DWP life certificate.

[OJAS]

1 hour ago, Muhendis said:

Yeah.

The guys on the front line have to do their bosses biding but it's the top DWP management who set the rules.

My "dumb" comment was really aimed at them. 

 

Equally true of HMPO in the case of the ridiculous rules which its top management has set on passport renewals from Thailand IMHO.

 

[hotandsticky]

On 1/31/2025 at 10:49 AM, nglodnig said:

AFAIK they don't - the UK embassy should be informed but I don't know if they pass it on. BUT if you don't send the form back coz you're dead this is a bit of a giveaway

 

 

DWP do receive information about death. 

 

They also receive it (or have access to it) if you return to Thailand having been in the UK and requested an increase to current levels. A friend returned to see a terminally ill relative so he advised DWP that he didn't know when he was returning. His first pension payment after arriving back in Thailand reverted to the previous level  -  that was before he got round to advising them.

[Badrabbit]

My life certificate was received in the UK recently cost 1,000bht for international ems express, not bothered about the 1k but in this day and age they must be able to do this via email. my two other pensions are done via an online form, completed and received within minutes maybe hours.

[nglodnig]

41 minutes ago, hotandsticky said:

DWP do receive information about death. 

 

Sorry but how are they going to hear about it? In the UK maybe - but the embassy here would have to notify them when they are informed (by the police presumably) and another poster submitted instructions that the UK embassy WASN'T going to do it -  it was the responsibility of the next of kin.

 

 

 

[hotandsticky]

3 hours ago, nglodnig said:

Sorry but how are they going to hear about it? In the UK maybe - but the embassy here would have to notify them when they are informed (by the police presumably) and another poster submitted instructions that the UK embassy WASN'T going to do it -  it was the responsibility of the next of kin.

 

 

 

 

 

Trust me, they do.

 

I have been involved (not directly!) in 30+ British deaths in Thailand. DWP knew before we advised them - infact we stopped bothering to advise them in the end as they were already on the case. I don't recall any of the deceased receiving more than one pension payment after the date of their death.

 

The requirement in Thailand is to obtain a release from the embassy before a body can be released from the hospital for cremation. In the event of the death being at home (ie not in hospital) the police must be informed within 24 hours..

[nglodnig]

1 hour ago, hotandsticky said:

Trust me, they do.

My apologies, I stand corrected - the link posted (https://www.gov.uk/guidance/what-to-do-after-a-british-person-dies-in-thailand)

Does NOT say it is your responsibility to inform DWP. 

 

Well not "you" - you're dead - but your next of kin one assumes 🙂 

[hotandsticky]

27 minutes ago, nglodnig said:

My apologies, I stand corrected - the link posted (https://www.gov.uk/guidance/what-to-do-after-a-british-person-dies-in-thailand)

Does NOT say it is your responsibility to inform DWP. 

 

Well not "you" - you're dead - but your next of kin one assumes 🙂 

 

 

Apology unnecessary.

 

This is actually a better link and references advising IPC.

 

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/what-to-do-after-a-british-person-dies-in-thailand#pensions-and-bereavement-support-payments

 

[billd766]

What a surprise.

 

On 1st February I received a request for a life certificate from the Ministry of Defence.

 

Today, 1 week later I got another, this time from the DWP wanting confirmation of the same details and checking to see that I am still alive.

 

The difference is that I can email the MoD with a scanned copy of the form but the DWP want their copy sent back by airmail.

 

I do however have 16 weeks from 06 January 2025 to return it by.

 

They also want to go paperless and tell me that I can download their app, open an account and do away with all the paperwork.

 

This is not much use as the app only works on a smart phone and not on my pc which is where I want it.

[Mutt Daeng]

7 hours ago, billd766 said:

They also want to go paperless and tell me that I can download their app, open an account and do away with all the paperwork.

@billd766 Can you elaborate on this statement please?

Are "they" the DWP who have this new smartphone App, or are you referring to the existing HMRC App which has been out for ages?