https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/california-s-economy-overtakes-another-country-now-4th-biggest-in-world/vi-AA1DyiGb?ocid=socialshare&cvid=b3baf73bf9b0410785babdf9ebae5f11&ei=162

Which - given that California has 40M people and Japan 123M - is astonishing.

 

Japan still suffering the effects of 30 years of economic doldrums from which it does seem to be slowly emerging, though still struggling with aging population effects.

 

As for California one might conceive of a day when the Far West secedes from Trump's Middle America ...

2 minutes ago, mfd101 said:

Which - given that California has 40M people and Japan 123M - is astonishing.

 

Japan still suffering the effects of 30 years of economic doldrums from which it does seem to be slowly emerging, though still struggling with aging population effects.

 

As for California one might conceive of a day when the Far West secedes from Trump's Middle America ...

Or secede and join Canada along with Oregon and Washington state lol 😂 holy cow imagine that for a minute!there’s alot to consider no more federal taxes going to support failed red states healthcare and a woman’s autonomy over her own body…..a functioning government……lmao !!!the Canadians would be delighted to have a warm province to hang out! Lmao 🤣 anyway on a serious note we Californians and our state government must be doing something right!to bad we missed the boat on this last election we could have had those people in the White House…….instead we have trump and the clowns……sad tragic not only for us Americans but the rest of the world’s people.

1 hour ago, Tug said:

instead we have trump and the clowns……sad tragic not only for us Americans but the rest of the world’s people.

Yes, sad for Friends of Usofa - Oz & Japan & Taiwan & most of the Europeans.

Were are all the trump supporters gosh you would think they would be all over this….not!

It's because Japan is in decline. They may have 120 million people but 100 million of them are like 100 years old. California isn't going up so much as Japan is going down. Germany will probably been best to sink to that level.

21 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

It's because Japan is in decline. They may have 120 million people but 100 million of them are like 100 years old. California isn't going up so much as Japan is going down. Germany will probably been best to sink to that level.

Sadly, you may well be right. The golden age for 'Westerners' & their friends is over, everywhere. We need to get used to the rise of China and its bullying tactics - ruthless even by Usofan standards.

40 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

It's because Japan is in decline. They may have 120 million people but 100 million of them are like 100 years old. California isn't going up so much as Japan is going down. Germany will probably been best to sink to that level.

Perhaps so they are incredibly industrious people and I wish that great nation peace and prosperity.still it’s definitely a feather in Californias cap and Americas as well.

On 4/28/2025 at 12:29 AM, Tug said:

Or secede and join Canada

 

Ewww no thanks. You guys can keep California. We good. 

43 minutes ago, blaze master said:

 

Ewww no thanks. You guys can keep California. We good. 

How’s about that thar election!!hey at least we know were to put it delicately Americas biggest fan of an authoritarian dictator for American comes from ehh?

California: 

Highest taxes

Biggest deficit 

Most homeless 

Most illegal aliens

Highest crime

Worst schools

Highest energy prices

Best weather

 

How ‘bout tgat high-speed rail? 

 

 

7 minutes ago, mogandave said:

California: 

Highest taxes

Biggest deficit 

Most homeless 

Most illegal aliens

Highest crime

Worst schools

Highest energy prices

Best weather

 

How ‘bout tgat high-speed rail? 

 

 

I was raised in california. It is the most perfect part of earth, it was bound to be ruined by humans

 

 

discovered not long ago, and ruined very quickly

Gov. Gavin Newsom state’s gross domestic product surpassed Japan’s 4th biggest in the World

 

That must be in spite of Newsom.  Imagine how much better it would be with an adult in charge.

 

Still in debt, and still can't balance the state budget.  With homeless citizens living and crapping on the streets.  Sooner or later you run out of other peoples money, as the big earners, and companies say bye bye California 

 

CA debt is more than many countries yearly budget 

 

44 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Still in debt, and still can't balance the state budget.  With homeless citizens living and crapping on the streets.  Sooner or later you run out of other peoples money, as the big earners, and companies say bye bye California 

 

CA debt is more than many countries yearly budget 

 

 

As I recall, they were running a budget surplus before Newsom.

 

Meanwhile, the Cali Dems are pushing a bill that would decriminalize welfare fraud up to $25K.  Seems like their short memories don't remember what happened when they decriminalized shoplifting up to $950.  What could possibly go wrong?

 

Senate Bill 560.  In fairness, they're only decriminalizing welfare overpayments stemming from administrative errors or minor infractions.  Minor infractions like reporting more kids than they have or lying about whether they're living with a wage earner.  Sounds like they'll be seeing a lot more fraud and fibbery up to $24,999.

 

1 minute ago, impulse said:

 

As I recall, they were running a budget surplus before Newsom.

 

Meanwhile, the Dems are pushing a bill that would decriminalize welfare fraud up to $25K.  Seems like their short memories don't remember what happened when they decriminalized shoplifting up to $950.  What could possibly go wrong?

 

Senate Bill 560.  In fairness, they're only decriminalizing welfare overpayments stemming from administrative errors or minor infractions.  Minor infractions like reporting more kids than they have or lying about whether they're living with a wage earner.  Sounds like they'll be seeing a lot more fraud and fibbery up to $24,999.

 

Mind boggling.  

 

Can't wait till murder is a misdemeanor 

3 hours ago, hotsun said:

I was raised in california. It is the most perfect part of earth, it was bound to be ruined by humans

 

 

discovered not long ago, and ruined very quickly

I was raised in California as well. 

 

Ruined by leftists. 

3 hours ago, hotsun said:

I was raised in california. It is the most perfect part of earth, it was bound to be ruined by humans

 

 

discovered not long ago, and ruined very quickly

Me to all good here the place reeks of money , opportunity creativity but ya gots to work it ain’t free we are doing great property values holding great neighbors great roads all government services functioning great weather……and fourth largest economy on the planet not to shabby for a state.

3 hours ago, mogandave said:

California: 

Highest taxes

Biggest deficit 

Most homeless 

Most illegal aliens

Highest crime

Worst schools

Highest energy prices

Best weather

 

How ‘bout tgat high-speed rail? 

 

 

As a 50 year resident of CA just imagine if at least two of these negative things were resolved.  It was golden back in the late 1980's and most of the 1990's.  Both SF and LA survived two major earthquakes and thrived but now I have doubts. The state and the largest city both have large budget deficits.  LA Mayor Bass recently announced over 1600 city employees will be layed off and a hiring freeze will be implemented except for Fire and Police.  A city has to be in despersate situation to lay off employees.  In the past a job wtih LA was like a lifetime gig.

13 minutes ago, Tug said:

Me to all good here the place reeks of money , opportunity creativity but ya gots to work it ain’t free we are doing great property values holding great neighbors great roads all government services functioning great weather……and fourth largest economy on the planet not to shabby for a state.

Yeah, the rich in California are definitely getting richer.

On 4/28/2025 at 2:35 PM, Tug said:

Were are all the trump supporters gosh you would think they would be all over this….not!

Be all over what and why ? 

3 hours ago, Tug said:

Ya could have fooled me but shall we say aren’t.

 

How about this one Tug. We just had the federal election. I didn't vote for carney...or Pierre. 

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Gavin aint got no gas.

 

https://issuesinsights.com/2025/04/29/newsom-hits-the-gas/