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Posted
4 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Given 70% of Americans are either overweight or obese, what's the BMI of your friend?

 

Check with any health professional as to the effect of body mass on longevity.

 

He was healthy. How the F would I know his BMI but bet it was under 25. He's pretty slim other than a fat pooch from sedentary lifestyle. He eats properly

 

100% COVID related.

 

He's coming out in Feb. I'd introduce you to him to wake you up out of your vaccine wetdream but he's super sensitive about discussing it.

 

He still believes the vaccine is for his betterment. I think he can't admit how he screwed up his life.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Highball said:

 Perhaps, but, I'm quite healthy. Never caught COVID as well. Nuts works 👍

No, you cannot see reality, your world revolves around YOU....

 

Why did Russia go the same way as the West regarding Covid, were they in with your 'Covid scam'....?  🤭

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Posted
Just now, transam said:

No, you cannot see reality, your world revolves around YOU....

 

Why did Russia go the same way as the West regarding Covid, were they in with your 'Covid scam'....?  🤭

 

Well, it is/was a legit ailment. Just a nasty flu that US paid china to mfg. The trouble is all the machinations around it all based on not only worthless vaccines but dangerous

 

Because bats lol 5555555

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Posted
3 minutes ago, Highball said:

 Perhaps, but, I'm quite healthy. Never caught COVID as well. Nuts works 👍

How do you know you never caught COVID? There were many cases of COVID with no symptoms.

 

Until you have a blood test which confirms you have no COVID antibodies in your system, you can't say you have not had COVID.

 

If testing did show antibodies, you should buy some lottery tickets. You're obviously lucky.

Posted
2 minutes ago, Highball said:

 

Well, it is/was a legit ailment. Just a nasty flu that US paid china to mfg. The trouble is all the machinations around it all based on not only worthless vaccines but dangerous

 

Because bats lol 5555555

Riiiiiiiiight..........:coffee1:

Posted
5 minutes ago, transam said:

SO WHAT, do you think the whole planet caught it...............🤣

No idea how to respond to this as I don't understand the question.

 

It was a virulent flu to be sure. I can't take care of the world, but I can take care of myself and my wife. That's my contribution to world health.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

How do you know you never caught COVID? There were many cases of COVID with no symptoms.

 

Until you have a blood test which confirms you have no COVID antibodies in your system, you can't say you have not had COVID.

 

If testing did show antibodies, you should buy some lottery tickets. You're obviously lucky.

 

Lol. Asymptomatic is as good as not having it. No symptoms.. you're not sick and if asymptomatic you're not contagious. I thought you were the medical guru lol.

 

This has been clearly understood for years

Posted
2 minutes ago, Highball said:

No idea how to respond to this as I don't understand the question.

 

It was a virulent flu to be sure. I can't take care of the world, but I can take care of myself and my wife. That's my contribution to world health.

By doing nothing, hoping for the best.......................🙄

Posted
Just now, Highball said:

It's been a pleasure gents, but my phone is at 5%

 

Have a great evening and don't forget to wear your mask 🥱

The mask wearing is over, time for you to catch up....😉

Posted
7 minutes ago, Highball said:

 

He was healthy. How the F would I know his BMI but bet it was under 25. He's pretty slim other than a fat pooch from sedentary lifestyle. He eats properly

 

100% COVID related.

 

He's coming out in Feb. I'd introduce you to him to wake you up out of your vaccine wetdream but he's super sensitive about discussing it.

 

He still believes the vaccine is for his betterment. I think he can't admit how he screwed up his life.

A sedentary lifestyle is quite enough to be unhealthy. I assume a fat pooch means a pot belly, which is unhealthy too.

Posted
3 minutes ago, Highball said:

 

Lol. Asymptomatic is as good as not having it. No symptoms.. you're not sick and if asymptomatic you're not contagious. I thought you were the medical guru lol.

 

This has been clearly understood for years

Asymptomatic is better than not having it. That's been understood for years too.

Posted
3 hours ago, KhunHeineken said:

Did you add up the time in all those phases?  It goes into the years, yet, MRNA vaccines were released for use on humans within 12 months. 

 

Studies for side effects take TIME.  Not all side effect reveal themselves in days, months, or even one year. 

 

I'm sure they did all the usual tests, but due to what was happening in the world, they didn't have the TIME to assess the vaccines for long term side effects. 

