Cryingdick Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 22 hours ago, CallumWK said: He's doing a great job at the stock market. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/live/stock-market-today-dow-sp-500-nasdaq-wipe-out-trump-led-gains-as-tariff-sell-off-continues-154218096.html US markets eliminated all of their post-election gains as stocks deepened their sell-off with fresh tariffs on Canada, Mexico, and China now officially in effect. Oh and his deputy s also doing great. People get idiotic when they start posting about the stock market and using charts. Tesla is doing terrible. It is only up 21,153.13% since it was listed. As far as Buffett isn't he one of the evil billionaires that steals the candy right out of your babies mouth? Libs sure are scitzo when they talk money. 2
Harrisfan Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 3 hours ago, fredwiggy said: Well, at least you're consistent. Wrong every time....... Gallup poll 2013 President Outstanding Above average Average Below average Poor No opinion Weighted average[57] Dwight D. Eisenhower 10% 39% 36% 2% 1% 12% 3.63 John F. Kennedy 18% 56% 19% 2% 1% 4% 3.92 Lyndon B. Johnson 4% 16% 46% 14% 8% 12% 2.93 Richard Nixon 2% 13% 27% 29% 23% 6% 2.38 Gerald Ford 2% 14% 56% 15% 5% 8% 2.92 Jimmy Carter 4% 19% 37% 20% 15% 6% 2.76 Ronald Reagan 19% 42% 27% 6% 4% 2% 3.67 George H. W. Bush 3% 24% 48% 12% 10% 2% 2.98 Bill Clinton 11% 44% 29% 9% 6% 1% 3.45 George W. Bush 3% 18% 36% 20% 23% 1% 2.58 Barack Obama 6% 22% 31% 18% 22% 1% 2.72 2014 Quinnipiac poll A Quinnipiac University poll taken June 24–30, 2014, asked 1,446 American registered voters who they believed were the best and worst presidents since World War II.[58] Best president since World War II: Ronald Reagan (35%) Bill Clinton (18%) John F. Kennedy (15%) Barack Obama (8%) Dwight Eisenhower (5%) Harry S. Truman (4%) Lyndon B. Johnson (tie) (3%) George H. W. Bush (tie) (3%) Jimmy Carter (2%) Richard Nixon (tie) (1%) Gerald Ford (tie) (1%) George W. Bush (tie) (1%) Worst president since World War II: Barack Obama (33%) George W. Bush (28%) Richard Nixon (13%) Jimmy Carter (8%) Lyndon B. Johnson (tie) (3%) Ronald Reagan (tie) (3%) Bill Clinton (tie) (3%) Gerald Ford (tie) (2%) George H. W. Bush (tie) (2%) Dwight Eisenhower (1%) Harry S. Truman (tie) (<1%) John F. Kennedy (tie) (<1%) 2017 Quinnipiac poll Two and a half years later, a Quinnipiac University poll taken January 20–25, 2017, asked 1,190 American voters who they believed were the best and worst presidents since World War II.[59] Best president since World War II: Ronald Reagan (30%) Barack Obama (29%) John F. Kennedy (12%) Bill Clinton (9%) Dwight Eisenhower (tie) (3%) George W. Bush (tie) (3%) Harry S. Truman (tie) (2%) Lyndon B. Johnson (tie) (2%) Jimmy Carter (tie) (2%) George H. W. Bush (tie) (2%) Richard Nixon (tie) (<1%) Gerald R. Ford (tie) (<1%) Worst president since World War II: Richard Nixon (24%) Barack Obama (23%) George W. Bush (22%) Jimmy Carter (10%) Ronald Reagan (5%) Bill Clinton (4%) Lyndon B. Johnson (3%) George H. W. Bush (2%) Gerald R. Ford (1%) Harry S. Truman (tie) (<1%) Dwight Eisenhower (tie) (<1%) John F. Kennedy (tie) (<1%) 2017 Morning Consult poll Including President Donald Trump for the first time, a Morning Consult poll taken February 9–10, 2017, asked 1,791 American registered voters who they believed were the best and worst presidents since World War II.[60][61] Best president since World War II: Ronald Reagan (26%) Barack Obama (20%) John F. Kennedy (17%) Bill Clinton (9%) Donald Trump (6%) George W. Bush (tie) (2%) Harry S. Truman (tie) (2%) Jimmy Carter (tie) (2%) George H. W. Bush (tie) (2%) Richard Nixon (tie) (1%) Lyndon B. Johnson (tie) (1%) Gerald R. Ford (<1%) Worst president since World War II: Donald Trump (26%) Barack Obama (25%) Richard Nixon (13%) George W. Bush (7%) Bill Clinton (6%) Jimmy Carter (5%) George H. W. Bush (3%) Lyndon B. Johnson (2%) Ronald Reagan (tie) (1%) Gerald R. Ford (tie) (1%) Dwight D. Eisenhower (tie) (1%) Harry S. Truman (tie) (1%) John F. Kennedy (<1%) 2018 Quinnipiac poll A Quinnipiac University poll taken March 3–5, 2018, asked 1,122 American voters who they believed were the best and worst presidents since World War II.