51 minutes ago, jaywalker2 said:

Japanese wear masks when sick in order to display consideration to others. It lets others know that they are ill so they can take precautions if they choose and also indicates their concern for the health of their fellow citizens

 

Again, total <deleted> - went to Tokyo in Jan and around 70% of people were masked, regardless of where they were - even while outside walking alone. Of course, like the Thais they do that ridiculous thing where they walk into a crowded restaurant with their muzzles on, only to remove them when their food arrives. I tell this to people back home, and they all rightly think it's deranged, yet in Thailand, locals and expats alike think it's totally normal. It must be the most brainwashed, low-IQ society on earth, no wonder the stereotype that Westerners in Thailand are loser back home is so potent.

48 minutes ago, jaywalker2 said:

Japanese wear masks when sick in order to display consideration to others. It lets others know that they are ill so they can take precautions if they choose and also indicates their concern for the health of their fellow citizens

 

Japan is one of the most densely populated countries in the world, at 338 people per square kilometre.

 

The Japanese culture of politeness stems from that fact. Without it, they would be tearing each other to pieces.

6 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

When did I suggest wearing a mask at all times?

 

The obvious places to be wearing masks is where there is a high density of people. I don't wear a mask on a scooter or in my car.

 

It's not moral superiority. It's simply following the science, given I am in the most vulnerable age cohort.

And yes, it is moral supeiroty - you said on a previous post that you think people who don't wear masks are morons. The implication being that you think you're morally superior. This is why people utterly despise mask shaggers.

6 hours ago, Hummin said:

People are people, they feel better by using the masks.

 

Been going with grab a dusin times the last week, and as quick they see I'm foreigner, they put their masks on. 

 

Not the one we had yesterday afternoon, he just continued to pick his nose

Nothing says welcome to my country like putting a mask on every time a foreigner comes near. This is why I said Thailand has lost its charm. And this is why fewer foreigners are returning for tourism. No sane person wants to be in this environment.

8 minutes ago, MaskLover2025 said:

You just admitted that you care about what other people think about you, meaning you wear a mask as a display of performative morality. Thus, despite presenting yourself as this all-benevolent, all-compassionate, altruistic, morally superior Westerner, you are simply wearing it to soothe your own ego. God, what a <deleted>. No wonder so many people despise mask shaggers. And it is skin off your nose, since you restrict yourself from breathing freely.

 

Guilty as charged.  And not ashamed at all.  I also give up my seat on the BTS and MRT to little kids and old people.

 

Just now, MaskLover2025 said:

And yes, it is moral supeiroty - you said on a previous post that you think people who don't wear masks are morons. The implication being that you think you're morally superior. This is why people utterly despise mask shaggers.

Moral and moronic are different adjectives.

 

I don't care if you choose not to wear a mask to avoid infection, your choice.

 

However, if you suspect you are infected, and refuse to wear a mask, IMO you are a selfish turd.

Just now, impulse said:

 

Guilty as charged.  And not ashamed at all.  I also give up my seat on the BTS and MRT to little kids and old people.

 

So do I, I have always done that my entire life. I have even volunteered at homeless shelters on Christmas Day. Unbelievable, but being a morally decent person can be measured by more than performatively wearing some nonsensical surgical mask over your mouth to appease a few spineless hypochondriacs. Masks are not a proxy for morality. 

4 minutes ago, MaskLover2025 said:

Nothing says welcome to my country like putting a mask on every time a foreigner comes near. This is why I said Thailand has lost its charm. And this is why fewer foreigners are returning for tourism. No sane person wants to be in this environment.

Sane people adapt themselves to the norms of the society they live in. Irrational people think the world should behave as they do.

1 minute ago, Lacessit said:

Sane people adapt themselves to the norms of the society they live in. Irrational people think the world should behave as they do.

Sane people adapt themselves to the extent where they still retain some semblance of rational, independent thought. Spineless cowards like you adapat to the point where they only care about having their own ego validated because they are so devoid of love and attention outside of certain cultures. 