 

A prime example of this is Astra and the clotting, or do you deny Astra caused this side effect in many people? 

 

1-2 months plus several months plus several months......get a grip,

Posted
25 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

Barely a day goes by without you implying you have superior intelligence, yet you blindly believe and/or abide by figures and rules edicted and imposed by entities which have repeatedly been caught lying , omitting or distorting facts in favour of the pharmaceutical cartel.

That's not very smart, is it?

 

Truer words not posted today.

 

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Posted
15 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

1-2 months plus several months plus several months......get a grip,

He's correct. Proper trials run years and as I recall news stories at the time Pfizer didn't seriously trial at all.

 

 

Posted
7 minutes ago, Highball said:

He's correct. Proper trials run years and as I recall news stories at the time Pfizer didn't seriously trial at all.

 

 

 

So you CBA reading this bit....???

 

5. Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) / Approval

• After Phase 3 trials, Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna submitted data to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and other regulatory bodies (e.g., the European Medicines Agency or EMA) for Emergency Use Authorization (EUA).

• Regulatory agencies conducted a thorough review of all data, including:

• Efficacy data showing that the vaccine effectively prevented severe COVID-19 illness.

• Safety data showing that the vaccines had a favorable risk-benefit profile.

• After the review, both vaccines were granted EUA by the FDA in December 2020, allowing them to be administered to the public while ongoing monitoring continued.

Posted
1 hour ago, transam said:

I had the jabs, wore a musk, and never caught it, that I know of....

Very conclusive.  :smile:

 

1 hour ago, transam said:

Unlike some of the know-it-all's on here, who have a fear of needles or eat and drink crap that is more dangerous in the long term than the jab...

I've had more vaccines / boosters than most over my lifetime, and still continue to receive them. 

 

I just found it strange that people who get regular vaccinations / boosters, were called "anti vaxxers" when all they were was suspicious of MRNA, and held off.  

 

The term "anti vaxxer" for these people, in my opinion, was, and still is, inappropriate. 

 

How can you call them an "anti vaxxer" when they regularly receive vaccines, just not MRNA vaccines? 

Posted
3 hours ago, KhunHeineken said:

Did you add up the time in all those phases?  It goes into the years, yet, MRNA vaccines were released for use on humans within 12 months. 

 

Studies for side effects take TIME.  Not all side effect reveal themselves in days, months, or even one year. 

 

I'm sure they did all the usual tests, but due to what was happening in the world, they didn't have the TIME to assess the vaccines for long term side effects. 

 

A prime example of this is Astra and the clotting, or do you deny Astra caused this side effect in many people? 

That's why the safety monitoring exists. All vaccines are monitored for rare side effects after they have been released and the Covid 19 vaccines were the most heavily surveilled in history. That's how it was discovered that the J&J vaccines could cause thrombosis in rare instances (1 in 100000) and that the Astra Zeneca vaccine could cause blood clots (2 to 3 people in 100,000). It was also how the CDC identified myocarditis as a potential side effect of the the Pfizer (1.2 in 100,000) and Moderna (3 in 100,000) vaccines, particularly in young people between the ages of 15-24 (in most cases it healed quickly but there were some deaths).

 

In fact, a special program was set up to assess vaccine safety called the Global Covid Vaccine Safety Project, which looked for adverse events by analyzing the healthcare data of 90 million vaccinated individuals. It focused on identifying rare side effects. You can read all about it:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264410X24001270

Posted
1 minute ago, jaywalker2 said:

That's why the safety monitoring exists. All vaccines are monitored for rare side effects after they have been released and the Covid 19 vaccines were the most heavily surveilled in history. That's how it was discovered that the J&J vaccines could cause thrombosis in rare instances (1 in 100000) and that the Astra Zeneca vaccine could cause blood clots (2 to 3 people in 100,000). It was also how the CDC identified myocarditis as a potential side effect of the the Pfizer (1.2 in 100,000) and Moderna (3 in 100,000) vaccines, particularly in young people between the ages of 15-24 (in most cases it healed quickly but there were some deaths).

 

In fact, a special program was set up to assess vaccine safety called the Global Covid Vaccine Safety Project, which looked for adverse events by analyzing the healthcare data of 90 million vaccinated individuals. It focused on identifying rare side effects. You can read all about it:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264410X24001270

 

 

Nice try.....but these 'characters' aren't interested ......science and "facts'"are a total anathema to them.

