Marco Rubio Demands Apology from Zelensky After Heated Oval Office Clash

[sandyf]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

Americans both maga and decent ones are indeed going to pay dearly for what Trump has done.

Indeed.  The US population will come to regret the day they voted foe WW3.

[Jeff the Chef]

4 minutes ago, riclag said:

Next time you go to the police ,please dictate their safety procedures !

 

Dumb reply, totally off topic, well done.

[riclag]

3 hours ago, Screaming said:

Entitled Zelensky will come crawling back to Trump with his tail between his legs. Old senile sleepy Joe gave billions of the good U.S. taxpayers money to the Ukraine for nothing other than to kill and mutilate thousands of Ukrainians. Time for the gravy train to stop and put U.S. interests first.

Some of that money has never been accounted for.

 

[riclag]

3 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

Dumb reply, totally off topic, well done.

Comparing apples to apples

[Hakuna Matata]

5 hours ago, Social Media said:

However, Rubio argued that Zelensky was to blame, claiming that the Ukrainian leader’s behavior leading up to the meeting was unacceptable.

 

This is the end of Zelensky!

 

 

[Jeff the Chef]

4 minutes ago, riclag said:

Comparing apples to apples

 

Really, how so?

[Hakuna Matata]

5 minutes ago, riclag said:

Some of that money has never been accounted for.

 

Definitely a lot of kickbacks to Biden administration and Pentagon!

[SMIAI]

24 minutes ago, riclag said:

Z goes  to the bank( White House,Trump) looking for support! 
Z demands guarantees , dictates the demands to the bank(WH).

 

Z all ready met with the lawmakers and discussed the agreement , prior to

the WH.The ball is in Europe now,

kick it around.

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/02/28/politics/video/trump-zelensky-oval-office-lindsey-graham-ukraine-russia-collins-digvid

 

 

What is this nonsense? Just some story you made up?

What is under the link on which you would like me to click? Since I see the name Lindsey Graham and I already saw his ridiculously animated performance after the embarrassing antics of the Vance/Trump/Rubio disaster, you'll need to come up with something that has some credibility attached to it.

I don't know anything about Left and Right, but I know SPIN when I see it.

It was hard to watch. Have you seen an American president shouting and screaming and threatening in public? That's not statesmanlike. That's a thug and his minions.

They couldn't handle the truth and just lost it on the world stage. That's not diplomacy.

[Hakuna Matata]

1 hour ago, proton said:

Resignation would be better, he's holding up a peace deal and people are being killed because of it

 

Yes, I do agree with you!

[SMIAI]

5 minutes ago, Hakuna Matata said:

 

Definitely a lot of kickbacks to Biden administration and Pentagon!

 

Even if there was, do you imagine the same isn't occurring under the new mob?

[Hakuna Matata]

3 minutes ago, SMIAI said:

That's not diplomacy.

 

That is indeed Trump's Diplomacy, the new era in diplomacy!

 

Long live President Trump! Bravo.

[riclag]

2 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

Really, how so?

He was invited to the WH to sign a agreement not to negotiate & demand guarantees!

Those terms were already discussed with Graham & others prior.

[SMIAI]

5 hours ago, novacova said:

From an alternate universe…

Swalwell is an abject corrupt leftist idiot with no credibility. Zelenskyy proved himself an incapable failure whose in way over his head, a total amateur hour clown show he put on.

 

The obvious problem with your statement is that he wasn't running the show.

So if it was a clown show, it was the Trump administration that organised it. They lost control and embarrassed themselves.

Why on earth was Trump shouting and screaming about Hunter Biden when he is supposed to be negotiating an end to the war?

That shows that he is heavily biased towards one side. Painfully embarrassing to watch.

[SMIAI]

5 minutes ago, riclag said:

He was invited to the WH to sign a agreement not to negotiate & demand guarantees!

Those terms were already discussed with Graham & others prior.

 

I guess he caught them off-guard by speaking the truth 😊

[SMIAI]

7 minutes ago, Hakuna Matata said:

 

That is indeed Trump's Diplomacy, the new era in diplomacy!

 

Long live President Trump! Bravo.

 

Thuggishness personified. Bravo!

[riclag]

Just now, SMIAI said:

 

I guess he caught them off-guard by speaking the truth 😊

Thats your opinion !

Z met with Graham & other lawmakers and was told the guarantees come after, sign the agreement!

[Tug]

18 minutes ago, riclag said:

Thats your opinion !

Z met with Graham & other lawmakers and was told the guarantees come after, sign the agreement!

Zelenskyy ain’t stupid he knows trump is a thief just like Putin.trump is kicking a country when it’s down fighting for its existence I don’t know about you (I suspect I do btw) but as an American it makes me feel shame.trump is not known as the great betrayer for nothing,he earned that title by his deeds.

[SMIAI]

42 minutes ago, riclag said:

Thats your opinion !

Z met with Graham & other lawmakers and was told the guarantees come after, sign the agreement!

 

😊

Would you sign a contract under those conditions? Remove your bias and look at the situation neutrally. That's what I do.

Of course there is a certain amount of good faith. but when the other side has broken agreements at least twenty five times and you want to do the best for your country, it pays to cover all bases.

Remember that they gave up their nuclear weapons under a previous agreement. so now they sign away their mineral rights and soon enough, still have to put up with the same problems as before. The Americans just tell Putin to not bother their interests. 

Same thing in the Middle East. They protect their interests. That's business. But we are people. People are animals, wanting to live freely, not under occupation nor under constant threat. Ukraine wants security guarantees in exchange for the USA having access to their land. That sounds more than fair to me, if the Ukrainian people agree.

What do you see as unreasonable in that?

Instead they have some idiot in the room trying to belittle the president of another country for not wearing a suit.