[62] Best president since World War II: Ronald Reagan (28%) Barack Obama (24%) John F. Kennedy (tie) (10%) Bill Clinton (tie) (10%) Donald Trump (7%) Dwight Eisenhower (4%) Harry S. Truman (tie) (3%) Jimmy Carter (tie) (3%) Lyndon B. Johnson (2%) George H. W. Bush (tie) (1%) Richard Nixon (tie) (1%) George W. Bush (tie) (1%) Gerald R. Ford (<1%) Worst president since World War II: Donald Trump (41%) Barack Obama (21%) Richard Nixon (10%) Jimmy Carter (8%) George W. Bush (6%) Bill Clinton (4%) Lyndon B. Johnson (tie) (2%) Ronald Reagan (tie) (2%) Gerald R. Ford (1%) Harry S. Truman (tie) (<1%) Dwight Eisenhower (tie) (<1%) John F. Kennedy (tie) (<1%) George H. W. Bush (tie) (<1%) 2021 Gallup poll A Gallup poll taken January 4–15, 2021, asked 1,023 American adults the following question: "How do you think each of the following presidents will go down in history—as an outstanding president, above average, average, below average, or poor?"[63] Gallup poll 2021 President Outstanding Above average Average Below average Poor Weighted average[57] John F. Kennedy 23% 47% 25% 2% 1% 3.83 Richard Nixon 4% 7% 26% 29% 30% 2.14 Jimmy Carter 6% 21% 43% 14% 10% 2.81 Ronald Reagan 17% 35% 30% 10% 6% 3.41 George H. W. Bush 7% 21% 53% 11% 6% 3.06 Bill Clinton 10% 26% 37% 16% 11% 3.08 George W. Bush 6% 18% 49% 16% 10% 2.91 Barack Obama 21% 35% 22% 11% 12% 3.45 Donald Trump 9% 20% 10% 14% 47% 2.30 2024 Gallup poll A Gallup poll taken December 2–18, 2024, asked the following question: "How do you think each of the following presidents will go down in history—as an outstanding president, above average, average, below average, or poor?"[64] Gallup poll 2024 President Outstanding Above average Average Below average Poor John F. Kennedy 22% 48% 24% 1% 1% Richard Nixon 4% 8% 28% 24% 30% Jimmy Carter 10% 22% 36% 11% 15% Ronald Reagan 22% 32% 27% 7% 9% George H. W. Bush 7% 21% 48% 13% 8% Bill Clinton 7% 27% 36% 15% 14% George W. Bush 5% 19% 42% 18% 15% Barack Obama 19% 29% 25% 11% 16% Donald Trump 17% 23% 16% 13% 31% Joe Biden 6% 13% 26% 17% 37% Memorability of the presidents 2014 Roediger and DeSoto Survey In November 2014, Henry L. Roediger III and K. Andrew DeSoto published a study in the journal Science asking research subjects to name as many presidents as possible.[65][66] They reported data from three generations as well as from an online survey conducted in 2014. The percentage of participants in the online survey sample who could name each president was the following: Barack Obama (100%) Bill Clinton (96%) George W. Bush or George H. W. Bush (95%) George Washington (94%) Abraham Lincoln (88%) John F. Kennedy (83%) Richard Nixon (82%) Jimmy Carter (79%) Thomas Jefferson (72%) Ronald Reagan (66%) Gerald Ford (62%) Franklin D. Roosevelt or Theodore Roosevelt (60%) John Adams or John Quincy Adams (56%) Dwight D. Eisenhower (54%) Harry S. Truman (50%) Andrew Jackson (47%) Herbert Hoover (42%) Andrew Johnson or Lyndon B. Johnson (41%) William Howard Taft (39%) James Madison (38%) Ulysses S. Grant (38%) James Monroe (30%) Woodrow Wilson (29%) Calvin Coolidge (22%) James A. Garfield (19%) James K. Polk (17%) Warren G. Harding (16%) William McKinley (15%) John Tyler (12%) James Buchanan (12%) Grover Cleveland (11%) William Henry Harrison or Benjamin Harrison (11%) Martin Van Buren (11%) Rutherford B. Hayes (10%) Zachary Taylor (10%) Millard Fillmore (8%) Franklin Pierce (7%) Chester A. Arthur (7%) 2021 Putnam Survey In July 2021, a survey was taken on the memorability of U.S. presidents by name and facial recognition.