Just now, MaskLover2025 said:

Sane people adapt themselves to the extent where they still retain some semblance of rational, independent thought. Spineless cowards like you adapat to the point where they only care about having their own ego validated because they are so devoid of love and attention outside of certain cultures. 

Easy to call someone a spineless coward from behind the anonymity of a keyboard.

 

I would suggest attendance at anger management groups, you seem to have a problem with being contradicted.

 

Get a spell checker, it's another problem you have.

16 minutes ago, MaskLover2025 said:

Nothing says welcome to my country like putting a mask on every time a foreigner comes near. This is why I said Thailand has lost its charm. And this is why fewer foreigners are returning for tourism. No sane person wants to be in this environment.

I do not think many of the tourists really botter to be true. 

 

Other Asians tends to do the same.

 

I find it unhygienic, especially putting the mask on and off at the breakfest, containment everything everybody else touches as well. 

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39 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Japan is one of the most densely populated countries in the world, at 338 people per square kilometre.

 

The Japanese culture of politeness stems from that fact. Without it, they would be tearing each other to pieces.

The Japanese culture of good manners stretches back almost 2,000 years. Wa or social harmony has always been an integral aspect of Japanese society.

51 minutes ago, MaskLover2025 said:

Again, total <deleted> - went to Tokyo in Jan and around 70% of people were masked, regardless of where they were - even while outside walking alone. Of course, like the Thais they do that ridiculous thing where they walk into a crowded restaurant with their muzzles on, only to remove them when their food arrives. I tell this to people back home, and they all rightly think it's deranged, yet in Thailand, locals and expats alike think it's totally normal. It must be the most brainwashed, low-IQ society on earth, no wonder the stereotype that Westerners in Thailand are loser back home is so potent.

I was speaking about masking before Covid. It was common for Japanese who had a cold or the flu to wear a mask in an effort to avoid spreading their illness  to others, although admittedly the tradition is adhered to less by the younger generation.  The Japanese government mandated masks during Covid but the Japanese didn't complain, only foreigners. They were perfectly willing to cooperate instead of engaging in futile and hysterical arguments, which is probably why they did so much better during Covid than Western countries.

Don't follow me around, you FREAK. 

On 5/19/2025 at 10:10 PM, MaskLover2025 said:

That is simply not true - nowhere near that many people wore masks before covid. I went to Thailand before 2020 and hardly saw anyone in masks, nowhere near 30% - there are tonnes of videos online that back this up. You are either lying to cope with the fact you live among brainwashed covid cowards who don't have the guts to live a normal life again, or are utterly deluded.

Why does mask wearing get some folks panties in such a wad, what does it matter to you?

 

West and East have different cultural outlooks, the West, especially the USA, give priority to the rights of the individual, in the East the rights of the individual are less important than the good of the family and the local community. Singapore for example would not function if everyone was allowed to do exactly what they wanted in the American way, it would be a total hellscape.

 

Mask wearing was readily adopted in Asia because people were willing to give up personal freedom for the benefit of the community. It's nothing to do with cowardice, that's purely your perception as, I'm guessing, an American.

 

(Whether you accept masks were a benefit is a separate discussion.)

No it is not. Please do your research before using the forum to spread lies and disinformation.  Covid killed over 90 thousand people and continues to harm people to this day.

About 4 weeks ago I noticed people coughing and sneezing a lot. So I started wearing a mask as protection against airborne infections such as colds, flu and possibly covid.  Then about a week later the warnings about Covid started.

I go to hospital frequently because I have cancer. ALL the nurses and doctors wear masks to prevent infection. I will take their model not some naysayers on the net. Respectively yours.

7 minutes ago, Stocky said:

Why does mask wearing get some folks panties in such a wad, what does it matter to you?

 

West and East have different cultural outlooks, the West, especially the USA, give priority to the rights of the individual, in the East the rights of the individual are less important than the good of the family and the local community. Singapore for example would not function if everyone was allowed to do exactly what they wanted in the American way, it would be a total hellscape.