That is the height of disrespect.

Imagine you are a Maori and wear traditional dress to negotiations and someone tells you to wear a suit.

Unacceptable behaviour on the American side.

[rough diamond]

2 hours ago, proton said:

Resignation would be better, he's holding up a peace deal and people are being killed because of it

I assume you are referring to Trump?

[riclag]

7 minutes ago, rough diamond said:

I assume you are referring to Trump?

Trump was offering  up Peace !Graham

who coddled Ukraine even said Z Needs to resign!

[riclag]

For Our members on the Political other side,

This administration is not For continuing War!  Get that through your heads ! Peace a cease fire was offered .

 

[SMIAI]

1 minute ago, riclag said:

Trump was offering  up Peace !Graham

who coddled Ukraine even said Z Needs to resign!

 

If the president of one of the countries involved, who has all of the information, unlike yourself, isn't happy to sign away rights without having some guarantees, then your "peace" claim has no basis.

On what basis the peace? That Russia won't do anything due to Americans mining there? 

Come on, let's see some intelligence/details from your side of the table, in so we can understand exactly what is being offered.

What exactly is the deal? So far it sounds like, sign away your mineral rights and perhaps 20% of your land and we will continue to give you weapons. But during the conversation it changed to, but if some of those minerals are on seized land, we'll have to talk to Putin about that and see how it goes.

That is really nonsense. I wouldn't sign away any rights on that basis. Would you?

It's simply a protection racket. We'll withdraw support and let Putin take all unless you sign away your mineral rights.

That's how it looks to me. A kind of extortion. That's our world I guess.

[SMIAI]

12 minutes ago, riclag said:

For Our members on the Political other side,

This administration is not For continuing War!  Get that through your heads ! Peace a cease fire was offered .

 

 

That's not true. He will continue to send weapons once the deal is signed. So where is the peace you describe?

Please use accomplished facts, rather than just making things up that you cannot support.

 

Who is on the political other side? What are your politics? That the strong dominate and control the weak?

I don't understand why people like you think that we are on opposite sides.

[pomchop]

26 minutes ago, riclag said:

Trump was offering  up Peace !Graham

who coddled Ukraine even said Z Needs to resign!

graham also said "count me out" on jan 7 day after the coup attempt....graham will say whatever he thinks will get him more power  and change it faster than  a fart disappears in the wind.  He is the ultimate hypocrite in congress which is saying a LOT in a congress full of sniveling cowards.

[rough diamond]

1 hour ago, Hakuna Matata said:

That is indeed Trump's Diplomacy, the new era in diplomacy!

If that is your idea of diplomacy then you are even more deranged than that orange idiot that is in the White House.

[tjintx]

6 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

In an alternative view:

 

Rep. Eric Swalwell, D-Calif., said he had "absolute admiration for President Zelenskyy" after the meeting.

"He went into the Oval Office and stood up to Russia’s best negotiators," 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/time-europe-step-contentious-trump-210650530.html

 

 

Mr. Fang Fang agrees!

[tjintx]

7 hours ago, Tug said:

Zelenskyy apologize for what?he did nothing wrong it’s trump and Vance that should be apologizing just wow as an American I feel deep shame for what happened it’s the Ukrainians that are dying defending their sovereignty….and Vance wants that PRESIDENT to grovel????the fact of the matter is in my opinion is they were trying to roll the Ukrainian nation…just disgusting 🤢 history is going to be very very unkind to those 2 and if Rubio had any shred of integrity he would resign and refuse to work for this president.

 

He muttered "bitch" in Russian several times when the Vice President was schooling him.

[vinny41]

24 minutes ago, SMIAI said:

 

That's not true. He will continue to send weapons once the deal is signed. So where is the peace you describe?

Please use accomplished facts, rather than just making things up that you cannot support.

 

Who is on the political other side? What are your politics? That the strong dominate and control the weak?

I don't understand why people like you think that we are on opposite sides.

US President Donald Trump has stated that Ukraine would keep receiving American weapons but expressed hope that these deliveries would not be as large, given his desire to end the war.

Details: When asked whether he planned to send more weapons to Ukraine if there is no peace, Trump said that the US aimed not to send many weapons but to end the war.

Quote from Trump: "The answer is yes. But hopefully we won't have to send much [weapons – ed.] because I'm looking forward to getting it done quickly."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-said-ukraine-continue-receiving-173713431.html

Sounds like no major shipments of weapons

[SMIAI]

1 minute ago, vinny41 said:

US President Donald Trump has stated that Ukraine would keep receiving American weapons but expressed hope that these deliveries would not be as large, given his desire to end the war.

Details: When asked whether he planned to send more weapons to Ukraine if there is no peace, Trump said that the US aimed not to send many weapons but to end the war.

Quote from Trump: "The answer is yes. But hopefully we won't have to send much [weapons – ed.] because I'm looking forward to getting it done quickly."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-said-ukraine-continue-receiving-173713431.html

Sounds like no major shipments of weapons

 

Indeed, I watched the whole meeting and heard what he said, but none of that means anything does it?

What they really want is to get those papers signed and then see how it goes after that.

We know that Trump is a chancer. Some things work out and some don't. Caveat emptor. Zelenskky is doing the right thing by being cautious and refusing to be shouted down, humiliated and tricked.

That's what they tried to do. His words to JD Vance were much the same, shouting doesn't make you right.

[Jeff the Chef]

1 hour ago, riclag said:

He was invited to the WH to sign a agreement not to negotiate & demand guarantees!

Those terms were already discussed with Graham & others prior.

 

Your story has touched my heart, now go away and think about the consequences for Ukraine if he had unconditionally signed said agreement.

You and your ilk might trust Putin but I'm sure not many others in the free World do.