[67] The rate of memorability for the name recognition survey was: Bill Clinton (98%) Barack Obama (98%) George W. Bush (96%) Abraham Lincoln (95%) Ronald Reagan (94%) George Washington (93%) Richard Nixon (92%) George H.W. Bush (90%) John F. Kennedy (88%) Jimmy Carter (83%) Lyndon B. Johnson (82%) Thomas Jefferson (77%) William Howard Taft (77%) Teddy Roosevelt (75%) Dwight D. Eisenhower (74%) Harry S. Truman (73%) Andrew Jackson (65%) Franklin D. Roosevelt (59%) James Madison (55%) Grover Cleveland (53%) Benjamin Harrison (53%) Martin Van Buren (52%) Gerald Ford (52%) James A. Garfield (50%) Woodrow Wilson (50%) William Henry Harrison (48%) John Quincy Adams (48%) Rutherford B. Hayes (47%) Herbert Hoover (46%) John Adams (44%) James K. Polk (43%) Franklin Pierce (42%) Chester A. Arthur (42%) Ulysses S. Grant (37%) John Tyler (36%) William McKinley (35%) Millard Fillmore (31%) Warren G. Harding (31%) Zachary Taylor (28%) James Monroe (26%) Andrew Johnson (24%) Calvin Coolidge (21%) James Buchanan (18%) Reception Gerard Baker, US editor for The Times, writes, "the 42 American presidents fall into a well-established, bell-curve or normal distribution on a chart – a handful of outstanding ones, a handful of duds, and a lot of so-sos. I couldn't, in all honesty therefore, really say that number 13 on the list is that much better than number 30."[68] Political scientist Walter Dean Burnham described "dichotomous or schizoid profiles" of presidents, making some hard to classify in his opinion. Historian Alan Brinkley said "there are presidents who could be considered both failures and great or near great (for example, Wilson, Johnson, Nixon)". Historian and political scientist James MacGregor Burns observed of Nixon: "How can one evaluate such an idiosyncratic president, so brilliant and so morally lacking?"[69] David Herbert Donald, noted biographer of Abraham Lincoln, relates that when he met John F. Kennedy in 1961, Kennedy voiced his deep dissatisfaction and resentment with historians who had rated some of his predecessors. Kennedy remarked, "No one has a right to grade a president—even poor James Buchanan—who has not sat in his chair, examined the mail and information that came across his desk, and learned why he made his decisions."[70] Historian and political scientist Julian E. Zelizer has argued that traditional presidential rankings explain little concerning actual presidential history and that they are "weak mechanisms for evaluating what has taken place in the White House."[71] The broadly static nature of the rankings over multiple decades has also been called into question[who?], particularly given the frequent exposure of previously unknown material about American government.[72][failed verification][citation needed] The first British survey, published in 2011, places some small government advocates higher than recent US surveys have: Thomas Jefferson at 4, Ronald Reagan at 8, and Andrew Jackson at 9 (compare 7, 10 and 13 in C-SPAN 2009).[21] Survey takers In 2002, Ron Walters, former director of the University of Maryland's African American Leadership Institute, stated that ranking based on the presidents' ability to balance the interests of the majority and those of excluded groups was practical in respect to American debate on racial politics. Presidents have traditionally been ranked on personal qualities and their leadership ability to solve problems that move the nation in a positive direction. Walters stated that there was a qualitative difference between presidential evaluations from white and African-American intellectuals. He gives as an example of this difference a comparison between two contemporary studies, a 1996 New York Times poll by Arthur M. Schlesinger Jr., where 31 white historians and one black historian ranked presidents as "Great", "Near Great", "High Average", "Average", "Below Average", or "Failure", and a survey performed by professors Hanes Walton Jr. and Robert Smith and featured in their book American Politics and the African American Quest for Universal Freedom, where 44 African-American political scientists and historians ranked presidents as "White Supremacist", "Racist", "Racially Neutral", "Racially Ambivalent", or "Antiracist".