 

If you could get some quack to present this on YouTube or TikTok they might just listen.

Posted
22 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

 

In this document, the FDA explains what gene therapy products are: “All products that mediate their effects by transcription and/or translation of transferred genetic material.”

 

The COVID-19 mRNA and adenovirus vaccines, which mediate their effects by inducing the body to translate mRNA genetic information into spike proteins, fall into this category, as explained in the published paper below.

 

mRNA: Vaccine or Gene Therapy? The Safety Regulatory Issues

https://www.mdpi.com/1422-0067/24/13/10514

 

This is what the CDC actually said about shedding:

 

FACT Vaccine shedding is the release or discharge of any of the vaccine components in or outside of the body and can only occur when a vaccine contains a live weakened version of the virus.

https://www.cdc.gov/covid/vaccines/myths-facts.html

 

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Posted
2 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

False.

 

Well after that detailed, well constructed argument supported with extensive evidence ......I give in......I concede.......no covid mRNA vaccines were ever tested.......they were developed in the lab and just banged out to the general public...fingers crossed.....5555

Posted
1 hour ago, Highball said:

Nuts works

Talking about "nuts."  It will be interesting to see if there will be a spike in birth defects in the next generation who received a MRNA vaccine, when their time comes for having children.

 

Of course, they could blame any spike in birth defects on climate change.  :smile:

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Posted
4 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

Well after that detailed, well constructed argument supported with extensive evidence ......I give in......I concede.......no covid mRNA vaccines were ever tested.......they were developed in the lab and just banged out to the general public...fingers crossed.....5555

If you read my post, I said they were tested, but were just not given the TIME to wait and properly assess any possible side effects. 

 

I see you didn't comment on Astra and blood clotting.  Obviously,  it doesn't fit your narrative.  

Posted
1 minute ago, KhunHeineken said:

If you read my post, I said they were tested, but were just not given the TIME to wait and properly assess any possible side effects. 

 

I see you didn't comment on Astra and blood clotting.  Obviously,  it doesn't fit your narrative.  

 

I see you didn't comment on the estimated 19.8 million deaths that were averted due to the implementation of the Covid19 vaccine programs. Obviously, it doesn't fit your narrative.

Posted
14 minutes ago, jaywalker2 said:

That's why the safety monitoring exists. All vaccines are monitored for rare side effects after they have been released

Do you think it would be better to monitor for side effects BEFORE they are released, just like every other 6 year in the making vaccine?  :cheesy:

 

16 minutes ago, jaywalker2 said:

That's how it was discovered that the J&J vaccines could cause thrombosis in rare instances (1 in 100000) and that the Astra Zeneca vaccine could cause blood clots (2 to 3 people in 100,000).

So, what's the solution after the fact?  Give the dead person's family some money, 10 years later?  Oh, that's right, can't do that.  The vaccine companies where give immunity from legal action.  That basically gave them an open license to do whatever they wanted. 

 

18 minutes ago, jaywalker2 said:

It was also how the CDC identified myocarditis as a potential side effect of the the Pfizer (1.2 in 100,000) and Moderna (3 in 100,000) vaccines, particularly in young people between the ages of 15-24 (in most cases it healed quickly but there were some deaths).

Just "some deaths."  Oh, ok.  "Some deaths" is fine.  Perhaps you can explain that to the families of the deceased. 

 

20 minutes ago, jaywalker2 said:

In fact, a special program was set up to assess vaccine safety called the Global Covid Vaccine Safety Project, which looked for adverse events by analyzing the healthcare data of 90 million vaccinated individuals. It focused on identifying rare side effects. You can read all about it:

As mentioned by other members, and what you allude to, release the vaccine, then look for side effects and deaths. Effectively, use the human population as a MRNA test study.  Not good, is it? 

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Posted
8 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

I see you didn't comment on the estimated 19.8 million deaths that were averted due to the implementation of the Covid19 vaccine programs. Obviously, it doesn't fit your narrative.

19.8 million in a global population of 8 billion.  That's impressive.  :cheesy:

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Posted
2 hours ago, transam said:

I mean your daily fixation with the subject..........😏

Now covid is near over, you go onto we're all going to die from the vax, which is hilarious......🤭

You have 15 posts in this thread.  It appears you are the one with the fixation.

 

Maybe there is a 12 step program for you.

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