 

Mask wearing was readily adopted in Asia because people were willing to give up personal freedom for the benefit of the community. It's nothing to do with cowardice, that's purely your perception as, I'm guessing, an American.

 

(Whether you accept masks were a benefit is a separate discussion.)

LOL "Mask wearing was readily adopted in Asia because people were willing to give up personal freedom for the benefit of the community." LOL

 

Personal freedom! Don't be ridiculous!

Being sick, in bed with tubes coming out of your orifices is "giving up your personal freedom."

Mask wearing is common in all major hospital to PREVENT AIRBORNE INFECTIONS. It's that simple. That's why surgeons wear them!

Why would wearing a mask impact on your " Personal freedom ". I respectfully suggest that you have been brainwashed.

42 minutes ago, Magictoad said:

Why would wearing a mask impact on your " Personal freedom ". I respectfully suggest that you have been brainwashed.

I was responding to the post by Masklover2025 who seems to think mask wearing is cowardice. Something I disagree with, what he perceives as cowardice, a loss of personal freedom was how it was seen in places like the USA, whereas here and elsewhere in Asia it wasn't considered a loss of personal freedom rather the right thing to do to reduce the spread of COVID for the benefit of society as a whole. No I haven't been brainwashed, I was perfectly happy to go masked during the pandemic, I didn't see it as cowardice, nor an imposition on my personal freedom.

26 minutes ago, Stocky said:

I was responding to the post by Masklover2025 who seems to think mask wearing is cowardice. Something I disagree with, what he perceives as cowardice, a loss of personal freedom was how it was seen in places like the USA, whereas here and elsewhere in Asia it wasn't considered a loss of personal freedom rather the right thing to do to reduce the spread of COVID for the benefit of society as a whole. No I haven't been brainwashed, I was perfectly happy to go masked during the pandemic, I didn't see it as cowardice, nor an imposition on my personal freedom.

They are for wimps - they create a miserable atmosphere, impede communication, and are bad for the environment. Visual and physical pollution. Normal people appreciate seeing human faces. Not hard to understand.

28 minutes ago, Stocky said:

I was responding to the post by Masklover2025 who seems to think mask wearing is cowardice. Something I disagree with, what he perceives as cowardice, a loss of personal freedom was how it was seen in places like the USA, whereas here and elsewhere in Asia it wasn't considered a loss of personal freedom rather the right thing to do to reduce the spread of COVID for the benefit of society as a whole. No I haven't been brainwashed, I was perfectly happy to go masked during the pandemic, I didn't see it as cowardice, nor an imposition on my personal freedom.

Not on about when it was mandated, I wore one when it was mandated. It's 2025 now though - does more harm than good. Move on.

23 minutes ago, MaskLover2025 said:

Not on about when it was mandated, I wore one when it was mandated. It's 2025 now though - does more harm than good. Move on.

Please explain how a mask does more harm than good.

42 minutes ago, MaskLover2025 said:

They are for wimps - they create a miserable atmosphere, impede communication, and are bad for the environment. Visual and physical pollution. Normal people appreciate seeing human faces. Not hard to understand.

I just don't see what your issue is, if people wish to mask that's their prerogative.

 

 

43 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Please explain how a mask does more harm than good.

Breathing Issues or Discomfort

Communication Barrier, particularly for those who have poor hearing 

Psychological and Social Concerns
Reduced oxygen intake
Diminished confidence and self-esteem due to mask dependency

There are so many other things, too. Not that I think covid is anything to worry about, but the reason people wear them is to protect themselves from it. Thus, it is hilarious that East Asia is currently experiencing a huge surge in cases despite being the only part of the world that has a high percentage of the population wearing masks.

 

24 minutes ago, Stocky said:

I just don't see what your issue is, if people wish to mask that's their prerogative.