[73] A 2012 analysis by Mark Zachary Taylor faulted presidential surveys with "partisan bias and subjective judgments", suggesting an algorithm to rank of the presidents based on objectively measurable economic statistics. His algorithm placed Franklin Roosevelt as the best president for the economy, followed by Harding, Hayes and McKinley tied for second. The worst-ranked presidents were Hoover and Van Buren, tied.[74] Alvin S. Felzenberg has criticized what he sees as a liberal bias in presidential rankings. In particular, he ranks Ronald Reagan in third place, substantially higher than averaged rankings. In reviewing his 2010 book, Michael Genovese says, "Felzenberg is upset—with some justification—at the liberal bias he sees as so prevalent in the ranking of U.S. presidents by historians and political scientists. To remedy this, he has provided a counter to the liberal bias with a conservative bias. In doing so, he commits all the sins of which he accuses liberals. This book is a mirror image of the work he finds so troubling....It is unscientific, impressionistic, and highly subjective."[75] See also 2. Clueless. All subjective nonsense. Sad you don't know facts from opinions. Real sad. 1 1
Harrisfan Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 4 hours ago, fredwiggy said: where 31 white historians and one black historian ranked presidents as "Great", "Near Great", "High Average", "Average", "Below Average", Like asking people what their favourite movies were 1 1 1
Harrisfan Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 4 hours ago, fredwiggy said: Quinnipiac University poll taken March 3–5, 2018 Yeah they got the 2016 and 2024 elections wrong. This is your idea of facts 1 1 2
Harrisfan Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 17 minutes ago, Cryingdick said: People get idiotic when they start posting about the stock market and using charts. Tesla is doing terrible. It is only up 21,153.13% since it was listed. As far as Buffett isn't he one of the evil billionaires that steals the candy right out of your babies mouth? Libs sure are scitzo when they talk money. They do that with bitcoin. 1
rough diamond Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 29 minutes ago, Harrisfan said: Yeah they got the 2016 and 2024 elections wrong. This is your idea of facts Polls are not facts. Especially according to your posts on other threads today. If you have a mind please make it up. 1 2
Harrisfan Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 4 minutes ago, rough diamond said: Polls are not facts. Especially according to your posts on other threads today. If you have a mind please make it up. Why do you stalk me? I rarely respond because you never have anything on topic to say. You sound like a kid. 1 2
Popular Post still kicking Posted 12 hours ago Popular Post Posted 12 hours ago 29 minutes ago, Harrisfan said: Why do you stalk me? I rarely respond because you never have anything on topic to say. You sound like a kid. The only one who sounds like a kid is you 1 3
Harrisfan Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 2 minutes ago, still kicking said: The only one who sounds like a kid is you You sit in a cheap flat and can barely put a sentence together. 1 1 1
Harrisfan Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago A few of Trump's achievements America gained 7 million new jobs – more than three times government experts’ projections. Middle-Class family income increased nearly $6,000 – more than five times the gains during the entire previous administration. The unemployment rate reached 3.5 percent, the lowest in a half-century. Achieved 40 months in a row with more job openings than job-hirings. More Americans reported being employed than ever before – nearly 160 million. Jobless claims hit a nearly 50-year low. The number of people claiming unemployment insurance as a share of the population hit its lowest on record. Incomes rose in every single metro area in the United States for the first time in nearly 3 decades. Delivered a future of greater promise and opportunity for citizens of all backgrounds. Unemployment rates for African Americans, Hispanic Americans, Asian Americans, Native Americans, veterans, individuals with disabilities, and those without a high school diploma all reached record lows. Unemployment for women hit its lowest rate in nearly 70 years. Lifted nearly 7 million people off of food stamps. Poverty rates for African Americans and Hispanic Americans reached record lows. Income inequality fell for two straight years, and by the largest amount in over a decade. The bottom 50 percent of American households saw a 40 percent increase in net worth. Wages rose fastest for low-income and blue collar workers – a 16 percent pay increase. African American homeownership increased from 41.7 percent to 46.4 percent. 1 2
