OWN land.

 

AS for not giving them necessities of life it's all parked outside Gaza because the israelis won't let it in. You know that, don't you?

 

https://www.refugeesinternational.org/reports-briefs/scorecard-israel-fails-to-comply-with-u-s-humanitarian-access-demands-in-gaza/

 

Middle East & North Africa Palestine/Israel | Issue Brief

Scorecard: Israel Fails to Comply with U.S. Humanitarian Access Demands in Gaza

November 12, 2024

 

Executive Summary

Despite intensive diplomatic engagement by the United States and other countries, Israel has consistently failed to uphold its legal obligation to facilitate adequate humanitarian relief for civilians in Gaza during its ongoing military operation there. People are being starved in Gaza: Israeli military operations have denied them critical food aid and basic necessities, which has, in turn, caused conditions approaching famine for 800,000 Palestinian civilians across Gaza. Conditions are worst in Gaza’s north, where Israel launched a major operation in October that has cut off humanitarian aid to the area.

 

 

No such thing as Palestinians and it isn't their own land legally.  They are muslims. Release all hostages and Hamas gives themselves up and life goes back to normal. You forgot this.