Literally just explained why, and that's the only response you can generate. Like talking to a brick wall. They are creepy, weird, ugly, symbolic of medical tyranny, and usedas  a proxy for morality by aholes who thrive off taking the moral high ground over others in order to find meaning in their empty and worthless lives.

30 minutes ago, MaskLover2025 said:

 

 

Breathing Issues or Discomfort

Communication Barrier, particularly for those who have poor hearing 

Psychological and Social Concerns
Reduced oxygen intake
Diminished confidence and self-esteem due to mask dependency

There are so many other things, too. Not that I think covid is anything to worry about, but the reason people wear them is to protect themselves from it. Thus, it is hilarious that East Asia is currently experiencing a huge surge in cases despite being the only part of the world that has a high percentage of the population wearing masks.

 

It's nice you can post without the emotive abuse. Well done.

 

Mask-wearing in Asia has evolved in response to air pollution, which has been around a lot longer than COVID. Coronavirus is just icing on the cake.

 

I wear a mask when I consider the situation warrants it. I have not noticed it affects my self-esteem.

1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

It's nice you can post without the emotive abuse. Well done.

 

Mask-wearing in Asia has evolved in response to air pollution, which has been around a lot longer than COVID. Coronavirus is just icing on the cake.

 

I wear a mask when I consider the situation warrants it. I have not noticed it affects my self-esteem.

I have no issue with people who logically make use of masks when pm25 levels are high. Fair enough. My criticism is aimed more towards the people who wear them because they live in a constant state of panic and anxiety over covid. I particularly don't like it when restaurant staff wear them, it spoils the atmosphere and makes me feel like I am in a hospital. I think this is fair enough.

9 hours ago, MaskLover2025 said:

If you're wearing one because over half the people around you are, then no it's not out of fear - it's just pure cowardice underscored by a crippling inability to think independently of group norms, even when the group is beset by herd-like thinking. You can still be compassionate and think for yourself, the two are not mutually exclusive.

Are you able to see bacteria or viruses?  Of course not!  So wearing a decent mask when close to others seems a good idea to me.  You never know what nasty things they are breathing/coughing out...

 

Alternatively, don't wear a mask when in crowds, and don't complain if you get Covid/flu/polio (unlikely!) or Chlamydia pneumoniae STI....

2 hours ago, MaskLover2025 said:

I have no issue with people who logically make use of masks when pm25 levels are high. Fair enough. My criticism is aimed more towards the people who wear them because they live in a constant state of panic and anxiety over covid. I particularly don't like it when restaurant staff wear them, it spoils the atmosphere and makes me feel like I am in a hospital. I think this is fair enough.

You are looking at the situation with the wrong lens.

 

Any interaction YOU have with restaurant staff or checkout chicks is one on one.

 

OTOH, restaurant staff and checkout chicks interact with dozens or hundreds of customers day in, day out. Their risk profile is much higher than yours.

19 hours ago, impulse said:

 

I think it's more nuanced than that.  Taking myself as an example, before Covid, I never wore a mask.  I didn't even know where to buy one.  While being muzzled for about a year by law, I realized that they were beneficial in circumstances like dusty wind, cottonwood season, sucking diesel fumes, etc.  They were a PITA at most times and I was very happy when they rescinded the mandates.

 

Today, I have absolutely zero fear of Covid or flu or the creeping crud.  But I still wear a mask occasionally.  Partly because they've become ubiquitous.  If there's dust in the air, I pull one out.  If over half the people around me are wearing masks, I pull one out.  When I walk into a hospital (several times a month), I pull one out.  And it's not out of fear. 

 

Understand.   I personally have no problem with other people wearing masks for whatever reason.  Of course, I do miss seeing the Thai smile and prefer to talk to people without a mask.  And I should be free to state that.

 

My problem….simply put with zero nuance….I don’t like dishonest people and when people flat out lie about widespread mask use prior to Covid, I’m going to call them out as the lying pieces of **** that they are.

 

That’s all.