Popular Post still kicking Posted 12 hours ago Popular Post Posted 12 hours ago 7 minutes ago, Harrisfan said: You sit in a cheap flat and can barely put a sentence together. And you sit in a 5-foot room with a fan in Issan you can't afford to run 1 2 2
Harrisfan Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 4 minutes ago, still kicking said: And you sit in a 5-foot room with a fan in Issan you can't afford to run I sit in hotels laughing at all the lefties whingeing about Trump. Man wants to stop a war and cut waste and sad old men abuse him non stop. They drink poison and expect him to suffer. It is funny. 2 1 1
Popular Post still kicking Posted 11 hours ago Popular Post Posted 11 hours ago 47 minutes ago, Harrisfan said: I sit in hotels laughing at all the lefties whingeing about Trump. Man wants to stop a war and cut waste and sad old men abuse him non stop. They drink poison and expect him to suffer. It is funny. We dron't drink Cool Aid drongo 2 1
Harrisfan Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 3 minutes ago, still kicking said: We dron't drink Cool Aid drongo Who drinks cool aid? Must be your budget in your cheap flat. 2 1 1
still kicking Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 9 minutes ago, Harrisfan said: Who drinks cool aid? Must be your budget in your cheap flat. Ask your maid Donald
Harrisfan Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 4 minutes ago, still kicking said: Ask your maid Donald Another sad old man who talks like a kid. 1 1 1 1
Popular Post Patong2021 Posted 10 hours ago Popular Post Posted 10 hours ago On 3/3/2025 at 11:28 PM, SunnyinBangrak said: Mar A Lago is bankrupt? Bedminster golf club? Trump tower? All bankrupt, or more lies from irrational haters, you be the judge. Trump has made 7 individual bankruptcy filings : Trump Taj Mahal in 1991 Trump Plaza Hotel (New Jersey) in 1992 Plaza Hotel (New York) in 1992 Trump Castle Hotel and Casino 1992 Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts in 2004 (his largest at $1.8 billion) 2X -Trump Entertainment Resorts Inc. (technically 4 bankruptcies in total with some as part as individual entity bankruptcies (1991, 2004, 2009, 2014) OtherTrump Business Failures Trump Mortgage (announced in 2006 – closed in 2007) Trump Steaks (2007 – 2009) Trump Vodka (2006 – 2011) Trump: The Board Game (1989, failed to revive in 2005) Trump Ice (bottled water -2010) GoTrump.com web search engine (2010-2011) New Jersey Generals Football Team (1983-1985) Trump Airlines (1989-1992) Trump Tower Trump (2007) Failed condo Trump University (2005-2011) 1 1 2 1
Popular Post Harrisfan Posted 10 hours ago Popular Post Posted 10 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Patong2021 said: Trump has made 7 individual bankruptcy filings : Trump Taj Mahal in 1991 Trump Plaza Hotel (New Jersey) in 1992 Plaza Hotel (New York) in 1992 Trump Castle Hotel and Casino 1992 Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts in 2004 (his largest at $1.8 billion) 2X -Trump Entertainment Resorts Inc. (technically 4 bankruptcies in total with some as part as individual entity bankruptcies (1991, 2004, 2009, 2014) OtherTrump Business Failures Trump Mortgage (announced in 2006 – closed in 2007) Trump Steaks (2007 – 2009) Trump Vodka (2006 – 2011) Trump: The Board Game (1989, failed to revive in 2005) Trump Ice (bottled water -2010) GoTrump.com web search engine (2010-2011) New Jersey Generals Football Team (1983-1985) Trump Airlines (1989-1992) Trump Tower Trump (2007) Failed condo Trump University (2005-2011) No he has not. 3
still kicking Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 48 minutes ago, Harrisfan said: Another sad old man who talks like a kid. I don't want my dog to be sick as you 1 1
Harrisfan Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 2 minutes ago, still kicking said: I don't want my dog to be sick as you Hopefully not as sick as you. What a sad retirement. $240 crap flat talking about Kool Aid. 1 1 1
Popular Post Patong2021 Posted 9 hours ago Popular Post Posted 9 hours ago 8 minutes ago, Harrisfan said: No he has not. If you are unable to deal with documented facts, don't bother us. You are like a fly that won't go away. The bankruptcies are documented. The business failures are documented. 1 3
Popular Post Harrisfan Posted 9 hours ago Popular Post Posted 9 hours ago Just now, Patong2021 said: If you are unable to deal with documented facts, don't bother us. You are like a fly that won't go away. The bankruptcies are documented. The business failures are documented. You are talking about companies. 1 1 1
Harrisfan Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago He has marketed his name to many building projects and commercial products. 2
Popular Post Patong2021 Posted 9 hours ago Popular Post Posted 9 hours ago 3 hours ago, Cryingdick said: People get idiotic when they start posting about the stock market and using charts. Tesla is doing terrible. It is only up 21,153.13% since it was listed. As far as Buffett isn't he one of the evil billionaires that steals the candy right out of your babies mouth? Libs sure are scitzo when they talk money. Tesla stock is facing a nightmare that it's not waking up from Sales in a key market are trending down due to external factors. https://www.thestreet.com/automotive/tesla-stock-is-facing-a-nightmare-that-its-not-waking-up-from Tesla shares have dropped more than 30% over the past four weeks and have dropped from a high above $303 this week to as low as $261 during Tuesday's session Maybe Musk can give the company back to the originators. Tesla was incorporated in July 2003 by Martin Eberhard and Marc Tarpenning as Tesla Motors. Tesla owes its existence to the President Obama administration and a Democrat Congress. In June 2009, was given access to $465 million in loans from the United States Department of Energy. The funding, part of the $8 billion Advanced Technology Vehicles Manufacturing Loan Program, supported the engineering and production of the Model S sedan, as well as the development of commercial powertrain technology. Tesla repaid the loan in May 2013 This is the type of loan program Musk is attacking and calls wasteful. If it had not been for the loans there would be no Tesla. 2 2
Popular Post Patong2021 Posted 9 hours ago Popular Post Posted 9 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Harrisfan said: He has marketed his name to many building projects and commercial products. All business failures were owned and operated by Trump. The Trump Tampa building was originated and promoted by Trump. All business bankruptcies were Trump operations. 3 1
SunnyinBangrak Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 13 minutes ago, Harrisfan said: You are talking about companies. He's falsely claiming Trump filed as an individual for bankruptcy whenever one of his hundreds of ventures failed😅 Blind hatred and brainwashing makes people say some pretty wild and unhinged stuff. 1 1 1
Jim Blue Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago I think that James Madison was the best President ever cause he got his name on a dollar bill !
thaibeachlovers Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 13 hours ago, Harrisfan said: Why is Warren's opinion so important? He is a Democrat. He might have been born lucky and made a lot of money, but that doesn't mean he knows diddly about politics or the lives of ordinary people. If he decided to become president, how do you think he'd do- IMO worse than Harris. 1 1
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